Z61t vs. T60p

Hi everybody, I was wondering if any of you could help me out in comparing the new Z61t notebooks (which are basically the same as the Z60, but with Core Duo processors) and the T60p series.

Is there a difference in performance between the T series notebooks with Core Duo processors, and the Z series with Core Duo processors? Do you prefer one or the other? Any comments, links to reviews, etc. comparing the two series would be very helpful.

 

I got myself a Z61t and I love it. Reasons for picking the z61t:
1. Widescreen
2. Titanium cover
3. More portable than T60
4. Firewire port
5. Memory card reader
6. Camera

Z61t has integrated Intel video card but it was enough for me to perform video editing without any hiccups. By the way, I installed 2 GB on my machine.

With T60 you have a choice of getting integrated or dedicated video card and you can have screen choice of 14 & 15 inch with IPS flexview in 15 inch.

 

You can get a higher resolution screen on the T60.

 

...and probably longer battery life using standard battery (6cell vs 4cell)

I would have liked Z61t more if it had dedicated GPU.

 

Thanks! What about performance-wise (speed, multi-tasking, etc.) : is there a noticeable difference? Is one better than the other?

 

Dimensions for z61t

Depth 9 in
Height 1.2 in
Weight 4.4 lbs
Width 13.1 in

Dimensions for t60p with a 14.1

Depth 10 in
Height 1.2 in
Weight 5.5 lbs
Width 12.2 in

You've got no dedicated graphics in the z61t. It's important to note that a 14.1 in non-widesceen can display as much vertically as a 15.4 inch widescreen. And as far as I can tell, widescreen is only usefor for spreadsheets, movie watching, gaming, and maybe picture/audio, editing. And well, if you're gaming or video editing, you're not getting the z61t. It won't give you any advantage browsing the web. So if you watch a lot of movies and do a lot of spread sheets--get the z61t. But the t60p is a better notebook. All signs point towards the necessity for increased video memory. A better comparison is the new z61p vs. t60p.

 

If the T60p has the flexview option, the screen will be much much nicer in terms of viewing angles, sharpness/resolution, how much you see, depth and trueness of color, etc.
But yes less portable.

Performance depends on the processor you pick, i believe all are available in both series.

 

Lets not pretend that widescreens are inferior since they are clearly the screen of the future. Also, its pretty obvious that you would not buy a Thinkpad with a GMA950 to use it as a hardcore gaming laptop. I dont see why somebody cant edit video though...since that is usually more dependant on processing power rather then on 3D rendering performance. Either way, the Z61t is a thin and mobile laptop and will work well for 99% of people buying it.

 

I have a z61t and I use it for personl as well as for work.
I switched my external monitor to a widescreen ( 19 inch Viewsonic). Lemme tell you, I'm not going back to the old non-widescreen. Browsing is great now that all websites are designed to work with wide screen format.

We have 2 eyes, with each eye viewing a different angle, a fused image from all the eyes is produced in the brain, providing a very wide-angle. So it comes natuarally !!!!

Ofcourse, it's personal preference.

 

Don't put words in my mouth. I clearly pointed out different, not inferior. Besides, this is a comparison. And T60p beats up the Z60t like I beat my girlfriend (it's okay, she likes it rough). The Z61t is already as outdated as it's integrated memory. Thus, it's crap. Period. When I walk to barnes and noble and see shelves filled with more wide books (dur, because you can get more text like that, durby dur dur). . . then try to tell me widescreen has won. However, it's likely I'll have killed myself by then. Go work on your paint by numbers or whatever it is you grumpkins do.

 

Non-widescreen is old school. In my opinion. Just like those old TVs with the old screen format. I can never go back.

Technology comes fast. Not easy for people to digest and adopt quickly. Glad I'm not one of those guys.

 

In my opinion you are wrong. Neither does T60p beats Z60/61t nor does Z60/61t beats T60p. Choice of laptop totally depends on personal usage. Yeah! If you talk to you games demanding high-end graphics card then T60 would be good choice. If you want something more portable then Z60/61t would be good choice that balances portability with performance. If you are prefer to be really portable then you have a choice of X60. And now you can’t say that T60 beats X60 too.

As I mentioned earlier I was looking for something portable with some light video editing and I have a camera that uses SD card. Now as far as my knowledge goes T60 neither offers firewire connection nor has any memory card reader. But that doesn’t mean that the Z60 beats up T60.

Now if you compare two products from different companies then you can say T60 beats this model or the other model beats T60. Bare in mind T60 and Z60/61 are two different types.

By the way, T60 comes with integrated (crap) video card too. As AGNI said it’s not easy to some people to cope with changes.

I am glad with my Z61t purchase. And yeah I love the titanium cover with the WINDOWS key (may be you don’t like the Windows key either but I just love it since I use keyboard shortcuts a lot…)

 

Don't lay on that can't grasp the technology BS...I've used both. For me, strictly a business user, I've found no benefit to having a widescreen. My WSXGA+ widescreen had lots of unused space, especially when browsing the net or when working on word documents. Show me a website that uses all of a WSXGA+ screen and it will likely be some amateur's myspace page. Most of the time, all that screen to the right, wasted space in my eyes. I'm 26, old school and proud--thus the affection for IBM.

For me, a 14.1 widescreen notebook renders the display too small vertically. While a 15.4 simpley renders a notbook large for my tastes. So that leaves SXGA 14 in and I'm okay with that.

 

To name some sites which work perfecty with widescreen.
Amazon.com
Google.com
buy.com

The old technology sites which I'm sure have a lot of old school managers/executives who are opposed to change ( like people who are afraid of wide-screen)

staples.com
compusa.com
bestbuy.com

They might sell the latest computer stuff but can't match the IT culture that amazon.com and google have mastered.
****, look at all those old school guys in this country carrying cellphones that look like a cordless phones. That's what I'm talking about.

 

I don't think widescreen or normal screen makes any difference really.
Widescreen AFAIK was made to fit 16/9 screen for movie watching.
Everything is kind of adapted to it.
Now certain applications can take advantage of widescree.
For example videoediting, where you need to put two screens next to
each other. That kind of implies long workspace.

 

Enlighten me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me google just centers the page--leaving lots of space on the left and right hand sides. And amazon.com displays perfectly in a 1024x768 window AND IT HAS TON'S OF VERTICAL INFORMATION. Widening the page on spreads out the information. Same way with buy.com. Ooooo. AAAAAHHHH. So, I've got these spinner hubcaps to sell ya, come on man. . .only $1500. They will like totally trick out your Geo Tracker.

 

Wow take it easy buddy. I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. Some of your comments are completely crazy though. Having integrated graphics does not equal crap. For example, if this was the case, then every overpriced Macbook that Apple is selling is also worthless crap...as is every other laptop that has integrated graphics...there is more to a laptop then the graphics card. Also what does books have to with laptops? Fight it all you want, widescreens are taking over...

 

Nope. All crap. You just don't seem to realize you're practically swimming in crap--Mac poops macbooks for the crappy so the gods can play on their macbook pros.

Size and portability have ruled books for ages and good books only come in 4:3 stupid.

 

haha thread over, im out

 

Just like good books come in 4:3, good laptops come in wide-screen. !!!

Again, I'm tired of seeing people who carry 3 lb cellphones in this country. The same people pay $2500 for a dell laptop on QVC.com !!. Technology is not everybody's cup of tea.

 

You're an idiot.

 

Widescreens are increasingly popular also because they are significantly cheaper for the manufacturers to build. And better for kids wanting to watch movies & porn on their puters.
In fact, the z60/61 is more profitable and cheaply built than the T60. The T60 is more robust and reliable. But the T60 of course suffers from a dearth of ports.