x301 abandoned?

Hi, I was looking for a 13" laptop with a high-def screen, the only one I wound is lenovo x301, but its specs are really outdated and I googled a little bit but I didn't find infos about a new version....
Did Lenovo decided to abandon the x301?

 

x301 is already a superseded model, and lenovo have not yet announced any update for this series of laptop.

 

"how to loose a customer".
Season 1
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by Lenovo.

 

Just so you know, the Sony Vaio Z has 1600*900 and 1920*1080 screens, and the HP Envy 13 has 1600*900 available. The X300/301 aren't the only 13 inch laptops with a high res screen.

 

Non-glare please, I use the laptop for work, not make-up.

 

Just curious what you plan on using it for? You say work so I'm assuming that if you're looking at the x301 that it involves nothing graphic intensive. I just picked up an x301 last month during the horrendous outlet sale and I must say, this thing is pretty darn fast. And I'm comparing it to an older laptop with a Core2Duo T7500. For a laptop as thin and light as the x301, you have to make some compromises.

 

Depending on the usage, the specs may not mean a lick. Most typical notebook usage is not very CPU intensive. If Lenovo came out with a better specced X302, it wouldn't offer much better performance for the things most people do with their notebooks. Lenovo already has a three pound notebook in the X series and a five pound notebook in the T series. Now that they've come out with the four poind T4x0s, another three pound notebook doesn't seem to have a place to fit in. That would be my guess as to why you're not going to see one.

 

Most of the time rdp and ssh connections and work on word,excel, visio and some other office software.
For this tipe of usage the ACTUAL x301 is not a limit, but I also need (very rarely) to use vmware to simulate some environments, and for this usage I need the fastest available processor and 8gb of memory, so an i7 instead of the su9400 or su9600 would be a great improvement.

This without considering that my hope was that with a x302/x310 Lenovo would have deployed a real docking station...

 

maybe get the X201s instead, it has the WXGA+ available in 12.1 inch format. And it comes with a dock.

 

Yes, there is NO news about Lenovo updating the X301 anytime soon. It was NOT in thier road-map for 2010 ether.
So, if I were looking for an ultra portable right now, I would probably get the X201s and be done with it.

 

They are probably going to put one of those i7-620UM or i7-620UE.

 

i7UM is perfect for next X301

 

I think it would be safe to say that once the processor shortage passes, Lenovo will focus on resupplying the x201s/t first before considering refreshing current notebook lines.

 

I'd advise you to check a 12" laptop at a brick store before you order a x201s. I found the screen to be too small to work on so I got a T410s. Pretty happy till now.

 

Ultraportables are a compromise of screen real estate for sure, which is why the WXGA+ led screen of the X series' s-variant might be of interest to some if they can read the tiny fonts.

 

what is a brick store? i heard of big box store, but not a brick store (unless you are actually referring to a store that sells brick).

 

Brick and mortar store. It just means a physical store as opposed to something like newegg, which is online only.

 

i.e. mom and pop shop, hole in the wall, etc.

 

okay, i see...

 

exactly...

 

no news???

 

What is the question? Are you asking if the x301 was discontinued? The answer is yes. Adios x301.

No 13" replacement.

T410s sucks.

x201 sucks.

sheeesh

 

x201: too small for 1440x900.
t410s: inferior to other 14" like dell e6410 or hp 8440p.

 

The E6410 and HP8440p is a slightly different product compared to what T410s, which is an cost effective ultrathin full sized 14 inch laptop. The other two competitor product is just a regular 14 inch laptop.

 

lenovo t410s: 21.1mm x 337mm x 241.5mm x 1.77 kg
dell e6410: 25.4-31.2mm x 335mm x 238.3mm x1.93 kg

t410s is wider and deeper but thinner and lighter.
I think that who buys a 14" laptop doesn't care too much if it's ticker of 4mm or lighter for 150grams, considering that the t410s has a 1,8" hard drive, so a maximum of 128gb ssd and 5400rpm on regular disks. Competitors can have 512g ssd or 7200rpm regular disks.
X301 is 18.6mm-23.4mm x 318mm x 231mm x 1.33 kg, has a slower processor (this because it's 18 months old) and an integrated graphic card.

IMHO, the weight and shape difference between t410s and competitors is too low and specs compromises too high for a buyer who looks at a 14" laptop.

please excuse my english if some sentences are not so clear...

 

i think 25.4 mm thickness is with the 4 cells battery, the 6 cells should bring it to the 31.2 mm thickness. Also, the 1.93 kg quoted weight is for the 4 cells battery, and not the 6 cells battery as mistakenly stated by the NBR.com review, which you copied the stats from.

So T410s is 33% or 1 cm thinner and around 25% lighter than E6410s, when it is equipped with the 6 cells battery. In laptop industry that is indeed a very big deal for the price that T410s is selling at.

If people don't care about the weight and thickness of their 14.1 inch laptop, there wouldn't be a category of ultraportable like X301 or T410s, obviously there is enough market demand for such product. Whether or not you use it or like it is an entirely different matter altogether.

 

No one knows this apart from executives or people involved with the product planning and design. But given that did not put anything on the leaked product roadmap for post-X301 machines, we could only guess that the X30x series for now is dead in the water.

Hopefully, Lenovo can surprise us all with a revamped X30x product if it is profitable enough for them to do.

Level of profit is also important, as the company has only so much money to invest in certain products, if it can only get a yield of 3% from one product, while another product can yield 7%. Then naturally they would focus more of their capital on a higher yielding product. But some product is there to maintain market share, so when a market segment is mature enough, it could easily expand into that particular market segment with an established product brand.

But given that Apple has all but abandoned the Macbook Air, which is the main competitor to the X300/X301 laptops, there is a good chance that X301 will be the last line of the X30x series until further notice.

Maybe, Lenovo could release a T3xx or something to compete against Macbook Pro 13 inch, without charging the premium required by the X301. Many people like X301 but cringe about the retail price, which is one reason why T400s was popular when it was first released, as the product offered the right feature/price mix.

 

customers cringe at the price of every system, whether it be a $3000 X301 or a $700 T400.   there's no end to the complaining online.

all i can say about the X301 is that if someone wants one, it's wise to buy one now.

 

thanks for giving us a head up on this issue.

Can't do anything about these penny pincher, even if you are giving them something for free, they will find ways of complaining about it.

 

LeMarcus, you have to stop quoting long posts, otherwise you are going to make the mod angry.

Regarding Apple Macbook Air, while it is light, compact and sleek looking product. It does lack expandability, upgradability and usability.... also, like all Macbook laptops that relies on the external casing as a heatsink, it overheats and slows down unnecessary. Oh the soldered on rams, internal batteries, one usb, etc... all prevents this laptop from been truly adopted by the wider computing community.

Like all Faddish products that pursue form over function, they generally all fad out, as the sale start to drop to unsustainable level.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Air

 

the MacBook Air was too heavy, had too many buttons, and had more USB ports than consumers needed so it was replaced by the iPad.

 

Your English is perfect. He is correct. For the high price, the T410s has too many compromises. This is especially true on the models with the switchable graphics which means you lose the ExpressCard slot. That is unacceptable to me.

So many so I am now looking more closely at the T410, Dell Latitude E6410, HP Elitebook 6440w and other machines on the market. It's a shame really.

The other reason I am looking is because frankly many of the i5 and i7 based 14" machines just aren't that fast. Or at least not fast enough for my needs.

The HP 6440w appears to be top of the food chain on features. With a price to match.

 

In thinking about it, I'm not even sure if the x301 is necessary. There's already a 12 inch x200/201, and the 14 inch T410. Then there is the Edge 13, 14 and 15 inch. I just don't see where the x301 really fits into all of that. Plus or minus one inch of screen realestate just doesn't make a lot of difference IMHO.

 

It was necessary before the T400s turned now not so much. But R series is definitely necessary, and it pains me that L series cheapo has taken over.

 

1280x800 on a 12" screen is very different from 1440x900 on a 13" screen. At least it is to me.

 

Still using my X300 every day (including now). I believe the X300/301 was/is a classic laptop --- incredibly well built, portable, and functional (which the Macbook air with one USB port, no ethernet, non-removable battery etc. wasn't). And IMO the slim 13" form factor and 1440 x 900 resolution screen is a perfect balance between useability and size --- it's too bad (as seems all but certain) that the X301 won't be updated to a faster cpu and better graphics...it should be.

 

I completely agree. I've really enjoyed this X300, and like you, think it's the perfect balance for my needs.

 

http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/thinkcentre_software/hd63xz00lmd-a.txt

if you look at this document you can see a reference to a x302 model, a mistake or is there an hope?

 

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this is an error.

 

The X-series are not a regular model line that you should be looking to for regular like for like updates. They are more like a platform used for testing and working out ideas for the next generation T series mass market product.

So there will of course be more x series models but there is no reason it has to be a 13" one. They could drop the 13" X entirely and just stick to playing around with the 12" or formalise the 4-series "s" models as X-series instead.