Z60m w/xbrite/crystalview/brightview???

Am I wasting my time waiting for a Z60M with the glossy screens like the sony vaio's. I love the build quality and strength of the Z60M but can't stand the crappy screens they offer. I would buy a Z60M in a heartbeat if they offered some type of glossy screen technology. Any inside info on if and when they may offer this would be great. R

 

"Crappy" probably isn't the best word choice. IBM/Lenovo makes machines to fit certain needs, and those needs generally do not call for high-contrast (glossy) coatings. The Z60M, while it is more like other contemporary machines than other Lenovo models, is still made for those in the business world or whose needs correspond with those of a business user.

The short answer is that there is no reason to expect it any time soon. For a good build and a bright screen, you might look into Asus. I'm sure someone more experienced than myself will comment further on that. Do let us know what you end up with.

 

You are never going to see glossy screens in their current form on any business targeted laptop model. Glossy screens tend to be more harsh on the eyes, and reflect even the smallest of lights back at the user. This can present many problems if you are working in a car or outdoors in the field.

I have both types of screens, with my desktop having a sony Xbrite LCD, and my z60m having the non-gloss, and they are both equally nice in their own way.

If you really want to get a glossy screen and nothing else, you are going to be limiting yourself from some amazing machines.

 

Agreed. The screen on my Z60m is far from crappy. In fact, I'd have to say its right up there with some of the best, most comfortable I've used.

I too have a glossy (Asus z63a) and, while I really like it, I think it would be out of place in a business environment; something the Z60m is clearly tailored for.

 

If you really want glossy something like the Fujitsu n3530 would fit. It offers good build quality and an amazing glossy screen.

 

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The *Real* crappy screens are those Notebook with
glossy screens that reflect the background light like
crazy & you can See yourself on the screen like ghost....

LOL....

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Now, you're just talking about all glossy screens, and glossy screens certainly have their purposes, too. It's not a question of matte vs. glossy, but of matte vs. glossy for a given individual.

 

Z60m screens are actually very good. If you think that a screen's quality is measured by its glossiness, go stare at your reflection in the sink.

 

Just imagine yourself using your glossy-screen laptop outdoors, near a window while studying or sipping on your coffee, or in a well-light room with lightbulbs everywhere. I love the contrast on those screens, but they're more for show than they are practical. I absolutely LOVE my z60m screen. At first I thought the colors were rather faded, but it turns out I had to tweak the ATI settings a bit. 1680x1050 is so sexy. (I used to have a Dell 1600x1200, but it wasn't nearly as bright as this baby!)

 

you can purchase a Thinkpad and upgrade (ruin it in my opinion) by sending in your screen to screentek.com as was mentioned a week ago by notebookreview.com. these guys can replace it with a glossy screen for you.

 

How about "Z60m xbrite/crystalview/brightview/ MaxBright"? The MaxBright 1280 by 800 WXGA screen is brilliant, with bright colors and very good viewing angles, and a rated brightness of 300 nits. I'm going to go out on a limb, and say it's probably the best matte finish laptop screen ever. When it's plugged in, especially in dim light, it is necessary to reduce the brightness a notch or two.

I prefer matte screens, unless you need your computer to double as a shaving mirror. However, if glossy screen you must, the Sony screens appear to be the best at reducing reflections, because they have an anti-reflective process. Also keep in mind that some (maybe most?) of the glossy screens are made glossy simply by putting a coating over a matte screen. That does not sound like progress to me.

Maybe it depends on your normal usage. If you're going to watch DVDs most of the time, a glossy screen might be the ticket. But for word processing, spreadsheets, email, and surfing the web, you're going to get awfully tired of the shiny screen.

 

Can you describe the whites on the maxbright, miguelius? I'm looking for something with a pure white, like most of the Sony's have, as opposed to the dirty, greyish tint many have. Can you compare the maxbright to something like that (although obviously it is matte vs. glossy)?

 

Asics: While I cannot do a side-by-side with a Sony, I have checked the whites and they are a pure white, not greyish or cream. For example, on this website, which has contrasting greys and blues, the whiteness of the white is very apparent. Also, on Microsoft Paint, the purity of the white is very good. Color saturation also is excellent, e.g., the Thinkpad blue background screen is luscious.

When I plug it in, the bright white is especially brilliant. Indeed, I usually reduce brightness when it's plugged in, because it feels like you could almost get a suntan when it's at full brightness, especially in a room that is not brightly lit. I'd love to do a showdown with a Sony, pick your weapons--maybe dual copies of Matrix or King Kong DVDs at ten paces. Seriously, really a great screen.

 

You can install a nushield. Its a glassy screen protector. They make sizes custom for Thinkpads. I have one on my T43. While I wasn't hating the matte, I wanted a good screen protector (my screen was constantly getting smudged, dusty, and dirty, not to mention the mark from the eraser head). Its relatively easy to install (just have to open the bezel and be careful not to get dust under it). It adds glossiness to your screen and helps with color constrast (an optical illusion, but it works). The reflection isn't so bad that i'm bothered by it, but I'm not often in rooms with intense light. And if you decide you dont want the glossy, you can take it off. Its like $15. www.nushield.com