Debian 6.0 Squeeze released!

SQUEEZE HAS BEEN RELEASED! HELP SEED IT IF YOU CAN...

Debian -- News -- Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" released

AMD64:
CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent
DVD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-dvd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent
Netinst: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent
Businesscard: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-businesscard.iso.torrent
KDE CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso.torrent
XFCE+LXDE CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso.torrent
Release notes: Release Notes for Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 (squeeze), 64-bit PC

i386:
CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-CD-1.iso.torrent
DVD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-dvd/debian-6.0.0-i386-DVD-1.iso.torrent
Netinst: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-netinst.iso.torrent
Businesscard: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-businesscard.iso.torrent
KDE CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso.torrent
XFCE+LXDE CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso.torrent
Release notes: Release Notes for Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 (squeeze), 32-bit PC

Worldwide mirrors: Debian worldwide mirror sites

Also the Debian website has gotten an overdue facelift.

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Debian Squeeze 6.0 should be out next weekend, on February 5 or 6, and RC2 is out.

Join us in the countdown to Squeeze | Debian News

 

Debian is never on time.

 

I'm using Squeeze now as my primary desktop...I wish they would update the kernel though...I have to have dma remapping (intel_iommu=on as a boot option) for suspend/hibernate to work, therefore I'm using the Liquorix kernel with that option turned on with it. Very stable though with this set up.

 

I'm using Debian "testing" now which equates to squeeze.

Seems nice, sure is a lot easier to do a base install and get what I want then Arch. The kernel is a bit dated though.

I find myself on an OS soul search. I don't know what to use anymore. I am to the point in my Linux use that I feel the "tinkering" to make things work is becoming a pain. I also sorta know what I want and I am having a hard time finding it. I am really considering rolling my own distro with al the features I want and calling it a day.

It is almost impossible to find:

Something that is easy to maintain without being "dumbed down"
Something that is bleeding edge without the stability issues
Something that I don't have to re-install every 6 months
Something that I don't have to compile for hours on end every time there is a update
A distribution that feels like there is a big enough base that it won't just vanish overnight
Something that gives me complete control if I want it, yet will run fine if I don't
Something that is a community effort and not one mans dream and may disappear if that one man has problems in life/ and or God forbid dies (I was a Libranet user in the day).

I just don't think this exists!

EDIT: Also don't want anything dictated to me. One mans vision does not need to become everyones vision (Unity,Wayward... Who says I don't use X forwarding?).

 

me neither. if you can find anything that fits just this criteria, let me know.

 

I feel your pain....I'm using Saline OS which stays with Squeeze, I guess at the moment it's testing also. That liquorix kernel is pretty great and can solve some functionality issues. You might want to check it out. It's rolled to be compatible with Debian Sid but I speak with the maintainer all the time and it's perfect right now for testing.

 

Arch fits into almost all these criteria, except bleeding-edge point. That's true - from time to time it likes to break something, but some serious damage occurs really rarely.

 

Been using Arch for a good while.

Arch is a great distribution, it just has quirks that are annoying. Like qnome having icons vanish for no reason, volume managers being quirky in any of the *box WMs, constantly having to edit config files to keep the system working, wireless not consistent....etc.

 

Not to put it down for the user, but you don't find Arch or Gentoo running on any (or few) servers or business desktops for a reason.

Best I've found for a stable desktop is Scientific Linux based on RHEL 6...but that's a diff thread altogether

I hate the 'break everything' approach also of many distros /rant

 

IMO non-breaking distro doesn't exist.
Oh, I forgot. It exist. It's called do-not-update.
Tested things won't broke in 99 comps and there always will be 1 broken. 1 little change can have no effect on 9999 apps, but kill 1 app that was depending on something, that got changed/removed.
Even bleeding-edge distros (dunno about the rest, but Arch certainly) have testing repos, so new things do not come "every hour".

 

Not really true.

Debian stable can update without breaking a thing, as well as testing (about 98% of the time). Slackware same, Cent OS same and there are a few others.

The problem is the choice:

Be 100% stable and outdated
Be 98% stable (testing) and still be outdated
Be somewhat up to date and blah (Slack)
Be bleeding edge at the cost of stability, at the same time driving oneself nuts over config files (Arch)
Be dictated what is right for you and close to bleeding edge (Ubuntu)
Be somewhat bleeding edge and dumbed down (PCLOS)
Be somewhat bleeding edge and laggy no matter the hardware (Suse,Mandriva)

There is nothing out there that hits the middle line! Nothing at all!

We need YET another distribution!

 

Just so everyone knows even Debian stable package have bugs. Look at the VLC package not very nice.

 

Yeah, choice, the major linux point

I enjoy customizing my system, so every day config mess is not a hell for me.
If someone want to avoid this, I've got simple solution - update when you have time to clean up some mess (eg. once a week, twice a month etc).

 

This is why I run Debian Sid with a vanilla kernel on my PCs (not servers). It breaks occasionally but for the most part is very solid and up to date. There have been hairy situations, and I tend to keep my own cache of .debs in case something really breaks badly. Sometimes I'll have to pull things in from experimental (or incoming), but it's pretty unusual. I also use the debian-multimedia repo.

Running Debian stable with backports and debian-multimedia is a great way to get a smoother ride, even if it's not exactly bleeding edge.

I can't wait to update my servers to Squeeze, but it'll be some time before I get the chance to read over everything and do the dist-upgrade.

 

In bold. (filler)

 

Slackware current is what I run when I run it, so it is somewhat up to date.

As far as Arch goes, I don't do it wrong...??? I have been using Linux for a long time and know how to run a system. System updates can screw up many config files as well as kernel updates requiring tender care to make the most of the system.

Suse and Mandriva tend to be bleeding edge on release (like most do).

Suse and Mandriva are for the newcomer to Linux and gear the system in that matter. When one is used to using Fast distributions (Slack,Debian,Arch...) those two are most certainly laggy out the box. Of course one could tweak as I have done but would never reach the level of speed of the more customizable distributions.

 

@corbintechboy:
Ever tried Aptosid (formerly Sidux)?
It's mainly Debian Sid but with an additional quality control. So, yes it might still break but it turns "sometimes" into "rarely".

I used Sidux for 2 years when I was still a Linux beginner. There were some issues, but nothing that I couldn't fix with some reading and my by then very limited knowledge.

 

I would disagree. Arch don't mess configs by itself. Every time pacman is updating x package, instead of replacing/changing config file, it's creating new file <cfg name>.pacnew, so you can manually diff cfgs and update if something important changed. You just need to read pacman output or type sudo find | grep .pacnew in root directory and you will be sure what to do.
Kernel thing - as I said before - they are heavily tested before they go to normal repos, so if you run stock Arch kernel, you should be fine after every update.

 

In my many years of playing with Arch I have run into some nightmares.

Kernel updates depreciating hardware, updates changing something to the point that an old config don't work, small program structure changes that some programs no longer understand and having to "ln -s" a whole bunch of programs to work (this is mainly stuff self compiled).

On the surface and for short times, Arch is really stable (for the most part). When we start talking years of use things can break and break bad.

I will check out Aptosid thanks for that.

 

You are right in point of long term support in Arch - I'm not long term Arch user, just 7 months, so I've never run into issues connected with compatibility, but I'm pretty sure that every distro can fail in those situations. Even RHEL sometimes, but really rarely, changes it's stuff for newer versions, so it can break due to compatibility differences.

 

@Fulcrum83

There's a thread for Ubuntu here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/linux-compatibility-software/451594-asus-rog-g73-ubuntu.html

I posted my experiences with Debian on page 4: http://forum.notebookreview.com/lin...451594-asus-rog-g73-ubuntu-4.html#post6897349

I'd be happy to help you when I can if you have any problems. It's pretty straightforward except for patching the touchpad. There's also a new patch to ALSA for the subwoofer, which I was unable to try because it came out after I sold my G73.

 

Debian Squeeze is being pushed to the mirrors right now.

 

Yep.. I'm seedin' ... There's progress announcements on http://identi.ca/debian

AMD64:
CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent
DVD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-dvd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent
Netinst: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso.torrent
Businesscard: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-businesscard.iso.torrent
KDE CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso.torrent
XFCE+LXDE CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso.torrent
Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/amd64/release-notes/

i386:
CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-CD-1.iso.torrent
DVD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-dvd/debian-6.0.0-i386-DVD-1.iso.torrent
Netinst: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-netinst.iso.torrent
Businesscard: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-businesscard.iso.torrent
KDE CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso.torrent
XFCE+LXDE CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-6.0.0-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso.torrent
Release notes: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/release-notes/

Worldwide mirrors: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list

 

I'm using Saline OS which stays with Squeeze, so already got it....Squeeze just now hit DistroWatch

 

OT:

How are you liking SalineOS? I was thinking of giving it a spin.

 

It's really great, actually. To me it's a coin toss for LMDE or SalineOS....depends if you want to stay with Testing for LMDE or Squeeze for SalineOS.....the dev is backporting Xfce 4.8 for Saline now and many apps to keep them updated. Although I'm using gnome with it.

 

Anyone install or upgrade to Squeeze? Any issues?

I'm still waiting on my server upgrades, maybe for another week.

BTW I'm seeding all of the torrents I linked.

 

No problems here. I ran Squeeze for about 4 months now and I didn't know about the release until I read the news. Which was after my latest dist-upgrade.
But I've heard from someone who has problems with the i386 installer that he didn't have with amd64. So it's most likely not related to the removal of non-free firmware from the kernel.

 

Does Squeeze support the older Intel 855GM graphics chips?

I am vaguely aware that there have been problems with Intel graphics (not just Sandy Bridge but the older chips) for some time but as I've remained on an old 2.6 kernel I didn't worry about it until now.

PS I missed the news about the Lenny release and it was only in the final months when Debian announced stopping support for oldstable that I had to upgrade.

 

Yes it does, all of the supported chips can be found here:
Intel Linux Graphics: Documentation

The default is to use KMS (kernel mode setting) now. If this doesn't work for some reason, you can pass the nomodeset boot parameter.

KernelModesetting - Debian Wiki

 

Thanks, although when I think of supported I mean works properly. If I had to resort to using a kernel switch, I would consider that a step backwards from the driver that I am using.

 

I didn't say it was required. I was giving you more info than you need, just in case. Good luck.

 

'Groceries.....does Squeeze still not contain wireless microcode? i.e. do I need to have it handy for an install? (or a cable?)

EDIT: NM....I've already got the .deb on a flash disk.

 

Yep that was one of the main bullet points for the release, there's no non-DFSG microcode in the kernel. You can either dump the microcode .deb onto a usb stick, or use one of these images: Index of /cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware

 

thanks....got it on a stick I just hate offline installs....idk.....haha

What's the best repo to use to upgrade to a more current KDE?

 

Unless you're going to mix squeeze with wheezy I have no idea.

 

Ok...I know of a semi-official repo for that.....have to find it though....I'll check debian forums

I'm keeping SalineOS as my main OS, but have a spot for another (OEM) Squeeze install

 

OEM. lawlz, I wish. Where's my preloaded debian lappy?!

Did you find that KDE repo?

 

hehe....yes I did....I'm looking around Debian Forums for KDE tips etc also....Squeeze comes with 4.4.5 which is "OK", but 4.5 squashed many bugs...I'll see....

 

Zoid, I just noticed there was word of 4.6 showing up sometime around early March:

squeeezy - wheezy ready for development

Debian Qt/KDE semi-official package repository

 

Awesome...that will work

 

Finally getting to do my server squeeze upgrades today... w00t!

Also I forgot to post the live image torrents. Those are here:
64 bit: Index of /cdimage/release/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid
32 bit: Index of /cdimage/release/current-live/i386/bt-hybrid

At the moment I'm only seeding the AMD64 gnome image.

 

I'm going to have to stop seeding these at some point. But before I do I thought I'd take a screenshot showing how much I've uploaded as a sort of non-scientific indicator of how popular the various images are. They have all been seeding for the same amount of time.

Just thought it might be interesting, hehe.

Edit: I ended up seeding until the very end of the release (actually a bit past it, as you can see from all the red below). Here's the updated screenie.