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    Yoga 2 Pro Release Thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by ikjadoon, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. Don1

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    A few of you were going to crack this open today, did any of you succede and what did you find if you did?
     
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    If you hold it next to your ear you will hear some electrical buzz, but under normal use, can't really hear anything. the fan barely kicks on. As for the TouchPad/ClickPad -- it is by Synaptics, so it is a fairly good touchpad. Haven't had any issues with it so far. I actually like the inverse scrolling on the touchpad.
     
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    Finally we have someone at Lenovo looking at the panel color issues. Crossing my fingers that they can come up with a fix.
     
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    I've read all 51 pages of this thread. You all rock.

    I've been wanting the Yoga since the original last year, but held tight for a backlit keyboard and higher res screen. The Yoga 2 Pro delivered.

    My greatest concerns still are:
    - Lenovo opted for HD 4400 instead of 5000... Given it's pushing 3200x1800 I thought this may make for a poor experience but there don't seem to be any complaints about frame rates, I don't need it to game, just to look great in the UI.
    - wireless card, I was hoping for dual-band AC, but at least the 2.4 N they went with sounds decent.
    - glad to see keyboard is backlit, and I love accutype keys, but concerned about the reported amount of travel, most have indicated typing is not an issue
    - battery life, sounds like most people are getting 6 hrs from regular usage, would again prefer more but 6 is manageable. Broadwell can't come fast enough, but I've being waiting for Haswell long enough - which reminds me - how are the active sleep states on the YP2?
    - Finally, the colour reproduction issue. It's for personal use, so not a deal breaker. However, like many have expressed in here, displays are important, it's why we're all drooling over the resolution but if reading online is meh, that's significant. Will have to see in person.

    Thanks again for all if the input guys! It may not perform like a macbook, but it's got the form factor and the OS

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
     
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    Does anyone know if the Yoga can drive a 2560 X 1440 external monitor (I presume via its mini HDMI)
     
  8. jetnis

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    Hey Heisenberg, I'm not as familiar with changing registries, do you know how to invert the two finger scrolling? I can't seem to find the option to change it on the synaptics device setting page.
     
  9. takiat

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    It can. I am pushing 2560x1600 no prob. Also it's a micro hdmi
     
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    Great, thanks
     
  11. H.M. Caulfield

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    I don't think theres a setting for this in the software. Kinda silly since 2 finger tap is the best way to access right click. The closest setting they have in the software is 2 finger click.

    anywho, this worked for me:

    X220t: Two fingers tap right click is not working ... - Lenovo Community

    EDIT: looks like u beat me to it :)

    So far i love the Yoga's screen res and most everything else. yellow reproduction truly is morbid when testing in ms paint, but im just a computer science student so not a deal breaker there. i probably wouldnt have noticed it had i not read this thread, or did any side by sides.

    unfortunately i got a bad unit and it doesnt sleep when i close the lid, it instead goes into tablet mode. 2 hours on the phone with lenovo and a myriad of factory resets later it turns out ill have to replace this unit at bestbuy. I knew this before i called them, but was hoping they had an elegant solution nestled deep within their knowledge base... good thing bestbuy is easy when it comes to returns/replacements. very inconvenient, and i will say its a good thing im super patient.

    Any similar issues when closing the lid?
     
  12. heisenberg420

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    Not sure if it's possible (which is strange..) i didn't see any scrolling flags in the registry. Maybe try installing the generic synaptic drivers

    Drivers | Synaptics
     
  13. takiat

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    The fact people are saying it is fine in videos is incorrect. When watching a video on the yoga, then watching the same video on an external monitor there is still a difference in the yellows. It's just easier to spot on a static picture. If you run the same video simultaneously on both the yoga and the desktop you will see a difference. I get it that early adopters will try to validate their purchases by saying is a non factor but the truth is this needs to be fixed by Lenovo immediately. This should be unacceptable to all of us. It's not like it is off "just a bit". It's a whole different color. The color yellow has been completely removed from the yoga! Wow.... how that is acceptable to people is beyond me. I agree with you lenovo is over there laughing at us. But I will continue to fight with lenovo on the forums there until they fix this or admit they can't.
     
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    i'll be picking up the i7/8/256 model from my local BB this afternoon.

    i need to see this color issue for myself. i assume it'll be there on my machine, but at least it'll give me some time to test out the machine before having to return it to BB for a refund.

    i figure this way i can at least get comfortable with it before possibly buying it again in the future if Lenovo can fix the display issues.

    i see that Lenovo has finally responded to takiat's thread on the Lenovo forum - this will allow me to be another participant there with a different serial # for them to reference.

    the more people participating and working with Lenovo on this, the better the chances they actually do something about it.

    it's clear everyone on that forum will be returning their machines if this isn't fixed, so that's enough motivation for Lenovo.
     
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    There is no option in the menu for two finger tap, only two finger click(which does work)..that may be why. Unfortunately Synaptics isn't posting "their" app yet for 8.1.
     
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    Wow - thank you! Huge help to go into chrome flags and enable High DPI support. Chrome was barely usable before, now it is exactly what I want again

    I should add - I just went to chrome://flags/ and found a flag 'HiDPI Support Windows' - I selected enable from the drop down menu.
     
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    thanks for the link. hmmm I might try this out or wait to see if synaptics will update drivers soon. Well, if the yellow color issue turns out to be hardware based I am leaning towards returning the unit anyways.
     
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    Can anyone comment on how annoying the lenovo logo ON THE FRONT is? Was really disappointed to see this...

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
     
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    I just realized it says "click" instead of tap lol. Well the functionalitys there if its in the registry not sure why it's not an option in settings.
     
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    on the lid or on the screen?
     
  21. Don1

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    I used your info to change mine as I much prefer tap to click any day of the week. In fact it still amazes me that they even need to continue supporting click. There must be a reason but it escapes me.
     
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    So, anyone who ordered it from Lenovo.com - Has your shipping date changed or your order been updated?
     
  23. heisenberg420

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    Is it just me or does the screen still automatically adjust brightness even after switching auto brightness off in pc settings? Does that setting apply to desktop too?
     
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    I have noticed this as well. It doesn't seem to happen often and once it locks in it stays there. Seems to happen when switching to another application. Don't remember which. I haven't noticed it on my ext display.
     
  25. Don1

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    You switched adaptive brightness off in power settings? That should do it.
     
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    yea adaptive brightness is off in advanced power settings. I mainly notice it in desktop when opening a browser or explorer.
     
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    [Deleted, accidentally replied to wrong post...]
     
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    Hey -- thought I'd point out for you, since apparently you didn't see it.. someone posted the following a while back: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ide...yoga-2-pro-release-thread-33.html#post9409974 . As of a short while ago, that code was still working for me for all of the models -- like you, I wanted the orange i7 so was happy to find that, but the discount is decent enough I decided to go all the way with the 512gb/Win 8.1 Pro model and forego the orange (I mean, I don't really need orange, do I? ..right?). You'd have to forego the $50 BB student discount, of course, but otherwise you can get the orange i7 model at the same price as BB.

    Anyway, I registered to msg you about it since your posts (along w others here) have been informative, but appears private messaging isn't enabled, so just posting again instead (just checked, code is still working).. good luck, hope you get what you were looking for.
     
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    Question: The best buy version with I5 is $999; but has a different model number than the one on Lenovo site (and it is also about $100 cheaper); does anyone know if there is an actual difference in the machines? It sounds like from reviews in this thread that this machine has a nice keyboard as the samsung 9+ better battery life; but the screen has a problem with yellow and black ?
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    model on lenovo site is 1150 and code 59394177
    http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptop...00201&ef_id=UNdZMwAAWp8nKi8j:20131018194646:s

    and best buy:model 59386385
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ideapad...5402127&skuId=1817272&st=yoga pro 2&cp=1&lp=1
     
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    Different strokes.. :p I *hate* tap to select, as I find it way too easy to make accidental selections. I'd like to think that I'm not inelegant with my hands, but I don't want to feel like I need to handle my laptop interface like a Stradivarius -- or worse, for the most sensitive trackpads, a surgeon's scalpel. (Maybe I just need to experiment more with trackpad sensitivity settings. But as of now, I much prefer a clear physical distinction between moving a pointer location and executing an action with it.)
     
  31. Don1

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    Haha...well it seems the color issue thread on the Lenovo site is no longer there..should we take that as a sign of what their plans are in addressing this problem?
     
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    Know I want one of these but trying to decide what to buy. I just saw the i7/256 at Best Buy. They are, however, out of stock as are all Best Buy's in the area.

    What I really want is the orange but i7/512. BB doesn't have the orange at all and even the Lenovo web page doesn't offer the 512 with the orange at all. On the Lenovo web page the silver or orange i7/256 is $300 more than at BB which seems ridiculous to even pay that at all (assuming they are the same). The Lenovo page has the silver i7/512 at only $100 more than the 256 and that has Windows Pro so definitely worth it if buying from Lenovo. I would like to buy from Lenovo because I would prefer to be able to buy the in home service but I'm not inclined to spend $1499 for what I can get for $1199 at Best Buy (albeit I can get in orange at Lenovo). So my questions:

    1. If I buy an i7/256 at BB for $1199, can I later switch out the 256 SD for a 512 SD? Or is there some reason that I can't do this? I think 256 would be minimally acceptable but would prefer 512 eventually.

    2. Why is BB so much cheaper than what Lenovo is selling for online? Reason I'm asking is wondering if that is likely to change. Or is there some difference between what BB is charging $1199 for and what Lenovo is charging $1499 for?

    3. Is Lenovo likely in the near term to lower its prices for the i7/256 to the same as BB? If so, any idea when?

    4. On the other hand, is BB likely to raise its prices? I would buy one today for $1199 at BB but it isn't in stock. Is BB likely to raise prices when it gets stock in?

    5. And, as to that, any idea when BB is likely to have more stock?

    6. And, finally, any idea why Lenovo isn't offering the i7/512 in orange and any likelihood they will change that? And, if so, when?
     
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    It's still there. The URL of the thread changed (due to an edit?).
    Re: Yoga 2 Pro 13 Yellow Color Issues - Lenovo Community
     
  34. heisenberg420

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    You should be able to swap out the ssd for another sata.

    Not sure why best buy offers lower prices, they do the same with the Samsung ativs, i wouldn't expect them to raise their prices, that would surprise me.
     
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    You can buy the orange i7/8GB/256GB version from Lenovo using the code "SCOUTS" for $1200, same as the silver Best Buy version. Lenovo is just listing their models at MSRP and then discounting them with codes to make it look like an awesome deal. Common tactic. Best Buy's prices are probably the regular prices, so you don't have to worry about them raising it.

    AFAIK, the SSD is mSATA format so you should be able to replace it.
     
  36. Don1

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    BB has always been aggressive with "some" prices..this time it appears to be the Yoga and last time it was the Asus Black touch zenbook which they also had an exclusive on. They had touch when nobody else did and were selling it for less that others were selling the nontouch. Who know if they will raise their prices? BTW, won't orange clash with mustard yellow?
     
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    Oh, excellent. I was looking around in the chrome:// stuff, but didn't know about flags. That's pefrect.
     
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    A couple thoughts for which I have some input:

    1. Based on the hw maintenance manual ( http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/lenovo_yoga_2_pro_hmm.pdf -- see page 44), it would seem the drive should be replaceable.. though having said that, it also looks like rather a pain in the as it requires first removing not just the cover and battery (to be expected), but also the LCD unit and system board.

    Personally I was interested in eventually replacing the item on the page prior (43), the wifi card, with an AC dual band card, which requires the same initial steps.. someone wrote earlier that they would try that out shortly and post how it goes, which I'm looking forward to seeing.. sounds like their answer should be of interest to you too.

    2. See my post on the prior page -- as of last check, the code SCOUTS (from someone's earlier posting) should get you a 20% discount, and hence the BB price on the i7 orange model. Or a more comparable price on the 512 model. Might want to act fast on that one, given the description.

    6. For what it's worth (I was interested in this too), one (or maybe it was a couple) of the answers from support in the Q&A on the lenovo page was that, no, the current configurations are the only ones to be offered, so not great news for you there if true. Then again, it wouldn't be the first answer on that page that was wrong, so who knows. But doesn't sound very promising.

    For 3-5, no idea..
     
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    It's still there, but it may have been moved. Here's a link:
    Re: Yoga 2 Pro 13 Yellow Color Issues - Page 3 - Lenovo Community

    EDIT: my BAD for double-posting - stupid work connection. Don't even know how that happened...
     
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    I apologize if this has already been posted, but the Hardware Manual is up.

    It confirms most of what we already know.
    • Soldered RAM
    • Mini-PCIe Wireless card
    • Single mSata slot

    It also has a list of all the SSD's. The 512GB model is by Samsung. There are also Toshiba SSDs listed.

    I did notice some odd typos, such a 4 GB SSD listed on page 27 and what may or may not be a typo of a 1920x1080 display. (Also on page 27) - It's probably false because it lists a non-touchpanel option, which would be pointless on the Y2P.
     
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    Love my new Y2P. I haven't noticed the yellow color but thanks to this thread I'll probably notice the hell out of it now!

    My only real concern so far - has anyone else noticed their text become briefly fuzzy from time to time while in the desktop? At first I thought it was coincided by when the system automatically adjusted the brightness, but I can't actually test that out because turning off automatic brightness in PC settings doesn't seem to do anything.
     
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    That is the correct link. It looks like someone was able to re-create the yoga's yellow on their non yoga by adjusting the brightness down to like 35%. This is a good sign as it means there still could be a fix for this problem. If you have a yoga and want your yellow back I suggest going to the link above and posting that yours has the yellow problem too. If Lenovo actually sees how many people (100%) are having it then they would be compelled to fix it.
     
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    While using the yoga 2 today in a quiet room, I noticed that the fans were constantly on while in laptop mode, plugged in, and on high performance. The fan was still fairly quiet. This occurred while doing some web browsing, however when opening multiple tabs or programs the fan would sporadically rev up and then go back to running quietly. I barely noticed the fan turning on yesterday and the day before when I first purchased it.

    Has anyone noticed any changes to the fan spinning up? I know that most people have reported almost no problems with the fans.. but my y2p fans have been acting up today..
     
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    Well, if you haven't noticed it turn it over and tell us what date it was made.
     
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    I haven't heard my fan once since getting it..
     
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    just watched 3 different videos on three different monitors. Any time you have different monitors, you are going to see a difference. I honestly think that the video looks great on the Y2P. And I honestly don't see a huge difference. If I hadn't read this thread I would never have noticed. I'm not saying you're wrong, and I do acknowledge that there's a problem and that Lenovo should fix it. I think the laptop screen would be unusable for an artist, designer or photographer. But for the average user who is not actively looking for it, or not looking at wide swaths of pure yellow, it's not going to be a huge deal.
     
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    I'm hoping my fan will correct itself or I might have a lemon...
     
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    I opened up my Yoga 2 (11 Torx T5 screws, and you're in). Both the mSATA SSD and the wifi card are easily replaceable. No need to remove anything after popping off the bottom cover. See the first attached picture for reference.

    I'm returning mine, though. I really don't like the top row of keys especially. My Escape key, for example, has resistance when pressing it unless you push it directly head on. If you push it at the bottom of the key, it "catches" on the casing, for some reason. I also don't like the fact that the top of my display is dimmer than the rest of the display. It's really obvious on web pages when you have the laptop in portrait orientation.

    And the colors are MESSED up. I'd be surprised if Lenovo fixes it, and I'm not hanging around to find out.

    Here's a picture comparing my calibrated iMac display (behind) and "calibrated" Yoga 2 Pro (calibrated with i1 Display Pro)

    To address other questions:

    1.) The system does emit a very slight high-pitched whine. Very slight, though, and less noticeable than my Vaio Z2

    2.) There are two fans. The back right one tends to come on more often than the back left one. They tend to be a little sporadic, and can definitely spin up and down and up and down when using the system.

    3.) The screen is really gorgeous, but as mentioned earlier, has messed up colors, and is noticeably dimmer at the top.

    4.) Only one backlight level for the keyboard, which sucks (prefer the MacBook Pro/Air gradients). My "N" key has way more visible backlight bleeding out under it.

    5.) Speakers are EXCELLENT for a portable of this size.

    6.) If Lenovo could fix the quality control, this is a real bargain ($1199 at Best Buy for the i7, 256GB, 8GB RAM model), and really - the only time a touch screen makes sense is when you can use the darn computer as a tablet. Well done there, Lenovo.

    That said, mine's still going back.
     

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