From now on - Run Linux natively from Windows

Already posted to the Windows thread, but this one by definition needs to go here too, with some edits. Some may know about andLinux, but those who don't, here it is:

"andLinux", http://www.andlinux.org/.

Runs from Vista/XP with *native* speed. For a great fraction of uses, it eliminates the need for dual boot.

The KDE package with COFS file sharing has left the most positive impression on me after 3-day use.

Some people (like me) MUST use Windows because of Win-only programs required for profession. Alas, the very same people sometimes meet a Linux app they MUST use. Here's the long-awaited solution. This is clearly the beginning of a practically useful merger between the OSs.

Many thanks to the Linux and andLinux community.

 

I can see how this might be useful, but I don't like the idea. Let Linux be Linux and Windoze be Windoze.

 

Why don't you like the idea, apart from religious feelings?

Think of the history of hybrid cars. It turned out to be a major market.

 

Well, you seem to be rather combative. I hope you're not trying to troll.

I like linux and prefer it over any other OS that I have tried. I appreciate, amongst other things, its simplicity and non-assumptive nature, qualities that a hybrid andLinux system would not have.

 

I am often combative Here I am combative against the "convert to Linux or get lost" attitude (here I don't mean anyone in this thread).

The hybrid OS is beautiful for cases when one physically can't have Linux as the primary OS.

 

Hi alekkh,
Thanks for postng this.
Out of curiosity, what's the Linux app you just have to use?
Cheers.

 

Or...run Windows within Linux! Amazing!
Check out WINE or VirtualBox. No need to dual boot!111#@3

 

*The whole point* is that andLinux is not running in a virtual box.

Linux running in virtual boxes (Qubuntu for example) runs at, optimistically, 1/10 the speed of andLinux.

 

Most recently, CNS_solve and XDS.

 

madness madness

 

thats a pretty cool idea

 

This is old stuff, Ubuntu had this before April.

 

We can do the same using Ulteo too


Ubuntu Running on top of Windows Vista Ultimate x32

 

Doesn't matter when andLinux came around. It was not mentioned here before, AFAIK.

 

I personally like the idea of andLinux. I don't see myself ever actually using it, (the very thought makes me shudder) but I admire the idea behind it. It is these sorts of projects that embody, more than anything else, the neighborly, sharing spirit of the community that has made linux great.

Considering how members of the open source community are working so hard to make linux applications available to Windows users, it would be wonderful indeed if Microsoft would extend a similar courtesy.

 

Precisely.

And there's no better way to grab attention of the Windows crowd.
Linux community has been doing some things the wrong way for a long while. Hence 1% of the market share. How ridiculing Windows along with providing ten-page start up guides full of sudos apt-get installs and other command lines *for newbies!* was supposed to look compared to the pure GUI driven Windows?

My impression is that coLinux and, especially, andLinux, due to its delivery of instant gratification, may serve very well to popularity of the Linux OS in the long run.

 

Agreed. Everyone needs to drop the attitude. And yes, calling Windows "Windoze" too.

The way people try to convince others to use Linux reminds me of how my friends tried to get me to watch Battlestar Galactica instead of Star Trek: TNG.

"Star Trek sucks, watch BSG instead. I've seen TNG and a little of Voyager before, and it's not really good."

I deleted my folder of BSG episodes after that. You don't try to convince someone to switch by insulting their OS of choice.

[/rant]

 

Yep, Ulteo is pretty cool....founder is original Mandriva partner...I may do this just to get away from Outlook in Vista

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. I mean Linux is great and I prefer it over Windows but trying to convince others to use it by insulting their OS of choice is unnecessary.

On-topic, the good thing about Linux is that there is no worry of viruses and other malicious software but having Linux run INSIDE Vista, would it not take away that advantage?

 

Interesting tips here. I'm currently running Xandros Linux through Microsoft's Virtual PC Software.

 

I wonder what the speed is like. Do you see any lag compared to native Linux?

EDIT
nevermind, here's a good reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines


Looks like coLinux/andLinux is pretty much the only free way of having Linux with Native speed in Windows.

 

I'll admit it isn't all that great. I don't have it set on the maximum amount of memory yet, and I notice slight pauses from time to time. I'll have to increase the MB on this Linux session to see how accurate it becomes.

 

I just read wikipedia on Virtual PC - not too bright.

 

Then you didn't search for it.

 

I don't count* "hits" that return multi-page threads with the key word buried somewhere inside them (in your example on page #8).


*In this case, a "side notion" becomes a standalone topic. For the sake of future forum searchers...

 

Wow, thanks for the suggestion! I am downloading right now. I think this is impressive. I love Ubuntu, it's a fun little Operating System It's not really ready for mainstream for all people.

I don't mind dual-booting either, but don't like confusing others that might need to use my computer from time to time. I like some Linux applications and did use it exclusively for about a month. It did the job, but lower battery life (but not by that much, it's getting better) and certain Windows applications made me switch back to Vista.

Thanks!

 

This is Pretty cool
But it does take away much of what I love about Linux...
Compiz, customization, virus free, I control my OS, I run it on my Desktop with just 256mb ram and I do some desent multitasking with that...
Lets see vista even run on that... Without even a program running..., And so much more
So basicaly all this does is let you use Linux apps on windows? Most of them are for Windows anyways cause there Open Source
But still good idea

 

Surprise no mention of Wubi.

 

I thought one can't run WUbi at the same time with Windows.


What about WUbi in this real life scenario:

one needs to attach a freshly generated Linux log file to an email being sent from Windows, all without rebooting?

 

Alright man,

You gave us another option "andlinux" but stop trying to preach it to us like its the right religion or something.

You might prefer andlinux for what you do but the majority are just fine dual booting.

In the end its all about choice, your entitled to yours as others are to theirs. You can provide your opinions and choices but you cant enforce them upon the community.

So thanks for the thread, you enlightened people about andlinux. Now please move on

 

In that case VMWare.

 

Puzzled by the tone of the post.

Anyway, thanks for contributing your thoughts, if I am allowed to speak anymore

 

you know, maybe i will be able to run conky on vista now o_o
its worth a shot.

 

i use vmware to run windows at 'native' speed, i don't know the performance penalty but its definitely not 1/10. maybe 20% hit for most stuff.

i prefer running the thing in a secured box to prevent entropy related problems. combining OS's seems problematic. i just imagine that it would be glitchy...

i do like the end user experience of having all my windows together though, and a unified clipboard.

 

Hello Folks,

User dependancies will define the OS.
As for myself... What the heck do I do with this VistaHE DVD... lol