Anyone tried Linux Mint 14 Nadia?

How are MATE and Cinnamon?
In Mint 13, cinnamon was in early devlopment, how does it compare to MATE?
And how is MATE development?

 

I'm running Mint 14 Cinnamon x64. It's been stable for me and I really like Cinnamon's look and texture quality. I think its the best Mint out yet. It ran perfect out of the box, except for 1 small issue with hdmi out.

As for Mate, I haven't tried it since beta.

 

Do you have any experience with Mint 13 Cinnamon?

 

sorry, no i dont.

 

Does it have a LiveCD mode that works on a flashdrive? If so, I might try it out on my X61t. Even though I've disabled all the Amazon and other tracking stuff on Ubuntu 12.10, I'm not exactly trusting of Shuttleworth and I'm thinking of switching over if I can find something that works better than Ubuntu out of the box.

 

I ran the cinammon version for a while and it was fine but for the lack of being able to specify that an app/window opens in a set position/size. If you can live with that it's a great system, but I changed over to Kde as soon as that came out and absolutely love it. Running on both a Samsung N700 gamer laptop and an Acer 1410 like a champ.

 

Yes it does have live CD.

I would recommend Mint 13 (the prev edition). Its a LTS edition, and so focus is on stability, bug fixes, long term support etc. I am on Mint 13 MATE 64 bit(for 5 months now), and have no intention of upgrading to Mint 14. Mint 13 also has live CD.

There are some minor faults in Mint 13 (some due to Ubuntu). One fault, not due to ubuntu, is in MATE: whenever I switch workspaces, it rearranges windows (havent looked into how to fix it). Another is that if I dont reboot every 3-4 days, windows start appearing blank on switching (some X memory issue), and I have to switch windows a couple of times to get the windows displaying properly. But this was to be expected since MATE was newly spawned off.

Hence my interest in how how MATE and cinnamon are being developed by Mint team.

Other than the mentioned faults, its great, excellent productgion environment, all repos of Ubuntu etc available (main repos automatically set). No problem with updates so far. Dual monitors work flawlessly. NVIDIA propriatary drivers work flawlessly.

This is what Ubuntu should have been.

 

Maybe.

I liked the very early versions of Mint a lot. Better than any other distro at the time by a huge margin.

Loss of Gnome makes me far less keen on it, although I'm still using it here and there, but can feel that I'm actually walking away from it...which I really wouldn't have expected just a couple of years ago...

Somewhat on topic, for some odd reason 14 seems to play nicer with old hardware than 13...have yet to figure that one out.

I had Mint 13 on that X61T that is in your possession now and was pleased with the overall experience, then switched to Mint Debian which I liked even more.

Obviously, YMMV.

 

I originally installed Debian Squeeze on the laptop after I bricked my W520's Windows install, though it didn't work out of the box at all with any of the tablet-y features, which I didn't like. Didn't have time to install any of that software (it was 3am in the morning and needed some laptop to take to classes in the morning), so I just grabbed a flashdrive with Ubuntu 12.10 and ran with that.

I'll download Mint 13 overnight, though I won't be able to test it in that X61t as I left that on campus and I'm visiting home for the weekend (brought my W520 instead).

 

You are not using MATE version of Mint? MATE is pretty much Gnome. I have set up my Mint 13 MATE desktop to be exactly how I set up a previous version of Gnome-2 Ubuntu. Same gnome theme too. With Compiz.

 

Nope, I went with Cinnamon.

"Pretty much"...maybe. Wasn't it the mood - and still am not - for tweaking it around too much. After all, I'm just a recreational Linux user.

That being said, if future MS releases continue the current W8 trend, I might just go into Linux full-time...

We shall see...

 

Mint 13 is based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, hopefully it will work well. Otherwise, there is always Mint 14 which is based off Ubuntu 12.10. Hardware support should be the same.

 

If you were to get Mint 14 for a tablet with touchscreen, would you want to use : Mint KDE OR Gnome?
What is the main difference with CINNAMON 1.6 & MATE 1.4 versions on separate DVD Discs?

 

Technically Mint does not have Gnome.

Cinnamon and MATE are different desktop managers.

If you dont have a previous preference for a desktop manager, I would suggest going with Mint KDE.

Cinnamon is new, and MATE is forked off Gnome 2, and AFAIK, not a whole bunch of people working on it. The active development base on KDE is much much larger, and thus my suggestion for Mint KDE.

 

Depends what touchscreen your talking about.
For your H1? I would probably try out the standard version of ubuntu with the unity interface, only because unity would be easy to use on a tablet, or go even lighter on resources and run ubuntu with lxde. ( similar video ).

Or if you can get a copy, try out the new ubuntu tablet OS
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install

 

im using Mint 14 KDE on my desktop and its amazingly rich and customisable. Its so easy to spend hours getting the desktop you want and everything is customisable even silly little things that might bug you. I have it looking and working way better than windows or mac o.s

I also run mint 14 with cinnamon and mate on my laptop, mate is really simple of course and for the low powered old laptop i have at the moment its fine using under 400mb of ram and still looking really clean with some decent albiet simple effects.

the new update of KDE adds animated wallpapers and this is just the cherry on the cake. Id expect with some playing around you could get the desktop to look quite a lot like the PS3 menu system but with more functionality

each to their own. Mint has some great packages pre-installed the benefit of KDE is that its much more windows like when it comes to running software and installing packages.


here are two i made. I have a different look now though its just too much fun playing with KDE





and my steam gaming look

 

Mr. DM, nice to see you again. I didn't know that you are a Linux wizard.

Sorry but I've zero experience with MATE and Cinnamon.

FWIW my Linux desktop (an old Debian setup) got honked quite a while ago (clone then restore to same disk with Acronis only works with NTFS/FAT32 partitions), but the grub part still worked, so I was still able to still get into my old WinXP system. But inspiration struck yesterday, and I ventured forth...

I did a fresh install of Debian 6.0.6-i386 (32 bit), and doggone if that didn't short-circuit the WinXP.

Even better (note sarcasm) the Debian wizards set up their grub such that I couldn't even boot into any other bootable CD or DVD!

But fortunately I know enough to know how to not screw things up any worse than they already are.

Unfortunately nothing worked, other than the new boot into the 6.0.6 Debian.

But I wanted my WinXP back.

Since the NTFS partition was still there, I finally got around to downloading (4.4GB!) the recent 6.0.7 Debian, figuring that they'd have figured out the disaster trap that they'd done with grub.

But I got the same thing with 6.0.7 Debian!

As a last resort, I downloaded the current Ubuntu 12.10 (again 32 bit, but "only" 800MB in size this time (but still needed a DVD to burn it as it just exceeds CD size)), and thankfully that worked; so I now have a working dual boot of Ubuntu 12.10 (32 bit) and WinXP.

Which is the short tale of how when we start off in one direction we sometimes wind up in another.

For others, AVS has a slightly more active Linux forum, and a rather nice thread on Ubuntu (ignore the title as it's actually up to date) at: HOWTO: Ubuntu Lucid 10.04.1/Maverick 10.10 Media HTPC install/setup and MythTV guides

And the author (Rgb) provides a ton of useful links.

Since Mint takes Ubuntu as it's starting point, you might find some of those links useful.

I personally found this ref to a "To Do List After installing Ubuntu 12.10" writeup very current, at: To Do List After installing Ubuntu 12.10 aka Quantal Quetzal Operating System | debianhelp.wordpress.com

 

You can use the "Startup Disk Creator" in Ubuntu to create a Linux Mint Live Flashdrive from any Ubuntu/Mint .iso you want.

I have a Linux Mint 13 Live USB Flash (W/codecs) that I use as an emergency computer. I also plug into my friends computers so they can tinker with Linux and see what it is like. Running a CD is way too slow, and only makes Linux look bad.

Mint w/codecs has all the fun stuff pre-installed, such as DVD player, DVD decrypter, audio codecs, video codecs, flash player, and much more. You plug it in, boot it up, and it's ready to go!

 

Eh, I already loaded up Ubuntu 12.10 on the X61t, though I'm trying out Mint 14 in a VM on the W520 alongside Debian Squeeze.

 

I had Ubuntu 12.10 but hadn't logged in for a while. The system just upgraded me to Ubuntu 13.04 but kept my KDE desktop, not too sure if it upgraded that to latest version yet as I just logged in. I can say I see lower CPU loads and temps with the new version.

I was not too happy with the first version of Ubuntu 12.10 default GUI but again it was early in development. KDE while holding on to legacy type of interface just feels more comfortable and as mentioned is highly customizable. I want to try Mint but am not sure what it will give me over Ubuntu, I am way too early in the game yet too know the differences. I had been out of Linux for far too long...................

 

At least for now I prefer the multiple GUI's. Once I settle on something that will probably change.............

 

I used nadia 14 on my Acer 1810TZ and on my desktop (a celeron G540 server-xbmc machine) and it was good. Now I've upgraded to Mint 15, Cinnamon edition on my XPS and Mate on the server, and once I get my 1810TZ back, it will get the cinnamon edition too.

Although both desktops still need a bit of work (specially cinnamon), they are absolutely usable and I like them both better than Unity or KDE.. I haven't used any Gnome 3 distro, so can't comment with that one.