x201/s now available at Lenovo US site

and dear god, it's quite expensive. $1489 base price for the x201. $2124 for the tablet version.

 

I cannot see it on the Lenovo US site. But if what you said is true... holy premium pricing batman! The base price for X201 is higher than the price of T410s!

 

Regular pricing is 1489 for the x201, 1729 for the x201s, and 2124 for the x201t.
EPP Pricing is XXXX for x201, 1469 for x201s, and XXXX for x201t.

Quite.. expensive... I too don't understand how it's priced higher than the T410s.

Also, it seems like the trackpad is optional, not standard.

8gb of memory can be configured, so it does support 8gb.

There is NO wxga and camera option for the x201s, only the wxga+. However all screens are now LED. Also the x201 options are 12.1" WXGA LED Panel, 3x3 UltraConnect II antenna; Wireless Broadband Upgradeable OR 12.1" WXGA LED Panel, 2x2 UltraConnect II antenna; with Camera and Wireless Broadband Upgradeable. I guess no camera with 3x3...

Also, there was a thread on here wondering how the x201 was going to handle the same heat from the i7-620M that the T410 had, seeing as how it was a smaller chassis and heat sink and all. The i7-620M is NOT configurable for the X201. Only i5-520 and i5-540. x201s as i7-620LM and 640LM. So that puts that debate to rest.

Time to save up...

 

yes now it's available, but why no i7? I'm looking for a faster speed ...

 

They're charging $20 (on top of the fingerprint reader) for a touchpad that's smaller than a sugar packet? Seriously??


The overall price is more or less what I expected. The x200(s/T) were pretty close to that at launch as well. Therefore, unless you REALLY need the extra performance offered by Arrandale, the x200(s/T) is probably a much better buy.

 

That's the MOST expensive touchpad in terms of price/square inch I've ever heard of. It's like you're buying premium real estate. I'm not surprise about the price, I'm surprised about the no i7, and the huge price difference between the 201 and 201s.

Also it seems that they don't have the warranty selection page or accessories page quite up yet. Just the configurations page.

 

I hope they are still tweaking the ordering system. On the frontpage (clipboard1.jpg) it says that i7 is available but after the customize and buy (clipboard2.jpg) the i7 is gone

 

Yeah I noticed that as well. Plus the hardware manual lists i7's for the x201. Maybe they're just not available yet, and most likely they just haven't gotten there act together... which is more than probably. It also says it ships within 11 days... but I highly doubt that also. I'll wait a few months and let things settle down before I jump on one of these.

And it looks like they're working on it as we speak. Because the 4 cell battery option disappeared, and before it was "trackpoint, trackpoint+fp reader, trackpoint+fp reader+touchpad" but now the fp reader is mandatory. They're probably working out the kinks.

Everyone on the forum needs to pitch in to send someone to school to get a masters in Supply Chain Management, and then they need to go work for lenovo and hook us up with discounts and timely delivery/launches.

 

can't wait to see the x201t to be listed on the Australia site, the price will probably be around the 5000AUD

 

Guys this is interesting!

On UK website the trackpad is available at no extra cost

The i7 is available

The x201s is more expensive

and the x201 seems more expensive than our starting price (820 GBP)!!!!

 

I'm seeing base prices of

X201 = $XXX.XX

X201s = $XXXX.XX

X201t = $XXXX.XX

from CPP website.

 

It seems to me that with the core i5/7 iteration of processors, the battery life advantage of the 201s over the 201 is not as pronounced as the difference between the 200s and 200. Especially with the larger capacity 9 cell available to both. That's why I was leaning towards the x200s, but with the x201s, the mild weight loss with out a shrink in size (201 and 201s are both the same size with the 9 cell) and the wxga+ screen don't justify the price difference for me. Especially seeing as how the 540M at idle doesn't consume significantly more watts than the 620LM. I think the difference between the P and SL processors was more pronounced in that area as well.

 

Welcome USA friends to the regular pricing of Europe ... I think now you begin to understand our frustration. I think China is tired of buying US treasury bills and the bankster bailouts ... no more trade favors, same price as everyone LOL. By the way the X200s (old series) is still over U$2,000 here !

And yes that is a LOT of money for a laptop with a very average screen ... Sony is starting to look good even in the USA !

 

No worries, it went immediately into sale
x201 1099 USD
x201s 1349 USD

 

Woohoo! Goodbye European pricing. It did indeed go on sale, now the 201 is much closer to the T410 price. That's more like it!

The x201t is still a whopping $2134.00 though.

SPP pricing has dropped to XXX.XX for the x201, and XXXX.XX, both only a tad bit over the recent x200 and x200s prices. Not too bad of a price increase for a CPU refresh!

The x200 and x200s are completely gone as well.

 

Here im hoping that Lenovo still have loads of X200s in stock to sell to ressellers at least for few more months for cheap

 

no whats the real world performance difference between the 620 and 640. Worth the $40 upgrade?

Where are those 20% coupons!

I have an x201s configured with the additions of i7-640 + 9 cell battery at $XXXX waiting to pull the trigger...

 

The noticeable performance difference between the 620 and 640 are minimal. You could easily get a 620 and never miss the 640. But if you're buying brand new, I would get the 640. 40 dollars is a minimal investment over the life of the notebook if you keep yours for years, and I tend to adopt a "why not?" attitude, especially when there's no noticeable hit to battery life either.

 

I believe the x201s is 2.47 lbs. How much weight does the 9cell battery add to it? Totally negate the weight loss?

 

The I believe the x201s w/ 9 cell comes out around 3.05-3.1 pounds? or very very close to that. With the 6 cell it's 2.71-2.77 lbs. For comparison the x201 with the 9 cell is 3.5-3.6 pounds.

EDIT: the techspecs (not tabook) have been posted and have weights:

X201
4 cell - 2.89
6 cell - 3.18
9 cell - 3.52

X201s
4 cell - 2.48
6 cell - 2.77
9 cell - 3.11

There's a difference of .41 lbs. between the X201 and X201s. Sounds small but it's significant, seeing as that an S with a 9 cell is lighter than a regular x201 with a 6 cell, and the S with the 6 cell is lighter than the x201 with the 4 cell! But in carrying weight... 3.11 --> 3.52 pounds probably isn't noticeable. The .4 pounds saved is less than the .63 pounds you gain in weight by going from the 4 cell to the 9 cell.

Also from a size perspective, anything other than the 4 cell on the x201s and you lose the slimness benefit, it becomes as thick as the x201.

On a separate note, on the comparisons page it lists the x200 as having no roll cage, and the x200s has an optional roll cage. For the x201 and x201s it lists them both as standard. I don't know what they mean by "roll cage" in this context, but I was under the impression that the x200 had a mag alloy chassis and abs plastic, the x200s had mag chassis and cfrp lid roll cage, so the 201/201s would have the same?

 

Oh well guess we are frustrated again ... but at least this time the price difference isn't as BIG as usual, only a few hundred dollars LOL ... I am also thinking of foregoing the 201 series and buy X200s ... if I can find one !

Imagine if someone had clicked BY NOW just before they went on sale ... that would be frustrating !

 

lenovo has a price protection policy.   no one needs to be frustrated.

 

on a side note, please do not post EPP/CPP pricing publicly.   if you have access to these prices, great.   enjoy the discount!   however, we ask that you not post these prices publicly.   thank you.

 

If you are a visa cardholder, there is a special deal for it. Just click "redeem offer" to get to lenovo.com.
http://usa.visa.com/personal/discounts/detail/Lenovo_41_W10/vro_details.jsp?offerName=Lenovo_41_W10&offerId=28533&pageId=197

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I want to get the X201 with on-site service, however, it only offers deport right now. Does anyone know how to get the on-site service for X201???

 

I don't believe they've set up the warranty page properly yet for the X201. The X201s has all the configurable warranties available, I'm sure they'll get around to fixing the X201 page.

 

Great!!! Thank you!!!

I can't wait to get X201!!!

 

Can anyone comment or post pics comparing the 1440x900 resolution of a x301 vs a x200/201? I think on a 13" screen the 1440x900 resolution is already pushing it. I'm wondering if on the 12" screen it will make it very inconvenient. What is the next highest natural ws resolution you can switch to on the x200/x201s?

Thoughts?

 

No dice for me here. The X201s isn't WWAN upgradeable. I won't buy a computer that doesn't allow me to install a card for Verizon.

 

You can compare them using PPI.

The x200/201 at 1280x800 (12.1") is about 125ppi.
The x200s/201s at 1440x900 (12.1")is about 140ppi.
The x301 at 1440x900 (13.3") is about 128 ppi.

For comparison..
A 22" widescreen desktop monitor at 1680x1050 is 90ppi.
A 10.2" eee pc at 1024x600 is about 116ppi.

140ppi is definitely on the high end of things. Some users find it cramped and too tiny, many others on here have said they get used to it rather quickly. If you suffer easily from eye fatigue, or have bad eye sight it may not be a good idea. If you feel you can adjust, the extra screen real estate is worth it. I don't have any pictures to post unfortunately, but perhaps you can find some comparisons online or someone else here might have pictures.

 

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...781CA29B4ECB9ADAD8E72CF6FD61&tabname=Features

This page says that stereo speakers are available on both the X201 or X201s. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

 

Properly configured that Tablet is right at around $3K

 

The x201 has stereo speakers and the x201s/t have a mono speaker according to the hardware manual.

 

I'm pretty sure the x201T has stereo speakers. My x200T has stereo speakers and it would seem very odd to downgrade it (both the x200 and x200s were mono).

 

You're right, I checked the hardware manual and it's just the S that has the mono, the 201/t have the stereo. Sorry for the misinformation!

 

Then why does that page say that the X201 + X201s have stereo speakers available? > : o

 

Last night I could see three x201T models. Now I can only see then $2134 model that only has the 4 cell battery option. Am I the only one limited to that model to customize and buy?

 

I'm asking for advice. Is it wrong to order through CPP if you're not a contractor? I have a code, so I'm not asking for that (and I know the rules ). Just asking if it's wrong... cause those prices, good god....

 

No, it's not wrong. The IBM Employee Discount program is for friends and family of employees, so if you have a code, presumably you're a friend of an employee, or a friend of a friend, etc...

 

It's legal. However, it is unethical. As an IBMer, the CPP is a perk for my family and some of my very close friends. Having it posted on a page of this forum is just wrong and uncool.

That being said... once a thinkpad user, always a thinkpad user. If this is your first opportunity to become one of the proud, I would call you a friend. You'll be buying thinkpads for a long, long time.

At least get rid of the dell dude

 

Get rid of me??? or the avatar? I made it to make fun of Dell. I'll change it.

 

Right now I'm trying decide between the x201 and x201s. The main difference in components for me are the processors (i7-620m v. i7-640LM) and the screen resolution (1280x800 v. 1440x900) between the two units. I will be using the notebook for database development besides the basic productivity tasks. Can I go wrong with either processor? Thanks for the help.

 

It sucks that they make you choose between these, doesn't it?

 

Want to confirm that the x200 and x201s batteries are the same. I ordered a 9 cell but want to pickup a 4 cell from ebay which has tons of x200 batteries (43R9253).

Thx

 

Unethical would be to give better prices to some and inflated prices to others ...
but if you work for IBM you should get a discount, actually you should get it at cost since you are a walking advertisement for the company. Has anyone ever calculated what the real cost of a laptop is .... think you would be surprised.

Have a quick query for Erik/Zaz: do you know at all if the LED screens on the X201 series are exactky the same as the ones on the X200 series. I tried Sony today. Not as bad as the T400 re eye strain but still present.

 

I think they are the same. I would avoid the 4 cell batteries. Quite frankly, the 6 cell battery is only a tiny bit bigger and offers more than twice the battery life. I read a post in this forum where someone recommended getting a 4 cell battery and a 9 cell battery to handle situations where you want to go low weight or situations where you want to go with long battery life. I went with that suggestion and I regretted it for 8 months. The 4 cell is light, but I ended up also taking my power adapter just in case. The 9 cell is much heavier and it juts out in an awkward way.

The 6 cell battery ended up being the perfect balance of the two. I purchased a 9 cell with the X201S last night, but I know I will be spending most of my time with the wonderful 6 cell. I think the 9 cell for the X201 may have more power than the 9 cell of the X200, but the rest of the batteries should be the same.

 

According to the TA book:
"without UltraBase; 4/6-cell: 11.6" x 8.3" x 0.8-1.4"; 295mm x 210mm x 20.7-35.3mm
without UltraBase; 9-cell: 11.6" x 9.2" x 0.8-1.4"; 295mm x 233.8mm x 20.7-35.3mm
4-cell: from 2.89 lb (1.31kg); 6-cell: from 3.18 lb (1.44kg); 9-cell: from 3.52 lb (1.60kg)"

Does that mean dimension wise the 4 and 6 cell are exactly the same? I thought only the 4 cell was flush? I want a lightweight option that is flush and a heavier one for longer battery life...

 

The 4 cell is flush. The 6 cell bulges from the bottom. The 9 cell bulges from the bottom and goes out the back. For the x201. That's not confirmed though, that's just from pictures and others' posts.

And the x200/201 vs x200s/201s will be a forever raging battle in your head until you pull the trigger on one.

Power vs battery life and webcam vs higher resolution are the two main things you need to decide.

Although, I still feel that the performance disparity between the i640lm and the i540m are smaller than the P8xxx and SL9xxx of the last series, so it shouldn't be as deciding a factor as before. Both these models get 10+ hours with a 9 cell and moderate usage, and past a certain point (8 hours for me) the battery life argument is a moot point. It's either a little bit more power with the 540 and a little less battery time, or the other way around. The weight gain on the x201 is minimal , less than half a pound, and if you get a 6 cell or 9 cell on the x201s, the form factors are the same. the x201 is cheaper as well. I would only get the x201s if I really needed every last bit of battery time I could get and take that extra hour or hour and a half or so.

Also there is no WWAN on the x201s.

 

He's right about the X201 and X201s. However, many people feel like the half pound difference is worth the price. I personally have not used the X200 so I can't really comment. I do know that I consider the under 3lbs mark to be "netbook" like territory and even with the 6 cell battery, it's under 3lbs.

My favorite feature of the X200s is the high resolution screen. Even though I keep wishing I had a webcam, I still love the screen res too much to give it up for the X201 over the X201s. I tether my cell phone so the WWAN option doesn't mean anything to me.

You won't go wrong with any choice here. It is a Thinkpad.

 

so anyone ordered yet?

 

the latest ThinkPad PSREF sheets show the X201s as supporting WWAN.   the sales site is either a mistake or a delay in parts.   keep in mind that the X201s uses the same basic planar config as the X201 and the antenna array and LCD housing are the same as on the X200.   there's no logical reason for WWAN not to be supported.