y510p temperature

Much of the discussion about temperature in the general y510p thread seems to be for SLI-equipped computers. The reviews at LaptopMag.com and NotebookCheck.net also show temperatures for dual-GPUs. Since I am interested in a single-GPU machine, can someone please comment how that would affect the keyboard / bottom / side temps? I currently have a Dell E6410 that feels hot when I use it on my lap (I even rest it on top of a textbook to keep the heat away), so I am afraid that the y510p may be too hot for me.

Has anyone found if a cooling pad, lapdesk, the control panel power management settings, etc. help much? My key factors for considering the y510p are the Full HD (1080p) display, relatively quiet noise levels (I know that's inversely related to how cool it runs), solid keyboard, and relatively high-performance CPU and GPU (I'm not much of a gamer, so they don't have to be top of the line). Although it seems so dated, I am also considering the Dell Inspiron 15R SE because of its high-def display and lower running temps; I also wonder if I'd like the wider keyboard (it doesn't have a numeric keypad, so the main keys can be wider).

Thank you for your insights.

 

Sli or not, it won't change the temp much, reason being is that the sli-gpu is completely independent of the rest of cooling system. The sli gpu may add few degrees at most but that's about it.

I've never used a cooling pad and never will. If a laptop has to have a cooling pad to operate properly, that's a failed design to begin with.

 

Does that mean you don't have a y510p and/or wouldn't buy one from what you've read? I don't get the sense that it HAS to have a cooling pad, but it might help, although not necessarily (e.g., see here and here).

For those of you who have a y510p, can you imagine working with one on your lap for 8+ hours per day doing programming, word processing, and some web surfing? I prefer to work with my computer on my lap while sitting in a Lazy Boy because of my bad back.

 

Im personally okay with the heat, its not as bad as other laptops ive used in the past, and its quiet too.

For the record, Y510p/410p is actually both less hot and less noisy than the MSI GE60.

If you dont want the numpad, get a Y410P, but the only hiccup is that you're losing 1080p (900p isnt bad by all means).

And when i purchased by Y410P, it was either that or the Inspiron 14z. The better specs, lower noise, better keyboard, better sound and equal battery life for the same price made me go for the Y410p. I dont own a 14z, but i *do* own a Ivy-Bridge 17R, if you want me to do a heat test i can.

 

For 14 inch screen, 900p is fine. Actually, Y410p may have even smaller screen due to the massive bezel it has. I know a lot dig FHD but be careful what you wish for. FHD on small screen is a cruse rather than a blessing.

 

Well, I also wonder if I would benefit from the extra screen "real estate" in the y510p for some of my development work, but you and alucasa have given me reason to reconsider 14" options like the y410p. If you're saying you have access to both a y410p and a y510p and can do an apples to apples heat test comparison (or a single-GPU y510p comparison that is analogous to one of the benchmarks from the above SLI reviews), I'd be interested in seeing it.

I'm wondering if I'll just need to bite the bullet and risk potentially having to return the y510p if it's too hot. Some people say it's too hot, some say it's not that bad, and some of the heat test benchmark data doesn't seem *that* directly useful (for my purposes, external temperatures are more relevant than internal temps). Others have also said how hot the MSI GE60 is, but the LaptopMag.com review claims it is actually cooler than the y510p (click through benchmarks 11, 12, and 13 in the chart at the top of the review). I *want* to love it, and I think I'll probably just have to see if it will work for me. That being said, I'll probably wait another day or two before ordering something.

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.

 

FWIW, I used the HWMonitor tool to look at the temps of my Dell Latitude E6410. At the end of the day now, the keyboard is a little warm if you think about it, the air blowing out the vent on the left side is hot, and the bottom feels unbearably hot except for the fact that it's on top of a textbook. Even so, the overall effect is to make my lap warm, sometimes to the point of being uncomfortable. On warm days, I sometimes need to turn on a floor fan. Anyway, after 20 minutes of web surfing, the averages for my two i5 520M cores are 62 and 68 degrees Celsius (max 70 and 75), for my HD it's 44 avg / 44 max, and my NVIDIA NVS 3100M is 75 avg / 90 max.

What has me worried is that my E6410 external temps are about as hot as I can tolerate, and when I look at the y510p numbers at NotebookCheck.net, they're much hotter (see the stress test link there, which is admittedly after running more demanding processes, but still). This user's y410p data makes me think more about that model.

 

In a review of the Intel Core i7-4700MQ processor, NotebookCheck says, "The i7-4700MQ is rated at a TDP of 47 W including graphics card, memory controller and VRMs. Therefore, the CPU is only suited for laptops 15-inches or greater." Is that because there is more room in the case for the heat to dissipate compared to a 14 inch system?

The i7-4702MQ is only 37W according to AnandTech, but there don't seem to be too many 15 inch systems that use it. Could one just change a setting to make the i7-4700MQ run slower and use less power (and thus generate less heat), comparable to the i7-4702MQ? Sorry for my lack of knowledge...

 

The i7-4700MQ, clocked at 2.4ghz is a slightly overclocked i7-4702MQ, clocked at 2.2ghz.

However, an example of what you requested: when you are on power saver mode, the i7-4700MQ underclocks itself to 1.6ghz, essentially lowering it's TDP.

Also, you have to realize that this is somewhat of a gaming laptop, so quad core is a must. And the cooling found in the Y4 series is the exact same as the one found in the Y5 series, so it has no problem with such a CPU.

 

That's because the Y410P lacks SLI (for now), so it wont have the heat of dual cards.

 

I'm considering to buy this laptop, but I'm concerned with its temperatures... By no means I intend to use or game with it on my lap but do the temps get high to a point that might compromise the system's durability??

 

For the the Y410P the max temps. I got were the following:

80C on the CPU & 70C on the GPU (Long gaming periods - Ambient temperature of 28~30C)
48C on the HDD (Copying 600 GB data over lan connection)

You will feel the case getting hot only near the vent & never at the keyboard &/or the touch pad area

For the Y510P I think with the larger casing & "possibly" larger cooling fan the temps should be much lower, hope this helps

 

It's no hotter than your average laptop, and its actually less hot than some MSI/Clevo models. The only part that gets hot is the side vent, the bottom and top are warm at full load but not overly hot.

Only models ive seen with better cooling are ASUS laptops, but bad experiences with product defects and bad customer service and return policy made me never look back on them.

 

I don't know if I can speak for others, but I just recently purchased a y510p with the 750m SLI setup and let me tell you... this thing can get pretty hot. I found this forum because I'm currently running Farcry 3 (a game) and my gpu temps are up in the mid 90's C(200 F) while playing (according to MSI afterburner). Kind of freaked me out because I've played on less powerful computers with the same settings that have not reached these temps. I feel like I can burn myself on the side vent. I have yet to record temps during just standard browsing, but I typically have to place the laptop on something in order to have it on my lap, not necessarily a cooling pad but I end up placing it on books or other things because it will make my lap sweat like crazy if I don't. There is a vent on the bottom of the laptop and if the laptop doesn't make contact on at least two (preferably all 4) of the corner pegs then you end up blocking the vents and the laptop heats up pretty quick. I'm considering getting a cooling pad, because regardless it is an amazingly powerful laptop especially for the price.

 

Exactly. I can't stand all the bullcrap these new Y510p owners keep posting about their supposedly low temperatures. Pics or it didn't happen, and so far nobody has taken me up on my offer to post in-game screenshots of temperatures. The Y500 650M model was already running close to the limit in demanding games, and that was without having to deal with the hotter 4700MQ and 750M found in the Y510p. Before I got a cooling pad and repasted, my CPU was nearing thermal shutdown temperature (105 C) in Battlefield 3 when ThrottleStop was turned on.

 

for all we know they could be gaming right next to their AC lol! i think we should have a thread where every owner would post screenshots of their temps after like an hour of gaming, and whether they're on AC. this would enlighten a lot of us.