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    high speed gaming class ram for the x230t?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by person400000, Sep 1, 2012.

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    person400000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    If your goal is gaming, personally I think that trying to upgrade the RAM on a subnotebook with integrated graphics is a waste. RAM won't be your bottleneck.
     
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    i say gaming because its to-the-point "i want power"
    thinkpad x230t replaces my old desktop as my main computer
    even if ram is a bottleneck i wanna see if it can go to 7.9
    thank you for your reply
     
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    Well I guess if you want to spend money on it just to see if you can, you're welcome to. But it's a waste compared to things that actually *will* have a tangible impact on the performance of day-to-day tasks.
     
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    There's no point in buying expensive RAM, since, as ThinkRob said, it has no effect on gaming performance (integrated or dedicated GPU). So long as you have 4GB or higher, you're good (relatively speaking; you still only have an Intel GPU, which isn't much). Cheap, inexpensive 1333MHz RAM is good enough (I have three sticks of 4GB 1333MHz in my laptop, I have no issues). Even with the **slightly** marginal improvement with 1600MHz RAM, objectively anything higher than that (1866MHz, or faster) doesn't do anything whatsoever. RAM isn't your bottleneck: your Intel graphics are. You should save up and buy yourself a ViDock and a desktop GPU instead.

    However, to be honest, the X230t isn't a gaming machine, and you really shouldn't expect much from it unless all you're playing are older titles and Flash games.
     
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    yeah so does it exist?
    things such as?
    does a 1600mhz or anything higher exist in that size?
     
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    Not sure if 1866MHz+ exists in 204-pin form. At any rate, it won't make any objective difference in benchmarks, nor subjective difference in real-life.

    And things such as: 1) solid-state drive (which will have the most difference in daily tasks, though not-so-much in gaming since loading times aren't a major part of gaming), 2) GPU (either get a ViDock solution, or make your own, or sell your X230t and get an appropriate gaming laptop), 3) display (typically, if your GPU can handle higher resolutions, you should aim for that).

    There's nothing you can do to make the X230t game better than any other standard Intel-GPU-based laptop, other than to stick a desktop GPU in it via ViDock. Link

    **RAM will not make a difference in gaming, even if you had some sort of 4000Mhz RAM or something.
     
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    didn't say i wanted any of that
    "high speed gaming class ram" as in better ram
    thank you
     
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    Eh, there really isn't such a thing as "better" RAM these days. So long as a stick passes MemTest86+, it'll be perfect :p.
     
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    Well... it won't necessarily be perfect (flipped bits do happen -- that's why ECC still exists), but in my experience the chance of RAM that handles a couple full passes of memtest86+ going bad soon thereafter is pretty darn slim. The bathtub curve seems to be *very* true when talking about RAM.
     
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    At least for all practical purposes, it would be (still aware of ECC, and we're learning about error-correction in an ECE class I'm taking).
     
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    Yep. Still, I mentioned the bathtub curve for a reason, and given enough time your odds of hitting bad RAM go up quite a bit.

    Now all that said, flipped bits are rare. Even better: the chances of a random bit flip hitting something critical are pretty bloody low. Maybe it causes an extra loop due to a botched conditional in the code that causes your word processor to blink its cursor. Only you blinked, and you missed the extra third of a microsecond that it took. Or it changed a pixel in Call of Duty from "that one particular shade of brown" to "a very slightly different shade of brown". Only it's CoD, so you didn't notice it. Or... you get the point.

    Or you could be really unlucky and the flipped bit causes your OS kernel to spew random gibberish all over your drive and takes out your life's work in the process. But for the odds of that... well... I'd watch out for meteors first.
     
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    As stated don't waste your money on memory. If you want something noticeable look up in the gaming subforum -> DIY external GPU.