e220 vs x220i, head exploding

about a $140 usd difference between both configured.

E220- cheaper, I actually saw and liked the glossy display of the previous Edge since I thought it softened text and it seemed to be less reflective than most glossies (not sure how/if Infinity is different visually), larger palmrest area than X, very nice keyboard for a chicklet, new gen ULV cpus look decent enough for my oh-so demanding MS Word/Firefox/netflix demands. Um..moss black seems cool.

X220- IPS display (though honestly I just care if text looks good), traditional keyboard though I've never owned either so I presume I would get used to whichever, non-ULV cpu, more "think-paddy" (snob appeal). 9v battery looks to raise up the rear a bit which is nice. $140 or so more, which stretches my budget a bit.

Ultimately the decision rests with me, of course, but I'm neurotic and needy for opinions. Hope everyone is having a great launch day.

 

Well, X220 is tougher and it's going to take abuse better. It's also got a Thinklight.

 

for just $140 i'd go with the X220. if u carry it around a lot, and since its an ultraportable i assume you will, the more rugged the better. and IPS screen, well if the difference was like 200-300 bucks i'd probably not, but for $140 i'd go for it.

i originally was gonna buy the X120e, but i found this X201 for just about 150 more, and i figured what the heck. go for it. sure, as a secondary laptop i dont really need the power, but it was worth it due to the extra ruggedness and the fact that i can probably use it as a secondary notebook for longer before it starts running out of breath

 

Go for the x220i, E220 is not a real ThinkPad. It's worth the 140 more.

 

Text does look really good on an IPS display. Your eyes will appreciate the $140.

 

Ooh I forgot about the Thinklight. Thanks for pointing that out. I appreciate your guyses input. This would be my first Lenovo. X220i is looking good. (edit: accidentally said x201)

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x201 or x220?? x201 dosent have IPS

 

Well, of course, I was talking about X220 in reference to the OP's statement.

Previous generations of ThinkPad did have IPS. Some people, including me, do own them. (And, soon, an X220.)

 

was replying to the OP's post, not yours.

 

some users like the thinklight because they can use it to look at documents in the dark as well, but honestly, its useless. the screen (if you use max brightness) lights up the keyboard more and the thinklight is just distracting, because you can see the light on top of the screen, and also it lights up the areas beside the laptop more than it actually lights up the keyboard (the screen does a better job lighting the keyboard) plus you need to keep the screen at a certain angle for it to be any use whatsoever.

its really no comparison at all to backlit keyboards.

 

It may sound snobbish, but I really don't see that much attraction in either, other than "gee-whiz" factor. I can touch-type 75-80wpm, which drops to about 65-70wpm blindfolded, in the dark, half asleep, after a couple of beers. The quality of the keyboard affects my typing much more than whether there is a light source.

If you can touch-type, neither a ThinkLight or a backlit keyboard. should be all that necessary. Either way though, it's no contest --the X-220i is a better system, and I'd call that a modest increase in price for the extra quality you get.

 

The E220s also has Thinklight, but I still agree you should look at the x220.

It all depend on how you are going to treat the laptop. If you are a clumsy person like myself, I would get the x220. With the x220 it should take some abuse, so I can worry less about my laptop. If you don't need the laptop for two more month, you could get a discount on Memorial Day.

On the other hand, E220s is also good for its purpose. It is very thin and the battery could last up to 1000 charges. The build quality I assume would be also very good.

It all come to the trade-off of function vs style. Ultimately you will be happy with either laptop. If you want style and not make a statement the you came out of the 90s, get the E220s. If you want your laptop to take some abuse and an IPS screen (the best screen on the market), get the x220.

Just make sure that if you decide on getting the x220, get the IPS screen.

 

Sorry, his response was a actually a result of my 'x201' error, pre-edit. I was considering the X201i for a while until e/x220 launch, seeing that it wasn't much more.

 

Though the Thinklight is some what nice, for me, looking at the keyboard is a none starter. I just have to get the fingers on the right key to start, then a way I go without a light. Odd as that might sound, looking at a keyboard and typing is weird to me.

 

i can touch type, but, when you're in a dark room, and you're trying to key in your 8 digit hexadecimal password, you thank your lucky stars you have a backlit keyboard.

and i think its one of those things you never knew you needed, but when it goes away you notice it. before i got my precision i considered backlit keyboards gimmicky, but it really does make a difference even if you can touch type. i suppose your usage pattern is important too, i use my laptop in bed a lot, and because i work across 3 time zones i'm up pretty late and i try to work without disturbing the girlfriend so the lights are off, and i fly long haul (6-12 hour flights frequently) unfortunately in economy, so i try to be considerate and not turn on the reading light when people are sleeping so again another situation where i have to work in darkness.

 

I admit, I'm not a frequent flyer --that's one of thew few spots I could see a ThinkLight being useful.

I use my laptop a reasonable amount in the dark, on the couch, but I usually use pass-phrases rather than hexadecimal keys. The display provides enough light that I rarely (if ever) turn on the ThinkLight.

 

I kinda do come out of the 90s, heh. I'm fairly gentle with my laptops, but ruggedness is nice for piece of mind.

Regarding the keyboard illumination: I mostly touch-type, though I can see using it once in a blue moon in order to find a FN key or what not. I like backlit keyboards but rarely use a laptop in the dark. Basically this all comes down to display/keyboard/form factor/price, with price being more a consideration than an impediment. editin' typos

 

+1. X220 definitely worth the stretch. Particularly since it has an expresscard slot so can add desktop graphics (DIY ViDock) to make it a serious gaming box.

If styling of the X220 is an issue consider waiting for the imminent release of a 12" HP 2560P. If rumours are anything to go by it may have a hi-res LCD option.

 

or, if you dont need it urgently, i bet in a month or two we'll start to see X220's on the outlet for good prices, cancelled orders and the likes

 

Agree on all accounts

The x220 is a better buy, since it also has more battery life (comparing the e220s to the u260)