whats diff /w R and T series?

I have been ready about the R and T but I still cannot conclude what is the difference between the T and the R series? other than the cpu since T60 is duel and R50's is pentium m....

 

T weight starts at 4.5 lbs, R starts at 5.8 lbs
T has available integrated WAN
T supports more RAM
T has better available graphics
T has the thinkpad roll cage
T has standard active HD protection
T has a shock mounted HD
T has standard ultranav
T has mobile workstation models
T is better quality
T has better battery life

 

T also costs more!

but remember, "you get what you pay for."

I think the next R series will have the rollcage also.

 

The R is still solid just not as solid as the T.

 

ah so R is just a cheaper/worst version of T series...

 

R series also has the standard HD protection (APS) like the T series.
R series may not be magnesium composite but the build is very durable and tough, although some T fanboys mistake the R for a cheap quality thinkpad.
R series uses the same components as the T series (not talking about the T-60).
R series has the exact same look as the older T series which is a good thing as personally i think the new T60 design is way too bland.
R series also has the UltraNav just like the T series.
R series may have lower battery life (although it does give almost 4+ hours) but then it is not meant to be thin and light unlike the T series.

bottom line is: the R series is the closest to the T series than the rest of the thinkpad lineup but will give you more value unless you really must have core duo. Personally i'd get the R series for now and save up money for the Merom based notebooks which will be 64-bit and dual core. Otherwise you cannot beat the R series for great value.

 

The T series is like owning a Lexus. The R series is like owning a Toyota. Both cars are made by the same company and both laptops are manufactured by the same company.

The R series is a Thinkpad without leather (security software apps). While the T series comes fully loaded with leather and all the goodies.

The Flexscreen would equal bigger wheels and chrome rims.

 

FYI R52 has the so called security software apps.

 

R series, cheap platic and heavier. T Series, sleek plastic and lighter.

 

I really thought for a minute that Karl Gruber was serious when making such baseless claims about the difference between T and R, until i realised he was just joking. LMAO

 

Flexview is far more useful than blingin wheels

 

Exactly,strikeback. I don't think he has the flexview on his elite T series and maybe is angry at those with the R series that have it and love it. If you read his posts you'll wonder if he even has any idea about R series and as another member questioned about him even owning a thinkpad! lol

He talks like a child who must make comments without even doing a bit of research. i read some of his back posts and couldn't help laughing. He'd be kicked out as a troll if he made those kind of comments on thinkpads.com.

 

The R and T series are both equally solid.

The R is just a more lower priced version of the T series but its not the worst version of the T series.

The R series may be a bit heavier than the T series but its not that heavy and it dosen't have cheap plastic like other laptops, it has sturdy plastic.
And I think that you should check out these websites:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=20826
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=83140
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=22122

 

You are entitled to your opinion. Infantilizing my posts is not going to weaken my argument and make your opinion stronger. The R series is targeted to consumers. The T series is targeted to business travelers.

Both work well. The T series is superior.

 

The T and the R are not equally solid, that has been my experience. There is nothing wrong with the R, but is not built to as high a standard as the T. It also costs less. Compared to other notebooks in the same range it is very good.

 

Karl, i have nothing personal against you but if you make statements like "the R series doesnt come with Thinkpad Security software" and "the flexview is like bigger wheels with chrome", then it makes people wonder whether you have actually used an R series or have seen flexview. I however totally agree with your statement regarding the T and R catering to different types of people i.e business travel and those needing a laptop mostly for home use.

 

I have a T43p 1.73M. My friend has an R51, 1.5M. I added a lot of the security features to my friends R51 that came standard on my T43. I don't think the R has a fingerprint reader, but the fingerprint reader may have since been added to the R series.

I never said the R series didn't offer the Flexview screen. I was simply stating the options available. T series owners are not going to jump to the Z series either, now that the T60 is available.

 

does the R series have spill proof keyboard?

 

Yes. The R series really has everything that the T series has (except the Flexview which is being phased out - R52 doesn't have it anymore and I doubt R60 will).

 

Guess i was lucky to have bought the R-51 with the flexview about 2 months ago. I got a great deal and now will wait for the Thinkpad Merom.

I should also add to make it clear that the R51e has some security features missing i.e APS, thinkvantage and also no UltraNav. The regular R51 however does have all the security software features.

http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/rseries/compare_series.html

 

My experience has been that they are equally solid, I also have used a T. And what's wrong with the R series costing less? Its a ThinkPad and its better than the other laptops that cost less. I think that you should go to this website and see posts #2 and 4: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=83140

The R does have a fingerprint reader, its on the R52.

 

There is nothing wrong with the R series. It is a great notebook. I often recommend it to people looking for a low cost well built notebook. The T is just built to a higher standard. It is also lighter which cost more money in notebooks. I think you are swimming upstream, but lets just agree to disagree.

 

Yes, the economy models (R50e/R51e) have lots of small stuff missing. That's how they get them to cost significantly less.