Y580 - Upgrade 1366x768 to 1920x1080 (B156HW01 V4) - Dual channel 40-pin cable?

Helping somebody with a laptop purchase. We were originally looking at the Dell XPS 15 because of its 1920x1080 B+RGLED display and its excellent audio quality. However, since the Dell XPS 15 is only available with the 1920x1080 display if bought refurbished, focus has been partially turned toward the Y580.

What she is looking for:
- Display that can accurately reproduce red (as well as other colors), for video editing and photography purposes.
- Particularly good audio quality.
- Backlit keyboard.
- Ideally a decent CPU for video editing in Sony Vegas. I am not sure how CPU taxing the specific stuff she does would be.

GPU is of relatively low concern, because she does not plan on playing GPU-intensive games. The substantial performance difference between the XPS 15's GT 525M and the Y580's GTX 660M is not of particularly high concern.

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One option would be to buy the Y580 in a configuration that already comes with the 1920x1080 display, and keep it how it is.
- Pros: Simple
- Cons: While it is more than likely a very good display, it will fall short of the color gamut of the AUO B156HW01 V4 and V7 displays.

Another option would be to buy the Y580 in a configuration that comes with the 1920x1080 display, then install the AUO B156HW01 V4 or V7.
- Pros: Likely to work, because a model that originally came with 1920x1080 will definitely come with a dual-channel LVDS cable.
- Cons: Additional cost of FHD display model + cost of AUO B156HW01 V4. Still unsure if the cable is 30-pin or 40-pin (30-pin 15.6" FHD displays exist).

The third option, which is most interesting, would be to buy the Y580 in a configuration that includes the stock 1366x768 display, then install the AUO B156HW01 V4 or V7.
- Pros: Cheapest option
- Cons: I do not know if the cable that comes with the 1366x768 display will support the AUO B156HW01 V4 or any other 15.6" 1920x1080 display, and I don't know where to purchase the proper cable if it doesn't.

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Like I said, the Y580 is only one of numerous options we are considering. Even if it isn't the final choice, information learned about display swaps may still be very useful to others.

(Other models considered: DV6t-7000 - reported not easily upgradable to B156HW01 V4, XPS 15 - must be bought refurbished, NP3260 / NP6165 - audio quality likely disappointing, NP9130 - heavy power brick + likely disappointing audio quality, Thinkpad T5x0/W5x0 - audio quality likely disappointing)

If anybody owns a Lenovo IdeaPad Y580, either a 1366x768 model or a 1920x1080 model, and would be willing to find out and share relevant information, it would be more than appreciated.

Relevant information would include:
- Model of LCD panel used for either the 1366x768 or 1920x1080, including extension tags [ex: LG LP156WF1 (TL)(C1), AUO B156HW02 V.0] - Shown on the back of the physical LCD.
- Information of LCD panel shown in HWInfo: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=hwinfo&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CGoQFjAA&url=http://www.hwinfo.com/&ei=VLjgT7D5A4bo0gGW9uyFDg&usg=AFQjCNHs_B7W1qCEOikVSc2zeEV8gg974g
- Model number or FRU of LCD cable (whether for 768p or 1080p)
- Thickness of LCD, in inches or cm (whether 768p or 1080p)
- Number of pins on cable, and whether it has any missing pins
- Width of cable connector, in inches or cm.
- Which side of the LCD the cable connects on. Specify whether relative to front or back.
- Picture of cable, of LCD back, or of both.
- Whether the 1920x1080 appears to be IPS, with very little color distortion, even in dark colors, when tilted back and forth vertically to extreme angles (relatively unlikely)
- If you have successfully swapped in a higher-resolution display to replace your 1366x768, or if the swap caused vertical lines and/or significant discoloration.

 

Very interested in this also. Anyone?

 

The y580 is new enough that it may be not many people have detailed info yet on the screen type / connectors etc. Posting to let y580 owners that I am also interested in this topic.

As far as screens in general I can make a recommendation for color matching as my wife is a graphic design and we've spent many hours color calibrating screens over the years (including a rgbled dell laptop and a different 95% color gamut glossy screen)

Generally speaking it's been a colossal pain to color match all of the laptop screens we've used over the years. I find laptop screens are too susceptible to lighting conditions, viewing angle, etc.

Without question in my mind the best way to go is to do an external monitor along with a color calibration tool like one of the spyder elites ($$$) that you can then use on both the laptop screen and the external screen anytime the laptop is moved to a new working location. Then one would do work not requiring precise colors on the laptop anywhere and connect to the LCD screen when needing precise color work.

(In my experience the color calibration is even more important -- and basically required -- with the 95% gamut screens.)

Good luck with whatever route you go!

Also even if you do go the external monitor route I'd still spring for the 1920x1080 screen.

As far as I am concerned if you don't then the laptop is useless for photo/design work unless you are connected to that external monitor. (way too frustrating with the lower resolutions)

 

Here is more information about the Y580 LCDs extracted from the Lenovo Y480/Y580 Hardware Maintenance Manual:

http://consumerdl.lenovo.com.cn/UserFiles/UserGuide/en/User%27s%20guides%20and%20manuals/Y480Y580/Lenovo%20Y480&Y580%20Hardware%20Maintenance%20Manual%20V1.0.pdf

 

Nothing she does is professional to the point of making an external monitor or professional calibration reasonable.

It's more of a preference for the colors of the 95% gamut display over a standard-gamut 1920x1080 display - partially because she specifically dislikes displays that have discolored reds, and if possible determining the cheapest way to get a Y580 with an AUO B156HW01 V4 or V7 in it.

If the cable that comes with the 1366x768-display models is compatible with the AUO B156HW01 V4/V7, it would actually be cheaper to buy a Y580 and install that display than it would be to buy one of the models that already includes a 1920x1080 display.

 

| was thinking about upgrading the display myself. Would this screen work and is it any good?

https://www.notebookscreensource.ca/boutique/ajouter_au_panier

 

interested in that too.
HP ENVY 15-3000 has ips display in it , wondering if that can be switched to y580. will try find some info when i get mine y580

 

according to this post in chinese by an unverified lenovo engineer, you can replace the bad screen in the y580 with the 1080p one, so the cable and ports should be fine for (most?) 1080p screens.

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Has anyone had success replacing the LCD screen in the Y580 yet?

 

is this still being looked into? I also am purhcasing the 720p, and would like to know if i would be able to swap it out for the 1080p model down the road....thanks!

 

i got the 720p because of the price but i would also know if it was possible to upgrade too.

 

Has anyone had any luck in getting the cable to put a FHD screen in the low res y580?

The IBM parts online page is here
https://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/PromotionDisplay?promoName=parts_r&catalogId=-840&storeId=260785&langId=-1

BUT, IBM part numbers do not match FRU numbers.
From the service manual the FRU number is 90200854 QIWY4 LCD Cable for Dual Y580
Does anyone have the part number yet?

Does someone want to pull apart their laptop and hope the part number is on a sticker and is stuck on the cable?
Does someone want to call IBM Retail Parts at 877 719 0841 and tell them you have model number 2099-4HU or any other FHD screen y580 number, and you need a replacement cable FRU 90200854 and you need the IBM parts number?

 

I decided to make a call to IBM Retail parts. The rep said they don't sell Ideapad parts, and gave me a number for a Ideapad in warranty service center. 877 453 6686 option 2. The warranty department is not what I wanted to talk to. I did it anyway, and I gave a rep the FRU number and asked to look up a part number. After a while on hold the lovely Xen and I were disconnected for some reason.

For now trying to get a cable is a push you into the system, lose you in the system sort of deal. I will try one more time later on, and call out of warranty repair.

I still kind of want a y580 if the cable pops up in a few days so i can replace the lcd, and paint the gloss off the screen bezel, and tolerate the hot thermals.

It looks like I will be buying the asus g55vw, but it doesn't have optimus... huge disappointment... i7 3610QM and no optimus? On the plus side no glossy stuff, runs cooler.

 

looks like the only trouble free way to upgrade to 1080p is to get it from the factory in the first place

 

According to this review: Lenovo IdeaPad Y580-20994BU Laptop Review - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

The LCD in the 1080p display is quite impressive with 91% of RGB colorspace being used as opposed to 60-80% in most TN LCD panels. I wouldn't bother changing it for only a slight improvement unless you have the 1366x768 display which I have read to be terrible.

 

I have that low resolution screen, and it is indeed terrible. I am waiting for the dual channel LVDS cable to show up on eBay, so I can upgrade to a better panel. Turns out actually that it may very well show up on eBay - currently there isn't any for sale, but if you search for the Y550/Y560/Y570 cables, they are all available.

 

it really sucks that you can't order the cable direct from factory.

i learned my lesson with my asus. there are no parts for sale anywhere.

 

Try eBay, there are people there selling overpriced (but usable) cables for a lot of models.

Anyway, certainly can't wait till this... Y580 cable pops up ...

 

for my asus, there are no dual chan cables anywhere. ebay was the first place i checked.


my y580 came with fhd, so i don't have to worry about that

 

The K53 doesn't have a FHD version, so there's no FHD cable made for that from the get go. My mobo has all 40 pins in the socket populated, I just need a cable (if you gave me yours, for example, I can just plug it in and use it).

 

is it possible to order parts directly from lenovo?

the spec sheet has the cable's part number

 

Tried that already, the CSR wouldn't know what a "dual channel low voltage differential signalling cable" is if it hit him in the face. He also refused to sell me parts.

I think my only bet is wait for cables to show up on eBay. As I said, cables for all previous generations are all up there, so chances are good!

 

I must say, that looks very promising. However, the actual notebook LVDS cables are very flat and compact, while the one they made is kind of ... big and bulky. Might fit into a regular computer system, but might not work with a laptop. I'd rather not chance it with $100...

 

Here are some photos of a y580 with AUO B156HW01 V4 and painted matte lcd bezel.
Do not put a AUO B156HW01 V4. in a y580 right now.
The screen brightness adujustment is not functional.
It has 2 settings, max and minimum.

There are several reports of this problem with swapping panels.
Brightness function problem (y580) - Lenovo Community

I am not sure why, I don't want to guess.
It is possible it is a driver issue, or a cable issue.
There are reports of the hd4000 intel driver in windows 8 only allowing the backlight to be off or on with one of the stock displays.
wherever that link is.
I tried AUO B156HW01 V4 and AUO B156HW01 V7 and both have 2 brightness settings.

If u swap for LCD probably try a LP156WF1(TL)(C1) in matte if you can find it.

low bright photo link --
high bright photo link --
compare photo link --

 

You found an lvds cable???


there is some sort of brightness tweak in the drivers folder on the D drive.
I have also attached them here.

maybe you can run all of them and see if there is any effect.

I hope there is no lcd whitelist.



Also, was the lcd bezel easy to remove? does it just snap off along with the rubber edge trim ?
you don't have to take the whole lid and screen off, right?

 

I got the full HD cable from lenovo with my full HD computer.
As far as I know there is no other way to get one right now.

The rubber trim on the bezel is part of the bezel. if you paint the bezel you will paint the rubber trim.
I painted the bezel and the rubber trim. You could probably mask it off if you want to keep the rubber feel.
I used painters tape to not paint the camera lens, light sensor, and a couple sewing pins to not cover up the other holes(mic receivers?)
The bezel is very easy to snap off. It is almost the same as the y570( you can find y570 bezel removal on youtube).
The only difference is there are L shaped hinge covers that are part of the bezel, so just tilt the screen further back for room.
You don't have to remove the LCD assembly from the computer

I haven't tried your attachment.
I tried the screen on the factory install hard drive, and on a fresh install ssd.
There are two registry fixes in the driver folder that improve functionality of the FN + screen brightness up and down.
Hitting down does not make the onscreen brightness 0... but my screens only still have 2 brightness levels, all the way down and all up.

It could be a whitelist problem, or it could be a driver problem, or it could be that lenovo took some of the ground cables off the lcd cable to use with the camera
and it happens that there is full functionality with the panel they ship it with, and not with others? just guesses... i have only taken the screen off

i previously had the two brightness registry "fixes"
i just was looking at the other "zpodd_disabled"
i just added it to check... it has to do with powering down the cd drive

all 3 installed on factory drive(i assume), and now on new install.
AUO B156HW01 V4 has limited brightness functionality.

I am keeping it this way.
Limited functionality matte.

If anyone has any luck in another fashion please post!

 

did you buy AUO for a specific reason?

another guy here got his LG replaced with the matte version LG, and i'm assuming it works properly.

 

AUO B156HW01 V4 is boss. It has amazing color and good brightness when it has full functionality.
I got hooked on them after I put a AUO B156HW01 V4 in a dell xps 15 l501x.

edit, here is a link
AnandTech - MYTHLOGIC Pollux 1400: Clevo's W150HR Tested

But for anyone else trying a swap, try a LP156WF1(TL)(C1) in matte if you can find it.
If anyone does, post an update!

 

AUO B156HW01 V4 with 95% NTSC Color Gamut is possibly the best matte screen on the market. I too was thinking of upgrading the standard glossy to this.

 

any guides to upgrade the screen? Thanks.

 

I am looking to make the same upgrade on a Y580.
How is the screen working for you now? Still no brightness adjustments?

Also, was the connector on the stock screen the same side of the AUO B156HW01 V4?
The V4's connector is on the left but I am worried the original LVDS cable is placed on the right.
Would you need a cable to move it from left to right?

 

But why is that dual channel cable essential?

Because I have an z580 and would like to upgrade to 1080p

would that be possible?

 

Hello.

I'm also looking into changing panels myself, and while I was searching for the brightness adjustment solution I found that someone offered this solution for a similar problem, so I thought I could share it:

"Navigate to Start -> Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Device Manager.
In the Device Manager window, look for “Monitors”, then right-click your monitor and select “Uninstall”. Be sure to also check the “Remove driver” option. Once removed, click the “Scan for hardware changes” icon. Doing so should bring the brightness settings back."

If you try it, could you please post back the results

 

Hi,

Yes, there is a lot of interest in upgrading from the crap glossy screen that the y580 comes with.
The screen is easy to get out. It is almost just like the Y570. You can find youtube videos with the y570 removal.
You don't have to take the computer apart. The only difference between removing the y580 screen and the y570 screen is that there are a few L shaped hinge covers molded into the y580... and you just have to tilt the screen back further. It is the easiest screen i've ever taken out, but i've only done two... you can still break and crack stuff if you try.

It has been a while since i replaced the stock screen with the AUO. Yes the y 580 with FULL 1920x1080 screen has a screen that has the same cable connector, and connector placement as the AUO screen discussed. If your y580 came with the right cable, the AUO screen fits in just the same.

I am still using my y580 with a matte AUO screen, and still have my glossy bezel painted textured matte black.
The AUO screen still has 2 brightness settings, MAX and MIN.
There are some software programs that can artificially try and dim the screen... but i didn't like them.

I gave up on trying to find a solution. Minimum brightness is ideal for me. I have only used max brightness once or twice in full sunlight.

The brightness incompatibility is caused by hardware on the laptop, the LCD inverter isn't compatible completely with the AUO screen...
I concluded this for some reason some time ago.


edit, yea i tried removing the screen driver, and also updating a few months ago, didn't help.

 

there is a link on this page to the data sheet on the AUO V4 screen, page 20 has a photo of the back.
B156HW01-V4 pdf - Color TFT-LCD - AUO - datasheet.co.kr

find a data sheet on the lcd panel your y580 has if you want to be positive.

I think all 1080p lcd panels have the same connector and placement.
If something doesn't match you probably have a lower res panel.

i like the AUO, but it isn't 100%. limited brightness function.

 

Thanks so much for the clarification!
I have since moved from getting the Y580 to instead getting the Y500.
The fact that Lenovo only gave us glossy options is a real shame as now we have to go to all this work just to replace it.

 

Ok, tnx

 

check this out:
HYDE Free Shipping EMS QIWY4 DC02001IO10 LVDS CABLE FOR LENOVO Y580 Y580N LVDS CABLE-in VGA Cables from Computer & Networking on Aliexpress.com

its LVDS cable for the Y580 but I'm not sure if the cable is single or dual channel. the cable splits into 2 one for screen and one for webcam.
can someone confirm this? price is high though

this will only prove that the cable exists. there are chinese websites that sell the cable for little as $10. but i need to know the distinction between the single and dual channel cables.

 

From the pictures i would say it's a single channel (u can see on the first picture that the black end of cable doesn't have all 40 pins, it's missing some pins on the right side) so it's probably a 29 pin single channel cable

Tnx for the find anyway

 

No IT IS NO HARDWARE INCOPATIBILITY!
Try shutting it down with the Button, then replace the AUO with the original, start up. You will now have also only 2 brightness settings!
Now restart with the windows restart function -> back to full brightness control.
Shut down again, replace screen for the AUO again, start up -> you now have full brightness control with the AOU, until you do a restart with the windows restart function, you CAN go into standby AND shut it down with the shut down function OR the button.

I could reproduce this over and over, IT IS NO HARDWARE PROBLEM, more a whitelist/software problem, as the brightness control is only gone if you go through the Bios startup, which only happens at a restart.

In other words, if you manage to NEVER do a restart, NEVER let the battery go empty, and NEVER get into a complete "fresh" startup with a bios boot, you will have brightness control forever. Sadly that means you won't be able to install any updates and programs that need a restart, which makes this solution more or less unusable for me

 

Hello!
Did anyone slove the brightness control problem?
Will app like this work instead of Windows brightness control? http://www.nelsonpires.com/software/dimmer/
Is it correct cable for 1080p screen? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free...cable-DC02001F210-100-tested/32239920691.html

Maybe anybody can edit BIOS displays whitelist?

EDIT I have v2.0x bios, will v8.0x change anythink?

 

The cable will work just fine. I have just upgraded my screen to matte full HD, using the same exact cable and it works just great.

Brightness is not working like some people in here described, but it has nothing to do with hardware incompability as the problem only seems to occur on Windows. It works just fine on various Linux distros!

 

Hey, I still have a y580 with the 1080p auo panel.
The brightness control issue still exists in windows....

There are only certain panels in the bios whitelist that will function in windows because any windows machine that uses an Intel display driver...like this optimus y580 laptop... relies on the use of the Intel display driver.
Windows Implemented a feature that allows EDID override on laptops to allow user input to tell the OS what panel you are using, even if it conflicts with the bios whitelist.
Unfortunately Intel has implemented a feature in the windows graphic drivers to disallow the use of EDID override in the windows OS.
Follow this thread to hope for a software solution.
https://communities.intel.com/thread/25904?start=0&tstart=0

It is rumored that a hardware solution for Windows OS exists, find the likely EDID of a compatible panel, and then write as little of that EDID data to your panel to have it still function, and pass the whitelist block.

The panel is fully functional in ubuntu.

 

I am not familiar with that app. But no, if the OS is not able to control the raw nit brightness of your panel.... the program can't. I've used one in the past... it was like ****ing up the contrast.

 

Hi guys.
I have Y580 (HD version) aswell, and I wish to try upgrade it to FHD AUO B156HW01 V7. But I sceared of problem with brightness control.
I found this thread with unlocked bios for Y580, and seems so whitelist removed, does it can help with brightness control?
http://forum.techinferno.com/lenovo-ibm/2260-lenovo-y580-y480-unlocked-bios-versions.html

 

Hey, here is the file to get my file to get my AUO B156HW01 V4 brightness controls to work in windows 7.
AUO Orig.bin is the edid original to the AUO. LG Orig.bin is the edid original to the LG 1080p that shipped with the y580. hybrid.bin is the AUO Orig.bin with modified manufacturer and model number to match the LG Orig.bin. If you have the AUO B156HW01 V4, with the same bin file as my original, it seems you can overwrite the edid data on the monitor with hybrid.bin and get windows 7 brightness functionality. I am just uploading the bins here, i will try and link some guides in a bit...

 

To start you need ubuntu live on usb stick. Then you need to download some programs, so you need to do this to software and updates. http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Software-Updates-620x350.jpg . Then you should install a program to dump your edid to use later or compare to mine, and find the i2c port your panel is on. follow these instructions. https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/edid-revisted/ .
pretty much use
sudo apt-get install read-edid
sudo get-edid > edidbackup.bin
make note of the i2c port the backup is made from, mine was port 2
now you have your backup, and know the port
then you follow these instructions that are a little vague, http://www.chalk-elec.com/?p=1905
you need to install git
sudo apt-get install git
then follow steps 1, 2, 3, 4. skip steps 5,6, you already did those.
then follow steps 7 and 8
my step 7 was port 2
and to get step 8 to work, make sure you navigate to write-edid.sh and check the file properties, and allow the script to be ran as a program.
and you need the path to navigate to where git cloned the folder of write-edid.sh
mine folder was... i stuck my new edid in there also, yours might still be called hybrid.bin
sudo /home/ubuntu/write-edid/write-edid.sh 2 /home/ubuntu/write-edid/edid.bin

then... you might have brightness levels in windows 7!

 

now all the y580 needs is a decent touchpad and cooling redesign

 

I used Deltacast e-edid editor to change the manufacturer and model number.
use the steps above to dump the AUO v7 edid bin file and edit manufacturer to match the lg bin or hybrid bin i posted above and it will probably work.
manufacturer id: LGD
product id: 01E9
and make sure the program recalculates the checksum

 

Did you used original LVDS cable from 720p or set new one?