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    Anyone tried Linux on an MSI laptop?

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    DL season?
    Have you tried tuned-adm profiles? There's a profile for Max throughput, balanced and lot of profiles.
     
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    sa7ina Notebook Consultant

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    DL = DEEP LEARNING ON THE GPU. + misspelled word = Session. my bad.
    And it's just too slow for DL too.
    I use only pre-trained models on the go + machine learning.
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Using Anaconda?
     
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    sa7ina Notebook Consultant

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    Mostly C on the DARKNET Neural Network with YOLO3("You Only Look Once" Best one for object detection if you ask me)
    https://pjreddie.com/darknet/

    And TensorFlow with Python3 for ML.
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ok thanks.
     
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    The things vendors take for granted turn out to be breaking points. Like adequate cooling, for example.
    When I see @Papusan rain hell on BGA filth...this is why.

    I can't even. This scares me. A level of fragility that should be outright illegal on any system at that price point.

    I no longer run any ML-based work on any of the laptops I own. There's a headless Linux based server for that in the basement. running 24/7.
    With SLURM as a job scheduler for long running tasks, tapping into a pair of Tesla P40s.
    SLURM is configured to send emails on job status (on fail, completion, etc). That way, I can log in via ssh, submit a job script, disconnect and only log in again when needed (mostly to correct job parameters when it fails, etc).

    Over time, one accepts that BGA filth is simply BGA filth and you relegate heavy lifting roles to hardware that can do so without triggering a Chernobyl event.

    Yep. If you're in the tropics, the weather is nuts.
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well temps are similar in India too. Its near 40Cs. It is 30C at the time of writing!
     
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    sa7ina Notebook Consultant

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    Had a little time today so i undervolted the CPU (not sure if i should go further).
    So far the system is fully stable.
    I can clearly say the temps are better.
    Not much for the scores though...As you can clearly see here:
    CPU temps dropped dramatically! (I was passing the 90C on all cores!)
    Screenshot from 2019-03-11 20-09-35.png

    Enabled persistence mode for nvidia-smi driver and ready to undervolt it too.
    But...How much?
    We will see soon enough...Dont know what to expect.


    EDIT:
    A second run without undervolt for you to compare:
    Screenshot from 2019-03-11 20-29-41.png


    EDIT2: All CPU temps UNDER 80C = No TT!!!? (Score uncanged)
    Screenshot from 2019-03-11 20-44-41.png
     
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    BOTTOM LINE___ I am recommending this little beast to any LINUX user.

    And probably got a very good CPU sample too. all under 76C on full load! (but this test dont stress the CPU much):
    Screenshot from 2019-03-11 21-21-34.png

    EDIT: (2 minutes stress test 100% CPU)
    Screenshot from 2019-03-11 22-16-10.png
     
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  10. Vasudev

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    You can find GUI for intel undervolt created by luke chadwick https://github.com/lukechadwick/linux-intel-undervolt-gui
    I use xsensors for easy interpretation.
    You can undervolt extra 30-50mV in Linux unlike Windows because Linux is fairly lightweight. With Gnome3 I can't say but on Xfce4.12 I can undervolt by an extra 30mV.
     
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    There's something in CLI simplicity that i just love!
    10X ill try that.
     
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    I like cmd line interface but when you're showing your results, people simply don't care unless its in a GUI.
     
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    Well...People are people i guess.
    Just wanted to help.

    The GUI sends the same commands +bugs ;-)
    Less GUI less trouble.

    The real deal!...Real world use case. (The undervolting helps to keep temps under control)


    The new TENSOR CORES are a complete blast!...A HUGE leap!
    I get on a laptop (under 2Kg) 8 X the FPS i was getting with 1080Ti on a desktop.
    I guess AI in games will improve dramatically as well. ML while gaming will render your opponent invincible!
    Like showed in this video:
     
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    Just installed Ubuntu 18.04 same as i did with 18.10 few days ago because i needed another tensorflow version to run natively.
    I can confirm ubuntu 18.04 have all hardware drivers installed automatically and all working just fine on this msi laptop.
    If it helps...
    Screenshot from 2019-03-17 23-25-15.png
     
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    To this very day, it remains almost unmaintained.

    There's a workaround for this, through the nvhda project, tested on both the Eurocom Q6 and the Asus Zephyrus M GM501GS-XS74.

    This issue is still present. Turns out that these laptops with ESS Sabre DAC amps do need multiple workarounds to address this. Found (some) success with init-headphone , as tested on the P751DM2-G.
    However, that required passing kernel boot options via grub (in /etc/default/grub). Here's what worked:

    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="acpi_osi=! acpi_osi='Windows 2009' blacklist=nouveau elevator=noop quiet splash i8042.reset pci=nocrs pci=realloc acpi_enforce_resources=lax"

    Then running:

    sudo update-grub

    Followed by a reboot.
     
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    etcetera Notebook Evangelist

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    MSI Titan GT80 SLI:

    I run Ubuntu 19.04 - no issues.

    I had issues with Redhat, Fedora and CentOS. I could not at all install RH 7.6.
     
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    MSI Titan GT73VR:

    I run Ubuntu 19.04 as well, never had an issue with fedora other than multiple screen support (with different resolutions) seemed kind of buggy. I heard that's now supposed to be ironed out with version 31.
     
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    You can always try HWE kernels or upstream kernel on Ubuntu or just use bleeding edge Fedora for testing.
     
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    Nowadays I use the the xanmod kernel on Ubuntu 18.04LTS.
    Pretty solid so far.

    Only issue I ran into was compiling the nvidia-440 dkms driver on kernel version 5.4x because of the default gcc version that comes with Ubuntu 18.04LTS. Switching to gcc-8 fixed this.
     
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    I've had really mixed results overall, mostly having to do with the weird additional MSI software. I was on a dual-booting version of Windows / Ubuntu for a while on a GE73 raider 7RE and everything was working reasonably well, but I just shifted over to entirely Mint and some issues are cropping up - mainly 'stuff worked okay when the system had MSI software somewhere on it, but now certain things like the hardware Bluetooth toggle appear to be stuck in the 'off' position.

    I've looked in to a bunch of options, but most of them involve tweaking the RGB, not the actual undocumented fn-whatever toggle that disables the bluetooth. A subset of the fn- keys work (brightness controls, keyboard backlight rgb brightness, touchpad / webcam disabling) but I can't figure out how to turn the bluetooth back on.
     
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    Has anyone managed to get the grub boot commands to work with Ubuntu 20.04. I cannot get any of them to work at all. I am having trouble when my laptop goes into suspended mode that upon waking the wifi card is disabled and Ubuntu is in airplane mode.

    I have seen all the articles over the internet but none of them actually work. Guess it is back to Windows unless someone here knows of a working fix.
     
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