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    y580 3630 bios download

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by joviannm, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. joviannm

    joviannm Newbie

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    Cant seem to find (hacked or stock) a BIOS for the Y580 with the i7-3630qm. I can find plenty for the 3610qm but as I found out the hard way they are not compatible. I had a failed flash with the 3610 bios and now get intermittent drive detection.

    So does anyone know where I can find one? Or should I just suck it up and call support?

    Thanks,
    Jovian
     
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    JohnJacob Notebook Enthusiast

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    I didn't know there were different BIOS' for Y580 depending on CPU. (I know the Y580 with Win 8 stock had a different BIOS version number than the Y580 with Win 7 stock, but I figured that was just because of the Win 8 Key. Perhaps all the i7-3630 Y580's come with Win 8 only?).

    What version did you try to flash? What version did you have before the flash?
     
  4. joviannm

    joviannm Newbie

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    From what I have read all the stock Win8 models have the i7-3630qm, so that's what I am using to identify the hardware until I learn more information.

    I flashed the version that's on the website currently: 5DCN39WW. I now understand this is for the earlier hardware. BIOS currently says 5DCN90WW. But I cant be 100% sure that's correct because of the failed BIOS update, though it may be.
     
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    JohnJacob Notebook Enthusiast

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    "Win 8" BIOS is 5DCN89WW(V8.00)
    "Win 7" BIOS is 5DCN39WW

    From what I remember seeing, the Win 8 version had a roll back feature of some sort. It might still be available; take a careful look--you might be in luck!
     
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    I actually tried to order the FreeDOS version of the 3630QM Y580 but amazon Germany cannot tell me when it will be available. The Windows 8 version - which is exactly the same hardware but with Win8 - can be delivered within 24 hours. I am also waiting for a 3630QM Y580 BIOS Hack but so far there is only a hacked 3610QM hacked BIOS version available.

    After being burned by Sony who locked down their VBIOS on their Windows 8 S15 model I'd rather wait until I have confirmation before buying the 3630 Y580. So any news on stock or hacked 3630 BIOSes are very welcome :)
     
  7. joviannm

    joviannm Newbie

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    The people in this forum may be getting close, we will see. Lenovo Y580 / Y480 'unlocked' BIOS versions - Page 13
     
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    tmsmith616 Notebook Enthusiast

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    My bios for my new y580 win 8 is 5DCN90WW(v8.1). Is the bios for msata equipped versions the 5dcn89WW(v8.0)? If so, does anyone have a clue how I might get it? I can't boot from my msata.
     
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    5DCN90WW(v8.1) should handle msata's fine. To boot to MSATA you need to change Boot Made from UEFI to Legacy Support in BIOS. Then move using F5/F6 the MSATA drive above the normal SATA drive in the boot order
     
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    2nd time today I have received this exact advice. It neither makes sense to me nor does it work. Why would I install in legacy and lose the benefits of UEFI? I have a gpt partitioned disk, I have an installer thats designed for secureboot. I have an OS designed for UEFI.
     
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    I have the Win7 Y580, so I don't have 5DCN9xWW. I've upgraded to Win 8 and am using EFI with a GPT mSATA and GPT HDD. No issues.
     
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    I dont know the answer to your questions, I just know thats what was suggested to me and it worked for me.
     
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    Check out how to create the partitions before installing Windows Sample: Configure UEFI/GPT-Based Hard Drive Partitions by Using Windows PE and DiskPart
     
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    tmsmith616 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hmmm . . .Not sure. Some thoughts (may have been suggested/already tried):
    --If you haven't already, consider mSATA latest firmware (or older firmware?).
    --Have only mSATA installed.
    --If it is a Crucial, try that power on, let it sit in BIOS, etc. routine (I know it is for drives that "disappeared")
     
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    tmsmith616 Notebook Enthusiast

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    -There is a firmware update but it has not been made compatible for all uefi systems. I'm not too worried for now.
    -Yes by rule I'm trying to get it to install and boot with only the msata drive in it. Then I'll decide if I want to swap drives with my ps3's 320GB. It really needs it more then my laptop does.
    -I'm confident the drive is working correctly and doesn't need to be power cycled. It still is being recognized across the board. From the bios, to the windows installer, to booting off of my hdd OS. It has no problem formatting and storing data. It just won't boot.

    At this point, the one person I thought had it working on this bios, apparently has the boot manager still working off of his 1TB. He isn't truly booting off of his msata. Nevertheless, its a decent alternative if I have to do it like that but it means I can't wipe the original HDD in order to format a single full drive storage partition. Work is being done on an unlocked bios. I'll be happy to have it too. I hope it unlocks the option to boot with num lock key engaged. I have a full numerical keypad so it should be on by default.
     
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    Quick update on my Post from January 5th. My Y580 was finally delivered by amazon Germany earlier than expected. It's the FreeDOS version one (click my signature for specs) and it still has the old BIOS version. It's currently out of stock but amazon says they will be able to deliver it in 2 to 5 weeks. For anyone who thinks about buying a Y580 and wants to flash a hacked BIOS in order to circumvent Lenovo's stupid hardware whitelist, this might be an option. As I said, it comes with the old BIOS version but you can install Windows 8 without any problems and have the best of both worlds.
     
  18. Acert93

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    I have 5DCN89WW

    Has anyone found a solution to this issue?

    I have a long thread at Anandtech with BIOS screenshots: mSATA SSD (Crucial M4) not showing in BIOS Boot Order (Y580, Win8 64) - AnandTech Forums

    UEFI/AHCI/"Other OS"/Disable Secure Boot/uninstall Intel RST/etc. Nothing works -- the BIOS info page says the M4 is in the mSATA but the boot order won't display it as an option.

    If I go to Legacy and "Other OS" (instead of Windows 8 64bit) it will appear but my Windows 8 recovery does not want to see it (maybe because the drive is GPT instead of MBR?) and the boot sequence doesn't see it (says check cables). I am stuck with the Windows 8 recovery disk on a USB HDD (which, ironically, shows up under the EFI boot sequence!--and the thing is as old as dirt) and have no Win8 standard ISO.

    Any tips or do I need to return the mSATA drive as it is not compatible?
     
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    UPDATE: Solved!

    The TLDR version: I purchased Paragon Disk Copy 12 Professional ($20 on sale) and used the OS to SSD migration tool. It aligned and resized partitions and everything works exceedingly well (7 second boot, 10 seconds to desktop). If not on sale just get the “OS to SSD” software if moving the drive is all you need to do ($20, sometimes goes on sale).

    So I took all the advice I was getting, including Crucials. Initializing via the processes they recommended (what I did previously but I followed their exact steps) did not make the drive selectable by the Boot Order and refused to be seen by Windows Recovery. I went back through and made sure I used the ‘Active’ command in the manual format and partitioning (I had done this but left that out of my notes I posted). Still nothing. I tried switching over to Legacy as Crucial suggested but that posed an issue with getting the data from a GPT drive to an MBR formatted SSD, especially as the Lenovo comes with a default 5 partitions (only 1 with a drive letter). The kicker was they were suggesting a clean instead from an ISO / DVD which Lenovo does NOT offer.

    After some more reading I decided to give Macrium Reflect another go as I believe I did it wrong. Namely I grabbed the wrong partition and left out the EFI data partition. So I moved all 5 partitions this time. Guess what?

    Good News: The SSD was now viewable in the Bios Boot Order!

    Bad News: Windows crashed on start up.

    I was prepared for this as some users have reported issues—Reflect works for some, not for others. (Some claim this is an alignment issue; Reflect’s knowledge base says this shouldn’t be an issue—I may have done something wrong?) I had seen quite a few people who had success with Paragon products, specifically an Amazon.com review of the same M4 mSATA I bought who had the same issues I did, so I decided to give it a chance. I bought the Drive Copy 12 version as it includes the “OS to SSD” tools and seeing as they were the same price (sale) I picked up the more robust software. But all you need is the “Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 3.0” which you have to hunt to find on their site (easier to google it). The rest was very simple.

    # I did the Lenovo One Key Recovery to get the Y580 back into its base configuration.

    # Downloaded all the Windows 8 updates.

    # Made a new recovery drive.

    # I ordered the Paragon Disk Copy software.

    # Downloaded the software.

    # Created the WinPE DVD.

    # Opened Disk Copy and ran the OS to SSD Wizard.

    # Restarted the Y580 and in the BIOS the M4 mSATA was *available* in the Boot Order.

    # Set the M4 as the 1st boot option, moved the HDD to last option, saved, shut down, and removed the HDD.

    # Started and Booted into Windows without any issues.

    A week’s worth of testing and the machine works excellent. No more than 7 seconds to the log in from a cold boot and 10 seconds to the desktop at most. Everything is speed up substantially. The laptop was quick before, but now everything is instantly snappy.

    Thank you for EVERYONE’S help. MUCH APPRECIATED!!

    Clearly I was must have made some disk formatting/partitioning errors along the way; the lack of an ISO / Windows Install made this extra complicated as the Windows recovery could not see the drive (again, probably because I did not format/partition correctly). As being booted into Windows 8 I could see the M4 (just not select it in the BIOS as a bootable drive) I have a suspicion a Windows 8 install disk would have seen the drive without issue.

    Now off to find a reputable guide into what I should, and shouldn’t do, to optimize the system to run well with the SSD and avoid unnecessary wear and tear.