should have gotten macbook instead of T61

I regret that i bought T61.
It is too heavy to carry around everyday to school.
College textbooks with my T61 in my north face recon bag, it is very very
heavy.
Im thinking about selling it, and get a new MBP or MB.

 

Um, would you be saving 1ib? I'm too lazy to look it up but two straps on a recon bag will make the weightload on your body significantly less if 1ib is even noticeably.
This is probably a joke post or you're not that wise.

 

According to the T61 review, it starts off at 5.1 pounds ( http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3708&review=ThinkPad+T61), although it depends on which battery you have.

The MacBook Pro is about 5.4 pounds and the Macbook is 5.0 pounds. Weight wise it is not that much of a difference I suppose, but ultimately the decision is yours to keep it or not.

 

15'' MacBook Pro = 5.4 Pounds
15'' T61 = 5.9 Pounds

If a T61 is very, very heavy, I guess that makes the MBP very heavy?

If weight is a concern, I'd suggest the X series. X61 with or without tablet features are between 3.1 and 3.7 pounds... Or wait for the X300.

 

Or, you can get the Sony SZ or TZ. Offers performance, style, and slimness while being light and portable.

 

This is why I got a D420 eventually...roughly ~3 lbs. I would consider the Macbook Air, X300, or (ideally) the LG P300...

 

i dont think it is the weight but mostly the form factor, which for me at least prevents me from carrying around my 14.1' t61 around a lot

 

Doesn't this kind of depend on how big you are? If your 6' 190lbs it might not feel all that big, but if someone was say a 5'3" woman it might be a different story. I'm 6'3" and find a 14.1" seems pretty small.

 

You need to work out more so you can gain some muscle on ur shoulder man~
that's not heavy at all

 

I think you just want a reason to justify the selling of your TP for a MB. The size is adequate and the weight isn't outrageous.

 

I actually agree with this. I really don't prefer one over the other at this point since I'm not sold on either yet, but I get the impression that the OP is just looking for a reason to get rid of the Lenovo because he or she may not be entirely happy with the purchase.

 

Just ignore this thread. Don't people try these things out before buying?

Should we all feel bad for, and console, the OP?

 

I've got a 14.1" T61 widescreen with the 7-cell battery that I carry around in school. I find the weight to be reasonable.

Sure, it's not the lightest 14.1" notebook out there, but one needs to keep in mind that it is a very durable notebook with its built-in roll cage. The extra weight for the roll cage in my opinion is a small price to pay.

You have to decide whether you want a lighter but less durable laptop or a heavier but more durable laptop. You can't really have both.

Just yesterday at home, I tripped over the ethernet cord that was attached to my laptop and it caused my laptop to fall on the ground making a big thumping noise. It was perfectly fine and was not very concerned at the time it fell.

 

I agree except you have to consider that some people are not able to try them out because of where they live or what the stores have to offer. I have been to every retailer in my city and none of them have any Thinkpads to sample. I even went to one place (Best Buy) where one of the sales representatives never even heard of a Thinkpad or Lenovo (I couldn't believe it either). He just looked at me when I asked him. I digress, though. Anyway, some people are not always able to test them out before they buy them. Nonetheless, I don't feel bad for the OP. I think he or she is just having buyer's remorse now and is trying to justify it by saying its too heavy.

 

If they haven't heard of a ThinkPad (I can understand not having heard of Lenovo, since they weren't a force in the US until they bought IBM's PC division) then they're definitely a bit wet-behind-the-ears still, and probably not qualified to tell you much. But honestly, that's often par for the course at Best Buy --online forums and vendor websites will do a lot more to instruct a user willing to do research than big box stores can at this point, since such stores are rarely willing to pay more than paltry wages.

I believe the OP is also doing a "pout, whine" sequence like many here. I think it has nothing to do with the weight of the machine, I think it's about the candy-like interface of OS X, and their perception of what "looks cool" as hardware/software goes. Personally, my perception of the ThinkPad T61 is that it is understated elegance on the outside, and tough as nails underneath. My perception of the Mac is that they're great machines, but you're paying more than I'd find reasonable to get one.

 

Ever wonder how a single straw can break a camel's back, even though it's so light? Nobody that buys a laptop is carrying just the laptop, - it's additional weight being piled on to whatever load you're already lugging around. Depending on how heavy that is, an extra 5lbs could be a LOT - it could be the last straw. Too many newbies with overloaded backpacks and purses think "Pfft, 5 lbs is nothing!" only to learn 5lbs is actually the difference between carrying 25lbs and 30, day-in, day-out, everywhere you go.

That said, yeah, the OP sounds like they've been dazzled by the new Macs, considering there's little difference in weight. They could have at least mentioned the MacBook Air.

 

You make another very compelling point, Lonewolf. I agree with the "candy-like" OS X. I, too, am very attracted to it, but I don't know if I'm attracted enough to spend the exorbitant amount of money it costs for a MBP or even a Macbook. Down the line when I am a bit more established, if that happens, then I will definitely consider getting one to play around with.

 

"Doesn't this kind of depend on how big you are? If your 6' 190lbs it might not feel all that big, but if someone was say a 5'3" woman it might be a different story."

I have a 15.4" T61p that is maxed out and it's has a nine cell battery. Someone said it weight 6.9 pounds and I believe it. I am a 5'8" woman and I find it to be incredibly heavy. I wouldn't trade it for another but she is a heavy little piece of equipment.

 

Do you have the 14.1" T61 or the 15.4"? I have the 14.1" and a North Face Borealis Backpack (same design for carrying around laptops) and I have never struggled to take my laptop to class. My roomate has a macbook, and I think it's exactly the same. I don't know what you're talking about!

P.S. My roommate came to college with a macbook, and I came with a T61, and his macbook is now for sale and his T61 in the mail! But we are doing a lot of programming so Windows is more ideal.

 

I am more established (no offense intended ), and I'm a former Apple Certified Tech (in addition to doing Windows networking --I kind of straddle the fence). And I loved the PowerBook G4 Titanium I used for the last six months (picked it up used and with one broken part for a song, fixed it for another $20) in terms of the OS being easy to work with, and the style and forward-thinking innovations of a design that was years ahead of its time when released. But I wanted faster, and when I looked, I just couldn't justify the price of what I wanted. What you're really paying for isn't the hardware --it's the style factor, and the privilege of running OS X. And while both are pretty cool, they're not cool enough for me to justify an extra $500 to get an Apple notebook with discrete graphics (a personal requirement on any laptop I buy), and a fully-configured T61 cost the same as a lesser-featured MacBook.

Which is why I narrowed it down to Dell and Lenovo, and bought Lenovo. I saved money, and still got a top-end computing experience. I have nothing against Apple (other than that I hate their client/server networking, they're best as a standalone experience), unlike some of the PC crowd; they have some limitations and issues like every vendor, but they're pretty cool. I'm just not willing to pay that much extra for it.

 

I hear you and absolutely agree with you about not being able to justify the extra money when there are tons of other equipment, albeit Windows, that can give you just about the same bang for you buck. Like I said before, should I ever have the money, I'll probably be singing a different tune. I really just want a MAC lying around that I can play around with while I use Windows for business purposes.

 

I use a Macbook, which I bought for the stability and efficiency of the OS, durability of the machine, and clean lines. Being an ecologist, I have no need for Windows, and prefer Unix-based systems. It's not as tough as business machines, but it takes bumps and falls fine (esp. with the protection of a tight-fitting neoprene case), which is common doing fieldwork. This is after one year of use, and if it continues to hold up, then I'll likely replace it with the same machine (or Air if/when the price becomes more reasonable) as the price is reasonable for the given hardware and build quality with Apple's education discount. Should it crumble before long, then I may look at a business machine – Thinkpad, Latitude, Toughbook – with Linux.