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    which clean install method??

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by madugo, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. madugo

    madugo Notebook Enthusiast

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    hi, i will get my T61 tomorrow!!so happy!!
    so i am gonna try to do a clean install first, since all of you saying it will run a lot better with clean install...
    i see all these clean install guides here...so i am a little confuse...
    basiclly i am not gonna burn a recovery disk, because i dont have a dvd burner on my T61..so i have to keep the 6G recovery file on the hardrive. and i am gonna use the oem vista...i am just trying to do a very simple one that remove the unuseful softwares and stuff thats pre-installed...
    so please guys, tell me which guide will suit me best? a simple to do one is good for me..i mean i am not a computer pro..
    thanks all...
     
  2. panteedropper

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    if you want to keep it simple, just uninstall everything you dont need from the control panel.
     
  3. SkyzerFizer

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    Yeah that's what I'm doing, it seems to be the most simple and safe route for someone who doesn't want to be bothered by creating dozens of recovery files and worrying about if what they're doing is bad/good for the computer or can be undone...
     
  4. panteedropper

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    you don't really have to create recovery disks, but its highly recommended. I managed to screw up my install within the first hour of ownership and I didn't burn the dvd's naturally.

    In order to do a custom recovery you can run it right off the hard disk, turn on the computer and as soon as you see the lenovo screen, hit the blue button.
     
  5. stallen

    stallen Thinkpad Woody

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    A "computer pro" wouldn't need a guide at all. The guides are there to make it easier. To be honest whatever guide you use the outcome will probably be about the same. You should just look at the information that is available to you and decide what looks like the easiest for you to follow. I really don't care if you use my guide or not. I don't get anything out of it. I just like to help. If you do use my guide, I'd like to get your feedback along the way so I can make it even more clear than it already is. If you just follow the steps, it is not nearly as difficult than it appears.

    Whatever you do. Good Luck and enjoy your laptop. ;)
     
  6. hypertrophy

    hypertrophy Notebook Evangelist

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    For your needs, just use the Lenovo Rescue and Recovery software and do a Customized install from the partition. It's not really a full "clean" install, but you should be ok.

    If you're looking to do a true clean install, see my sig.
     
  7. Playmaker

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    The customized recovery lets you choose whatever you want to be installed; I fail to see how that isn't a "full clean install."
     
  8. hypertrophy

    hypertrophy Notebook Evangelist

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    Check the amount of necessary/unnecessary processes running before and after a recovery partition install and a clean install and you'll see the difference between a clean install and a recovery partition install.
     
  9. Playmaker

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    That's a pretty vague justification considering that you don't offer examples of programs that you are forced to install by BSA+R&R that a conventional clean install wouldn't. You're almost asking me to prove you're right by telling me to check.
     
  10. hypertrophy

    hypertrophy Notebook Evangelist

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    Johnny, just do as you please.
     
  11. Playmaker

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    Seriously, let's say you installed the same programs/drivers with the custom recovery and with the vista-disk install. How many more processes would the former one have? What programs specifically does the custom recovery install that the conventional does not?
     
  12. hypertrophy

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    Johnny, you're just looking for an argument. Look elsewhere.
     
  13. madugo

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    thanks guys...
    so how to do a customized recovery??
    is it like restart the comp and hit the blue button when see the levovo screen??
     
  14. Vmax

    Vmax Newbie

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    Finally someone who seems to see through Playmakers nature.

    Playmaker, I wish you would stop your often obnoxious and condoscending posting. You may be fairly knowledgeable and you may have written a truckload of posts, but most of them are just plain disrespectful.
     
  15. hypertrophy

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    Yeah pretty much. It should bring up the Rescue and Recovery application, and you should be able to select a reinstall from there (i've forgotten the exact name because it's been a while since i originally did the partition install). There will be a window that will ask you if you would like to save files from your hard drive. Choose the one that saves NOTHING and it will reformat the partition on your hard drive with the OS. Then after clicking a few OKs, it should bring up a menu where you're allowed to choose between a Factory Install or a Customized Install. Choose the latter. Finally select the Base Software that you wish to keep, and continue with the install. You should be good to go from there.
     
  16. madugo

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    thanks man...i will try this tonight when i get my laptop..
    and to do this won't wipe out the 6G recovery files from my harddrive right?
     
  17. stallen

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    That's right, but is you are concerned about the partition do ahead and make the disks. Also, some people are glad to get rid of that partition. The HDD space can be used for other things.
     
  18. Saneless

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    Can you still do a custom recovery install from the DVDs? I'm doing my own HDD upgrade when I get the machine, so obviously I won't have the recovery partition (I intend to make DVD backups though)
     
  19. hypertrophy

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    If the Recovery disk contains the Base Software Administrator tool within the disk itself, then yes you will be able to do a Customized install.
     
  20. Playmaker

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    First, I changed that post before hypertrophy responded to it. I kindly alerted him to the edit via PM before he posted. I find it disrespectful that he didn't change his response even after I told him I recanted my statement.

    But second, you seem to have a knack for calling out veteran members of this forum (SideSwipe). I don't see where you have the audacity to come criticizing those of us who have actually made contributions to these boards. Until you prove your worth, your criticisms are worthless to me.
     
  21. mujtaba

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    Guys, keep it clean please.
     
  22. Playmaker

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    Where did you get this information from? Not that I'm skeptical, I'm just wondering because I always thought Base Software Administrator was installed on the hard drive and used to edit the recovery partition. The help files of BSA also indicate that the manifest files it makes solely change settings in the recovery partition. Also, I tried installing BSA by itself on my desktop (don't ask why) and it said it couldn't detect a recovery partition, so its manifest-creating feature was disabled. If there is a way to integrate this on a recovery disc, that'd be cool!
     
  23. RJohnson

    RJohnson Notebook Enthusiast

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    Just a bit of history for y'all:

     
  24. brickabrack

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    Looks like Vmax should be the one to start respecting others. Just exactly how have you helped anyone on these boards Vmax?

    And to answer the OP's questions, if you're talkin about Vista, I really like stallen's guide because of all those great pictures! :D But if you're interesting in installing other versions of Windows or using the Lenovo software method, I suggest Playmaker's- it's very complete.
     
  25. SideSwipe

    SideSwipe Notebook Virtuoso

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    ahh Vmax, out blabbering about are we? I can see you have decided to disrespect another long time forum member. What a great asset you are to this forum, having 1/3 of your posts attacking members and the rest just mere remarks/comments. You must be the token troublemaker, every forum has to have at least one and I guess you have volunteered for the job ;)

    People, Vmax is a dish best served ignored :p
     
  26. hypertrophy

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    I find it disrespectful that you have the nerve to contact me via PM when i have asked you (nicely i might add) to no longer contact me . Why dont you be more careful with the things you post. You can choose not to press the submit reply button on the bottom of the page. The post you asked me not to quote shows your true character Johnny. If you find that insulting, then that's on you.
     
  27. madugo

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    i dont have a dvd burner on my comp...and i do not want to use like 10 cds to burn the whole thing...i will lose maybe one of them very easy...
    so i have to keep that 6G of file on my harddrives...
    so is it for sure this method wont wipe the files from my harddrive?
    thanks
     
  28. SideSwipe

    SideSwipe Notebook Virtuoso

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    madugo, you should burn those discs regardless of the number and what you can do afterwards is use a program like nero or dvd decryptor to create isos of the discs and keep them in an external drive for storage. That way if ever the partition is accidentally damaged or wiped then you will always be able to use the restore discs and/or isos to recover. Many have made the mistake of not backing up and paid the price. and besides discs are dirt cheap these days, it's worth it ;)
     
  29. Playmaker

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    Hypertrophy, you're just looking for an argument. Look elsewhere.
     
  30. ThinkDisadvantage

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    Don't think your argumentation is very convincing when Playmaker is making an effort to stay on topic. You're the one trying to start stuff here when you call Playmaker out for making a rude comment he (rightfully should have) retracted or ignoring a legitimate post he makes:

    Hypertrophy, maybe it's best if you stay on topic and stop trying to lure Playmaker into an argument. It's best for this thread and best for NBR users in general. You and Playmaker should keep your issues in PM. IMO you both are idiots: Playmaker was about to make a stupid comment, but at least Playmaker took a step back before leaving bait for a new argument- which you happily created by not honoring his good-natured request (even if it required a PM to you which you didn't want) to leave it alone.

    By the way, there's no way to integrate BSA into the recovery disks. BSA is only supposed to tap into a recovery partition on the hard drive and was never designed for use with the disks (read the help files, BSA readme, Lenovo website for BSA). Maybe this is why Playmaker impulsively decided to deride you for making things up.
     
  31. brickabrack

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    LMAO Johnny (I guess that's Playmaker?) was just trying to stop the fire before it started by PMing you. Seeing how this thread has become a disaster, I think you should have just changed your post. Thanks a lot.

    By the way Playmaker, you shouldn't rely too much on the edit button to solve problems because you never know when someone is already reading something mean you wrote.
     
  32. Playmaker

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    Quoted for truth.
     
  33. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well, guess it is time to pull out the fire extinguisher...