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    best FHD 1080p screen I can put in a w520?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by jedisurfer1, Aug 29, 2014.

  1. jedisurfer1

    jedisurfer1 Notebook Deity

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    can I put an elitebook 8570w screen in my Thinkpad w520. I adore my w520 except for the screen.
     
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    If you're looking to install a DreamColor panel, the answer is "no".
     
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    yes that was question, thx for the answer
     
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    Fancy name, DreamColor. What's so special about DreamColor?
     
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    You have to see it to believe it.

    By far the best laptop LCD there is. Take it from someone who has owned - let alone seen - pretty much any laptop panel worth mentioning.
     
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    To answer this in a more technical way, Dreamcolor is a brand-name from HP for their high-quality PVA screens for Elitebook and ZBook mobile workstations - their biggest advantage over "normal" 6-Bit IPS screen is that they are 10-Bit - meaning they cover a far greater color gammut (nearly AdobeRGB, IPS screen normaly top-out with sRGB). AUOs high-gammut FHD screen used in W510 - W530 comes close in terms of the color gammut, but not in terms of viewing angles, as it suffers from the same effects as any TN screen (color inverting), though much better than normal TN screens.

    Dreamcolor-screens are excellent, but they do come at a price - not only the price itself, but also no Optimus. Also for the current ZBooks, no resolution above 1920x1080 (which put them in a disadvantage compared to Dell or Lenovo, but some people may prefer the lower resolution anyway).
     
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    ^^^^^^

    DreamColor panels are actually IPS and not PVA...

     
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    Correct. and for us video editors and photo editors who output to physical media you have to see them to believe them. to be fully honest even the old version in the 8740W makes 98% of external monitors and EVERY laptop screen I have seen look like garbage including my Apple Cinema Displays, letalone an rMBP

    but yes, they can not be used with optimus ( but can with Enduro ) as Intel IGP's do not support 10 bit color and they are normally a very expensive screen upgrade ( $600 USD or more )
     
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    I concur.

    The biggest problem with DC panels is the same one that plagued the old IBM FlexViews a decade ago: they are addictive. It's very difficult to look at anything else once you've gotten the taste of these...

     
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    so very true, its like going back to 640x480 256 color VGA of 1988
     
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    DreamColor can't be as good as my X200T outdoor viewable 400 nits IPS matte screen.
     
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    Not as good as...since you can't use a stylus on it.

    Vastly superior in every other respect.

    Not that I'd want to lug a 8740W outside...so yeah, X200T wins there as well.
     
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    Well ... if we wanna go there for outdoor reading the Toughbook CF-19 with its transreflective 6000 nit screen............ always a different unit for a different need I find
     
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    True, but the 1080p model in the W520 is a wide-gamut, that LG IPS certainly is not and hasn't nary the original's colour space. So if the goal is to get a DC-ish upgrade ...

    Better specify first what's the exact dislike of the B156HW01 V4:
    Blacks, brightness, contrast or ... and perhaps it's simply the rather strong AG filter?
     
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    Nice! I am fairly sure I have a lower nit one. Hmmm... transplanting a 400 nit backlit screen on my current X200T could turn out to be a future Thinkpad endeavour :)
     
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    I'm reasonably certain that you'd have to swap the entire lid, not just the panel...

     
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    You're correct! Not sure why I typed screen vs lid... :eek:
     
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    6000 or 600 nits?
     
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    A NIT is a measurement of light in candelas per meter square (Cd/m2)

    and I know, most are in shock when they see screens that are in the thousands, and many of these screens are not even new. These panels suck in the sunlight to supplement the backlight as I have seen old models where the backlight has gotten burned out and you shine a small flashlight into a corner to light up the entire screen readable. It is somewhat magical especially when you can be in direct equatorial or high latitude sunlight and have 0 glare and just as readable as a dimly light room.


    Useless information of the day

     
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    lol I remember these laptops from the images lol.

    I saw the police using them in their patrol after I was arrested and put into the back. lol.
     
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    I am aware of this, it doesn't even cover sRGB for that matter, but some people prefer an IPS with worse colors to a TN with better ones.
     
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    That would be me...:hi2:

    Let's face it: for anything mission-critical when it comes to image quality if one absolutely *must* use a laptop in the first place, nothing short of a properly-calibrated DC panel will do. Dell's PremierColor is just a different brand name for the same thing, so yeah those will work just fine as well.

    For the rest of our mere mortals, it all comes down to one's preference, really. I prefer not to have colours shift every time I dare move my neck, but that's me.

    On the brightness issue...I don't think I can even imagine what 6000 nits look like. Such a screen could easily be used for torture. My work-issued CF-31 sports a 1100 nit panel and I've used it outside without resorting to pushing the brightness all the way up...
     
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    I agree, it depends on what you like more or could rather live with. Having both, IPS and good colors is great of course (FlexView ftw), but if I had to choose between one of them, I would usually choose IPS (or anything similar to it) over a wide color gamut. That being said, depending on the laptop, what I want to use it for and a few other factors, I might also settle with a good TN that offers great colors.

    For the sake of everyone though, I intend on trying out that LG IPS display. It would benefit many T510-T530 users. The pin arrangement checks out, the only problems I might be faced with are the physical ones, such as the connector position or the display itself. My original plan was to get a MSI GX60 (or similar), Clevo P150EM (or similar), or perhaps even Dell XPS 15 L502x. The latter uses the same FHD display as the W520 did, just in glossy. I wouldn't mind a really cheap T510 just for fiddling around either.