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    x220 w/NO WINDOWS TAX!

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by gbear14275, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. gbear14275

    gbear14275 Notebook Enthusiast

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    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    nice.... but not offered in OZ.
     
    lead_org, Aug 24, 2011
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    Bear in mind with some DOS systems you can't take advantage some coupon deals that floats around on the Lenovo sites which is a bummer. In some cases its actually cheaper to just get a Windows version with coupon deals rather then the DOS systems by itself.
     
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    lead_org Purveyor of Truth

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    windows home premium and pro are pretty cheap as a package. And Windows 7 isn't all that bad.
     
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    Hearst is right. Some sites have a "walk around," but most coupons won't work with the DOS.

    I regret not buying a DOS x220 with an ULV i5. It was it nearly $300 more over the i3. I saw Erik has one, but I doubt he could help me in getting one. The Pentium 957 is just too slow.....
     
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    ZaZ Super Model Super Moderator

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    The 957 is 1.2GHz while the 2537 is 1.4GHz. Does 200MHz make that much of a difference?
     
    ZaZ, Aug 25, 2011
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    Without Windows 7 it's $200 more than I paid for my X220. If most coupons don't work with the DOS option, where is the benefit?
    I scrubbed Windows 7 Home Premium and replaced it with my own copy of Win 7 Ultimate from my MS TechNet subscription.Had I gone the DOS route... what am I missing here?
     
    George Jetson, Aug 25, 2011
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    There was a deal few months ago that coupon worked for this No-Windows system in Barn & Nobles site which made it one of the best deal, but now Lenovo is aware of it.
     
    gnuh, Aug 25, 2011
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    Power consumption is significantly higher with a non-OEM Windows image.
     
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    DOS systems typically end up very close in price to their windows counterparts (and sometimes more) after factoring in coupons.

    trust me, my i5-2537M wasn't nearly that expensive and didn't ship with DOS. ;)

    the price and listing you saw before were both a mistake since that processor was never intended for the US market.   there's a good chance that anyone who ordered one through that link would have had their order canceled.   i only know of two of them here in the states and the other is currently at lenovo.
     
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    i get about 30 minutes difference with the X1 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.
     
    lead_org, Aug 25, 2011
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    Tell Lenovo to send me an ULV x220...... :D Do you know why Lenovo doesn't offer them in the USA? Would it hurt the sales of other laptops like the Edge e220s?

    ZaZ- The 957 is capped to 1.2Ghz, but the i5 and i7 processors have turbo boost which allows them to clock much higher. The 957 is said to be suitable for light office work and I need something with a little more juice than that.
     
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    Turbo schurmbo. I doubt it makes much of a difference.
     
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    How many people are interested in render times? I'd say few.
     
    ZaZ, Aug 25, 2011
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    I'm not sure I'd agree with this...

    I would say that the OEM install is probably a lot better than a clean install, but after tweaking settings/services I'm sure you can negate most of the difference.
     
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    Any proof or additional info on this? What's different in the Lenovo OEM Windows image? Registry settings?
     
    snlrus, Aug 26, 2011
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    It's at least a 1W difference in the X220, sometimes to 1.5W. Even if you assume 1W, that's a battery life difference of over an hour with the X220 6-cell battery, 2hrs with the 9-cell.

    When I first received my X220 I spent a day experimenting with a few different clean installs. None of them came close to the factory image. Corroborated by Johnsondelbrat in his thread. I don't know what Lenovo does with their Windows image, but it always results in lower power consumption than a clean install. This has always been the case, going back multiple product generations. You can knock it down even more from there modifying services yourself. To date I don't think anyone has produced lower power consumption than Johnsondelbrat or myself.


    http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/598867-x220-idling-4-95w-what-about-you.html :
    My posts from May:

     
    vinuneuro, Aug 26, 2011
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    Ok, thanks for all this info.
    Is there a (legal) way to get a factory image for a x220-i5-2520? I ordered my machine with just DOS, since I already own a Windows 7 license.
     
    snlrus, Aug 26, 2011
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