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    Flash using very high usage in linux

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by wearetheborg, Oct 18, 2008.

  1. wearetheborg

    wearetheborg Notebook Virtuoso

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    In all my linux installs, flash seems to take much higher CPU usage in linux. As a result, the videos play choppy/and or I cannot watch it full screen. It really sucks for watching shows on hulu, too much choppiness in full screen mode, and this is with a core duo 2.0 Ghz cpu

    is there a solution or is it just that adobe does not like linux ? :(
     
  2. the.a1p2s

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    I think the latter. You could try Gnash - but then again reliability is thrown out the window.
    How are you running Flash is it through a web browser or is there a stand-alone client?
     
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    Amranu Notebook Consultant

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    Try flash player 10
     
  4. wearetheborg

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    Running it through firefox/opera.


    I just tried flash 10 - seems to be better cpu wise, but makes my firefox browser freeze.
    Full screen works on opera, but video still plays choppily (though better than before).
     
  5. Bog

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    I have had this annoying problem for years, but I don't think its going to be solved any time soon. Gnash doesn't work half the time and Adobe is the only other major flash app available to Linux users.
     
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    Gnash did not compile on my system, it needed some other packages, so I gotta wait till Iupgrade my distro (its SLED 10, and not many packages available).


    Flash 10 seems to be better though, I think CPU usage has dropped by 80%; but still way behind windows flash.
     
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    Flash 10 works pretty well for me on my machine. You're using Gentoo right? You need at least Firefox 3.02 to utilize Flash 10 properly because that version fixes something.
     
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    Bog Losing it...

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    Does it lower the CPU usage, Calvin? I wouldn't mind so much if I wasn't running it on my T42, which has an aging Pentium M.
     
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    Yup, it lowers it. I just won't be able to give you a definitive amount though. Check ArsTechnica for that.
     
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    I'm using SLED 10, and the latest verison of firefox.

    Bog, I think it does reduce CPU usage. Earlier my CPU usage would be 50% on hulu video. Now its like 30%.

    But it still maxes out when on full screen.
     
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    I think I might have Adobe flash ver10 since I recently reinstalled Ubuntu using reiserFS, but I haven't noticed. Thanks for the info, guys.
     
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    Bleah. Personally I just leave flash uninstalled, I can live without anything wrapped in a proprietary format from a closed-source company.

    I *did* install gnash in my latest Ubuntu update. Kind of a mistake. Web browsing is so much more pleasant when all those flash ads are missing. I leave it disabled now.

    And yes, for the record, it chewed up a lot of CPU on my machine before I disabled it. Seems like gnash spawns a new process for each SWF object embedded in a page; I saw something like 12 gnash processes running on one particular web site with a bunch of ads. My CPU temp shot to the roof and everything slowed to a crawl, it was really annoying until I disabled the plugin.
     
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    Hmmmm have been researching with no real leads (although there are lots of variants to this problem). It seems that Adobe just don't really bother with Linux....
     
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    Adobe have released a .deb package for Flash 10; linky
    I just read about it on the Mint forum ( adobe-flashplugin replaces flashplugin-nonfree).
    Cheers.
     
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    Too bad they still don't have 64bit support
     
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    They probably still have 8-bit code in there, I wouldn't expect them to go 64bit for a long while. Flash is old.
     
  18. wearetheborg

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    We need something more efficient than flash. Is there a reason why the flash format cannot be improved ? I see movies full screen with hardly any cpu consumption locally.
    The same video viewed on flash on a tiny window takes up 40% cpu on a core duo 2.0Ghz :mad:
     
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    Flash can be improved by throwing it out. The only reason to embed videos in flash is to prevent you from saving a local copy of the stream. (which is stupid, since there are plenty of free tools to extract the embedded stream from the flash data too.)

    Just Say No.
     
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    New Adobe Flash 10 solved problems for me at least in Linux Mint 5. In Mandriva Linux One 2009 problem stayed (high CPU usage) :(.

    Problem with high CPU usage is well known for Adobe, just like high memory usage of Adobe Reader...
     
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    The problem is that Flash doesn't use video acceleration techniques like your local media player does. It's purely an issue with the way that the Flash player is implemented, and not with the actual file format or what it's trying to do.
     
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    Is there a reason why video acceleration cannot be used with flash ?
    Or does adobe just likes CPUs :confused:


    Can u now view flash videos full screen in mint 5 ?