t61p wuxga+ offered w/ student discounts

Is there a reason for offering wuxga+ when purchasing the notebook as a student only? Because if i configure a t61p on the normal site they only offer wsxga+

 

They have supply issues with certain panels, so they don't offer them on the main site. Sometimes they're still offered on special sites, like the education or SPP for example. This may be what's happening now.

 

The WUXGA panel Lenovo is using is very low quality, severe light bleed and very dim. Lenovo says this is within spec.

Also, 1900x1200 is really high res on a 15.4" display. WSXGA 1600x1000 is much more appropriate

You may also want to look into the HP 8510w or the p. The w whips the pants off the T61p (performance, price and service.) After a disaster of an experience with Lenovo I got the HP 8510w and really like it.

 

Seriously, why did they unban you? All you do is troll the LENOVO forum to bad mouth them, and to advertise your HEWLETT-PACKARD laptop. You are one obsessed fan boy of the likes.

Plus, your 8510w is about 2 times more expensive for the same parts, not to mention the current t61p on the main site is a WSXGA+. It's time to move on.

 

Come on now, Maxx may have trolled in the past, but his post in this thread was not in any way innappropriate, it was even helpful.

 

Go look at all the entries he has made in the Lenovo forum these past 2 weeks, he camps for the chance to plug the same thing in every time.

 

Yes, I understand that. I've read his posts. However this particular post was not at all inappropriated, and may even have been helpful.

 

I really like how the only defense for the Lenovo's unethical behavior and terrible customer service is to attack those who bring it to light. I guess when there is no defense for Lenovo's behavior and crappy quality all you can do is make personal attacks to those who report them.

I'm doing my part to make sure that users can make informed decisions. Lenovo screwed me bad. They have screwed numerous others too. Consumers need to know the kind of company they are considering dealing with andin my 25 years of experience Lenovo is the worst. You folks trying to pretend that it's all the 'bad users' and that people are making stuff up are way off base. This is not the case. Lenovo's ethics are non existent. Their quality is iffy at best. I don't care if it comes with a BJ, the hassle of dealing with incompetent customer service and poor quality is not worth it.

I'm not in love with HP. But the 8510w is an excellent alternative to the T61P and you don't have to go thru the hassle of dealing with Lenovo and hoping the crappy lappy they send isn't defective. You don't have to deal with Lenovo's lying customer service department. You don't have to deal with them ducking their warranty when their defective products are delivered.
Pound for pound and dollar for dollar the HP is better than the Lenovo. No, HP's prices don't fluctuate 50% week to week like Lenovo's do. But hey, at least you know the $2500 laptop you buy today isn't going to suddenly be $1500 tomorrow.

 

That's funny. What you don't realize is that they are attacking you because you are so annoying. What kind of response do you expect? How can you blame them? Would it even be possible to talk to you objectively about the pros and cons of HP's vs. Thinkpads? Look at the kind of vitriol you go around spewing and ask yourself, am I REALLY trying to help people, or am I venting my very one-sided arguments in the most annoying way possible?

Thinkpads are LEGENDARY for their quality and durability. You speak your opinion that "Their quality is iffy at best" as if it were fact, can you back that up? Every Thinkpad I have EVER seen was built like a tank. There is a good reason they have a reputation for durability and reliability. What should I believe, the positive reviews and the reputation known all over the professional world, or some guy on a forum whose best argument is "I don't care if it comes with a BJ"? How can we take you seriously when you act like a troll?

If you REALLY are trying to help people, you need to work on your delivery. Remember, presentation is everything! Act like a troll and you will be treated as such!

A final note: I am NOT a Thinkpad fanboy. I have never owned one. In fact, you might expect me to take your side, because I am currently having problems with Lenovo's customer support. I ordered a T61 and there have been issues processing my order that have delayed things. However, under the circumstances, the same thing could have happened with any company. I'm not going to go on a crusade against Lenovo because of this, I'm going to handle it like a mature adult.

 

Sorry to be a child but....
I think I have never seen as many really unhappy, pissed off people in a forum for a product generally considered to be best in class. You don't see Mercedes owners clamoring for a piece of their CSRs.
Because of this, I am making a rash prediction that Lenovo will soon be going down the Dell path of severely reduced sales and profits.
IBM was genuis in abandoning ship early on in the sinking of the Titanic.

 

I'm not a Thinkpad fanboy, I'm still trying to be a first time owner with my own share of customer service problems. I will say that after all I've read on the forums combined with my personal experience with Lenovo custom service, when my Thinkpad arrives if I am not 100% satisfied with it, I will be returning it. Had things run smoother for me personally, I might have considered keeping it despite small imperfections (e.g., if I deemed the light leakage to be tolerable within my own preferences). However, at this point, I'm going to expect a lot more for what I went through. I know others have had great experiences with Lenovo, and I'm happy for them. It's just unfortunate and disappointing that my first experience with Lenovo was a moderately bad one.

I think MonsterMaxx went slightly off topic in his first post on this thread (since the original post was not at all related to quality, just available resolutions). But, because of my ThinkPad shipping delay , I've had much more time to read these forums, and it was one of MonsterMaxx's previous posts in another thread that alerted me to the HP 8510w. If it was within my budget, I would have probably bought it by now. So, yes, his posts are sometimes useful, but I agree with HellBore, delivery needs work.

To get slightly back on topic:

This would only be remotely the same if you could only see a few "stock" Mercedes configurations at the dealership and had many more possible configurations on the Mercedes website but without the ability to see/test all the custom changes you made firsthand. I don't know about everyone else and I haven't gone car shopping in at least a few years, but I was able to test drive the exact car I took home.

The problem with most custom laptop orders (any manufacturer) is that for the more advanced configs (e.g., WUXGA + UWB + WWAN, etc), you won't ever find them stocked in the local stores for you to play with. For some of us here, we are buying "sight unseen". I'd also really consider a Dell D830 as well, but without being able to play with any Latitude at any Dell kiosk and check the build quality, I hesitate. At least I was able to check the build quality of a 15.4" T61p (albeit, WSXGA) at a local store.

 

I bet to differ on that, only because I never bought into the hype of Thinkpad when other brands like HP's business line and Dell's Latitudes perform as good as Thinkpads. Yes, I have owned one and it's fine, but nothing spectacular about them (I do however feel the tendency to act snobbish when using a Thinkpad). What's respectable about HP is how they have managed to built themselves up, generating highly-positive reviews for their commercial and consumer products and revamping their PC business so well.