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    why lenovo make competive monitors?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by warakawa, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    the largest thinkvision I can buy is 24 inch TN panel "L2440p"....

    dell makes 30", 27" IPS monitors...

    considering lenovo is the third or fourth largest pc maker, how come they make tiny and ty monitors and overprice them?
     
  2. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    What's with all the Lenovo bashing lately? :rolleyes:
     
  3. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    From a pure percentage term, Lenovo market cap is around one third of Dell.

    IBM use to maintain a very advanced LCD manufacturing process, until it de-merged and sold the business. Lenovo did not get a large Thinkvision business from IBM, and it just maintained the status quo.

    I guess Lenovo did not produce more of these products, because they could not justify the capital cost of expansion and not producing enough profit return.

    Lenovo at the moment seems to be trying to focus all their resources on their computer business first.
     
  4. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    Which is not a bad thing in my opinion.
     
  5. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    a well developed monitor division is important for the expansion of a computer company.

    Look how lenovo is trying to sell their desktops... "monitors not included" and when you want to buy a monitor as an extra, the best one they can offer is a 24“ with poor viewing angle.

    I can't even get a good thinkvision to match my thinkpad, now seems likely that i am going to buy 2 27" from dell, that's $2400AUD that lenovo could have made off me if they made good monitors.

    how hard is it to make good monitor? the IPS technology is more than 14 years old.
     
  6. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    none of the computer companies make their own LCD panel, they are manufactured by LG (H-IPS), AUO, Chemei, etc.

    Also i am assuming you are going to buy the Dell 2707WFP that screen is pretty bad, we use to use them in our offices for design work. But the bad quality for text and pictures, mean that we were forced to use the Eizo and NEC ips monitors.

    So my point here is that not all IPS monitors are created equally, and Dell is not the best.

    Read their blog and forum section on how they are dealing with Dell U2410 tinge problem.

    If you want quality, then you should consider Eizo or NEC LCD.... even HP range of 24 inch H-IPS monitor is better than Dell's one, and they have the same range of inputs.

    Avoid 27 inch Dell at all cost.

    http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/dell-2707wfp/4505-3174_7-32306445-2.html?tag=txt;page
     
  7. jaakobi

    jaakobi Notebook Evangelist

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    What's so bad about it? the low pixel density?
     
  8. jaakobi

    jaakobi Notebook Evangelist

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    My guess is that monitors are low margin sales, so they focus on computers instead. What's the big deal anyway? You want a monitor to match your Thinkpad's color?
     
  9. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    U2707 is like from 2007...

    i am planning on getting U2711, cnet begs to differ and give U2711 an unprecedented 4.5 stars.

    Eizo or NEC are just simply way too expensive for the benefit they provide, Eizo are designed far graphic designer. The cost-benefit principle would not be applicable to most people. And some people actually consider Eizo to be inferior comparing to U2711.
     
  10. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    There are many issues with tinting, slow response time, etc.

    If OP really wanted the Dell 27 inch H-IPS monitor, get this model instead.

    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2711.htm
     
  11. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    i am a step ahead of you. that is indeed the monitor i am talking out in my first post
     
  12. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    FYI Lenovo is the only manufacturer that offers 22 inch IPS screen with WUXGA resolution.

    Also for that sort of money i would just get a 27 inch iMac computer which can double as IPS monitor.
     
  13. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    which model is that? all 22" seem to have WSXGA not WUXGA
     
  14. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    L220x.....
     
  15. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    where in L220x sold in Australia?
     
  16. ooxxoo

    ooxxoo Notebook Evangelist

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    Most people consider whatever is the cheapest to be the best regardless of image quality. So yes, to most people they are too expensive. Which is why there are dirt-chip Dell TN/e-IPS monitors out there.

    For people who consider a good monitor important... NEC (or whatever brand) H-IPS monitors are well worth it. Especially considering you are staring at the monitor all the time AND monitors are used the longest (easily carried through upgrades).
     
  17. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    as if i need a $3000 monitor for word processing,
     
  18. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    they are no longer produced, the L220x was sold through Lenovo.com website. I was going to get one from the a second hand dealer, but the one he has had a broken dvi input......... which pretty much defeat the purpose of getting this display in the first place.
     
  19. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    you introduced me a monitor that's rarer than Asian chick with Double D. They are impossible to find
     
  20. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    You are not looking hard enough....
     
  21. warakawa

    warakawa Notebook Evangelist

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    well please enlighten me, tell me where in the country I can buy the monitor you mentioned. They are not available on the Australian lenovo site
     
  22. lead_org

    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    i am not talking about the screen.
     
  23. jaredy

    jaredy Notebook Virtuoso

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    My cousin has two L220x. Great pixel density.