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    Getting started on Linux

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by Clutch, Feb 14, 2010.

  1. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    Last night I installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and now I think I want to uninstall it...

    But that is not a bad thing. The reason for that is because I wish I got 64bit.

    I looked on Ubuntus website and I could not find the 64bit version, can someone point me in the right direction?

    If I am to use 64bit are there other things/programs that dont work or cause problems that would not make 64 bit worth it?

    How can I see the rest of my harddisk while in Ubuntu? Do I have to get another app. for that or I am looking in the wrong place?

    When using it last night I was trying to get plash to work and I got it to work on Firefox but it would not work on Chrome. I went to Adobes website and saw there were 4 different versions of flash, then I came to realize I did not even know which one to use... any assistance?

    Rob
     
  2. Th3_uN1Qu3

    Th3_uN1Qu3 Notebook Deity

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    Erm, how could you not find the 64-bit version? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download Click Alternative Options and there ya go. :)

    As for your other questions, take a little time to look it over and you'll find what you need. I didn't have any trouble with 64-bit, it's just that Linux doesn't cater to my needs (low-latency audio and half-decent fonts), that's why i stopped using it.
     
  3. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    Thank you, I am downloading it now.

    Should be done in less then 5 minutes :D
     
  4. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    What version of flash should I install?

    YUM
    ,tar,gz
    rpm
    deb 8.04
    APT 9.04

    What are the differences?

    Is there a good 64 bit anti virus?
     
  5. Th3_uN1Qu3

    Th3_uN1Qu3 Notebook Deity

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    From bottom to top, you won't need an antivirus under Linux. Hell, i don't need one under Windows either.

    The flash version you should install is APT 9.04.
     
  6. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    hmm, it would not install...

    Adobe flash 10 says not available for you hardware architecture. Does that mean 64bit?
     
  7. green98ls

    green98ls Notebook Geek

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    since you;re using Ubuntu 9.10, just go to the Applications menu, click Ubuntu software center, and search for "flash" it should come back with the Adobe Flash plugin that you can download and install
     
  8. Lithus

    Lithus NBR Janitor

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    There's no 64-bit Flash player. You can hack it to work, but last time I tried, I couldn't get audio to work correctly.
     
  9. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    Bummer, looks like I will re install again tomorrow.

    3rd times a charm
     
  10. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

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    just install flash from the repo....will work fine.
     
  11. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    Well I re installed 32bit and it is chugging along just fine, I think I am going to stick with it now.
     
  12. turqoisegirl08

    turqoisegirl08 Notebook Evangelist

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    Here is the link to the 64-bit version--> Click here.

    Click on the black line that says, "Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for Windows." The space under that line will expand revealing a link to a variety of download options.

    For Flash. If you ever decide to go back to 64-bit go into Synaptic Package Manager and type "Flash" into the quick search box there.

    Tick off "flashplugin-installer" and "flashplugin-nonfree." I've left those both installed and it's working fine on my T400 running 64-bit version of Karmic.

    YMMV as I've been finding out that Linux is somewhat hardware specific and will either be wonderful or drive you crazy. Good luck.

    Edit:

    Reread my post and just wanted to clarify what I meant by "tick off." I meant enable for installation.
     
  13. Th3_uN1Qu3

    Th3_uN1Qu3 Notebook Deity

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    It's not necessarily hardware specific, but it does have hardware specific bugs. :p
     
  14. helikaon

    helikaon Notebook Consultant

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    No reason not to go 64bit.

    - yum, apt etc you asked about are different types of package managers used to handle installations of packages - two most used are:
    apt (command apt-get) in debian and its derivations - like *buntu and many others distributions, packages have extention .deb (like freetarder.deb)
    yum (command yum install) in RHEL (red hat enterprise linux) and SLES (suse linux enterprise server) its derivations - fedora, centos, opensuse and many others, packages have extention .rpm (like freetarder.rpm)

    -there is 64b flash, still beta version (but working better than 32b on linux):
    If you got 64b browser (u can find out in menu 'help' -> about mozilla firefox)
    e.g I got:
    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20100107 Fedora/3.5.6-1.fc12 Firefox/3.5.6 => i got 64b browser.

    then you go:
    download 64b flash (so far beta, but hey 64b )

    http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html
    save where you like and run terminal

    cd /dir/where/u/saved
    tar -xzvf libflashplayer-10.0.42.34.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz (the name might differ, if they offer newer version to download)

    you got only one new file from it:
    libflashplayer.so

    now:
    cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins

    Now restart firefox, enjoy youtube :)

    - as for other sw troubles on 64 - not likely (except maybe 64b java - it depends on distro)

    - also, you need a bit of patience, linux is not windows, it's clean new start. Imagine you saw windows first time, i bet, you had no clue (like me and others) what to do and how the hell to do
     
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    To access the rest of the h ard drive go to places and then click on the hard drive.
     
  16. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    I did the install inside of windows so I can see my C drive but because I installed on my D drive (more space) I can not see my D drive.

    ps. I get better battery life with Ubuntu then Vista.
     
  17. Th3_uN1Qu3

    Th3_uN1Qu3 Notebook Deity

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    If you take the time to optimize it a little it'll get even better. That's the one thing i really appreciated under Linux - power management has improved a lot in the past couple years, and the use of GPU acceleration for movies. I could downclock my CPU to 400MHz and still play 720p videos without a hitch. MPlayer FTW. :D
     
  18. Little_Ho

    Little_Ho Notebook Geek

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    I am on Ubuntu since 8.4 i think. So far only complain for me is that Firefox works great at times. running Opera side by side with Firefox all good again....lol
    Took me a while to get into all that but after you get used to it and set it up the way you like it its actually great. I run it of my Dell XPSM1210 C2C 2GHz and 3GB Ram
    LOVE IT
     
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    Good for you Little Ho....once you get used to it, Windows becomes so so boring...I've even moved all my work over to Linux...
     
  20. Clutch

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    Is there a way to view my D drive even though I installed Ubuntu in Windows on that drive?
     
  21. Little_Ho

    Little_Ho Notebook Geek

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    you want to see that D partition from Linux or windows?

    In Windows you need to find the ext extension so Windows can see it.
    I used to use http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html it will work with ext2 and ext3. for ext4 i am pretty sure you can find something with google....

    another good source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203951
     
  22. Clutch

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    I would like to see it from the Linux side.
     
  23. helikaon

    helikaon Notebook Consultant

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    Hi there,
    i'd like to help you, but i don't know much about you environment.
    1. how's your *buntu installed? dual boot? through virtualbox or other vm? or did you install it somehow 'inside' windows? if it's last choice, i can't help much since i never did it that way (i consider that obscene) :-D
    2. if it's first two choices, can you post here output of
    fdisk -l
    cat /etc/fstab
    ?
    gl&hf :)
     
  24. Clutch

    Clutch cute and cuddly boys

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    I have to do it inside windows because it is a school computer so I am limited in the setup.

    So basically it is "in windows".

    I could move it to my C drive so I could see my D drive where all my data is but then I would have to re install (4th time in 5 days). But my C drive is full of programs I can't move.

    And at least it is better then booting off the CD ;)
     
  25. ALLurGroceries

    ALLurGroceries  Vegan Vermin Super Moderator

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    The rest of the windows partition should be accessible from /host or /media. If not, run sudo fdisk -l to find your windows partition's name and then sudo mount to see if it is mounted somewhere else. If not, you can mount it with sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdXN /mnt where X is the letter of the drive and N is the partition number.
     
  26. Clutch

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    yea, I can see the C drive.

    To show you were I am at in Linux knowledge, this makes no sense to me :eek:
     
  27. helikaon

    helikaon Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,
    post here the requested output of :
    fdisk -l (l for 'list') so we can see what/how your *buntu see ..

    Anyway, if you can install on your computer, perhaps, another (and perhaps better) option would be to install through the virtualbox. In VB you can install then as many OSes as you like and you can run them simultaneously (depends on your RAM). So eg. you have your host OS (windows) than the VB that acts as middleware and give access to HW resources (cpu, ram ...) to your 'host' OSes.

    Anyway, for 'mount' the linux doesn't use the windows way to access hdds and partitions. Linux doesn't mount partitions as C,D,E,F ... drives but mount them to folders. Some folders are OS specific and defined (like /home, /usr, /var ....) and some are user created.
    so e.g
    if you have one hdd with 2 partitions, windows see them as C:\ and D:\, while linux see them as /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2

    if i go on with this example your second partition is 'data' and your windows see it as D:\, then in linux you can mount it
    -automatically - (like windows does) if you have corresponding row stating that in your /etc/fstab file or
    - you can mount it by hand like (e.g.):
    1. create mountpoint (folder where you're gonna mount it) like
    mkdir /ntfs
    and then:
    2. mount /dev/hda1 /ntfs
    3. cd /ntfs
    4. ls -al -> now you see list of files/folders of your 'data' seen as D:\ in windows .......

    this is why we need to see the fdisk output - to know how your hdd devices is seen in linux, because it could be like
    /dev/hda1 for IDE disks
    /dev/sda1 for SATA or SCSI disks ..... etc etc

    :)