Give me one reason to keep Ubuntu.

Oh goody, reinstalling for the 20th (yes) time now!

Give me one damn reason to keep this piece of ****, or I'm going back to Vista.

 

If you don't like it, get rid of it. Doesn't make a difference to me if you don't use it. Why should we convince you to use it? We've convinced you to try it, but we can't hold a gun to your head to ensure you keep using it.

Linux is about choice. One of your choices is to not use Linux.

 

I have been exactly where your at, but I'm stubborn.

I'm glad I haven't given up on it, Ubuntu is very much worth the Trial & Error.

 

Don't then.

 

Yeah your right. Trial and error. It just gets frustrating sometimes.

 

Why the heck would you reinstall Ubuntu 20 times ?

Try some new distro, Mandriva, or Open Suse or SLED 10 or any of the million other linux distros.
Its free

 

I think Linux is utter bollox, people try to be different and cope with it, just go back to Vista and life will be so much easier.

I've run a few version of linux on this laptop, and to have to open a console and type sudo bla bla bla is just...backwards.

 

When did you run Linux, two years ago? Thanks to Ubuntu, you don't have to touch the command line if you don't want to.

FWIW, I think Vista is utter bollocks, people try and be cool and have the latest piece of junk, just go back to using a decent OS like XP or Linux.

If you can't/don't want to use Linux, then use OS X, or Vista, or XP, or whatever you like.

I don't use Linux because I want to be different. Being different is just a by-product. I use Linux because I like it, and it's easier for me.

Now, see how useless our posts were?

 

I feel handicapped in wiindows when I dont have access to a console and a bash shell.
Typing is usually easier, its predictable, and much easier to manage than pointing the mouse here and there, dragging down menus, double clicking etc.

 

One good reason?

Ubuntu is the up and coming open source OS. Even Dell is preparing to offer it on their desktops.

Every software will have some sort of shortcomings and flaws. No software is perfect (let alone hit 99.9% . Just live with it and see future improvements.

 

There absolutely no reason for you to keep this piece of **** if you refuse to change your life from MS slave. You've asked much but solved less in here. You have proved yourself that you are not with Linux. This happened to others too. Some people like to marry with one OS happily ever after, and they do.

Just drop it.

 

On my 8th install of Ubuntu, but that's because MediaDirect wont play nice every time, so I finally just got rid of MD!

But, I feel your pain, but I do love it so far. Dual booting Ubuntu and Vista. Only using Vista for games and outlook for the moment untill I try out Wine and Evolution. Or maybe another email client, haven't decided.

Good luck with your decision!

 

If you don't like it, don't keep it. You have problems with it, and it happens for some people. I'd rather sit at a console for an hour figuring out my problem than watch Windows needlessly slow to a crawl or disable parts of my system for no apparent reason. I'd rather deal with compiling a few programs from source or having to find special drivers than have my computer refuse to work for installing Daemon Tools. I'd also rather deal with some incompatible programs than deal with viruses and spyware every other day. But hey, that's me. It's not for everyone.

I'm sure you were expecting us "Linux zealots" to preach to you over and over again about how you should give it another try or how you should never go back to Windows or whatever. But the truth is, we really don't care what you do. We're not in any kind of popularity contest or anything; we're simply choosing to do things a (in our opinion) better way and trying to make it easier on ourselves by getting more people along. But we can only show you the door; you have to walk through it. And if you don't want to, well, that's your choice. The world will keep spinning, and Ubuntu will keep evolving and gaining more users. Losing one doesn't matter much when you gain 10 more to take his place.

 

No need for convincing. Computers are all about productivity so if you can't be productive using UNIX/Linux, move back to Windows.

As crazy as it sounds, these forums are loaded with geeks and a lot of them (I mean us) actually like reinstalling our OS.

 

Ugh. I'm a pretty hardcore geek (I've got a custom BIOS on my laptop, if that's an indication), and I hate reinstalling my OS. I don't mind upgrading or tweaking, but I hate reinstalling. There's pretty much no reason to do so if you take care of your machine correctly, though.

 

And that's what I love about Linux. I can pretty much fix any problem I ever get, even with beta software (such as when I was testing Feisty and my graphics drivers were broken). All it takes is some know-how and searching, but the open nature means I have complete access to the system to correct whatever went wrong and that I can find it. Windows... no so much. I can't tell you how many times I've reinstalled XP, which is pretty much an all day event.

 

we dont need to convince you to do anything. we dont get paid to help make you like linux.

we use linux because we like it. we like what it offers, and choose it over or with other OSes.

if your not happy with it, then by all means move on.. just remember this: you will be back.

 

Really? See, I've installed XP exactly once on my laptop. And that includes switching the Windows key, installing a new hard drive, resizing the partitions, experimenting with many different software packages, etc. I've found that it can be a usable OS. I just hate using it when everything is so much prettier and easier under Linux.

 

Besides, you can still control everything still in command line. What else can windows do with GUI?

 

I've honestly never had problems with microsoft XP. I'm not a total geek, and I'm not completely clueless. The things I use a computer for - web, games, school, programming, p2p sharing - work fine on XP. And there are no compatibility problems.

Why do you use linux? Because you don't want to be an "MS slave?" Welcome to life; you go to dunkin donuts, wear A&F, drive a car (on gas from exxon), search with google, etc. Even if you do use linux and oh, "beat the system," you're still very much feeding all the big brand names out there, you just think you're special because MS isn't getting your $300 for Vista.

That wasn't meant to be rude. I just see a lot of double standards in this and I don't really get why you don't like microsoft. I'm actually open to using linux - and I have - i just dont see why.

 

I don't know about you, but I use Linux because:
1) It's usable and comes loaded with apps that I'd need to pay hundred of dollars for on Windows.
2) I don't have to worry about spyware and viruses corrupting my files on a regular basis.
3) The "coolness" factor (yeah it goes away after a while... but it always feels cool to use something that most of your friends don't use)
4) It's FREE! (and everything else loaded on it is free)

I still use MS products when things don't work 100% the way I want them to in Linux, but for the most part, I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of Windows compatibility for Linux stability.

 

I don't eat donuts, I wear whatever comes at a good price at places like Target that I feel have a bit of a social conscience (as compared to Wal-Mart), and I do drive a car, but it gets very good mileage, search with Google because it gives me what I want without doing anything seriously objectionable that I'm aware of.

I don't use Linux to "beat the system", I use Linux because I have no desire to buy into a company that treats their customers as thieves by default, that locks people into a non-interoperable format with their Office software while claiming that it's "open" because they document it by saying things like "Works like Word95" rather than specifying behavior, takes standards and bastardizes them, and generally does everything they can to screw up everything just enough so that they are the only ones who can operate. Ever hear of the MAPI standard? ActiveX or the Microsoft JVM that was incompatible with the standard Sun JVM?

There's your reason why. Not to mention that after learning how Linux works, Windows just seems kludgy and badly designed, and gets in my way more than it helps me work.

 

Heights of Truthiness.

 

enlightenment comes free of charge with linux. all that is required is to remember it is NOT windows, and things are NOT done the same as in windows. devote some time to learn it, and it will work.

 

hmm go back to vista...
reason is- if ubuntu sucks, vista ant better

 

I've had so many problems with XP it's not funny. The thing is, it only seems to be on my personal machines, I guess because I have done more with it. I still believe that overall it's a stable OS, but I've just had bad luck. First time I tried to install a game (NFS:MW), it said that I didn't have DirectX installed, but I did. Other game demos worked fine, and all the tests passed, but the game didn't. I had to reinstall to fix it, since I didn't know enough about Windows to dive into it. But to be honest, I don't think I could ever learn, because the system is too closed, but that's another discussion. Then I had my Add/Remove programs utility go out on me for no apparent reason, and I tried doing system restores but nothing ever helped, so I had to reinstall. Then I tried doing a fresh install of XP on a different system, it failed in the final stages twice, and then when it finally did work, a driver install gave it the shaft again, so I spent another hour fixing that. Then trying to install SP2 hosed it again and caused it to refuse to boot, where I had to try all over again, at which point I just gave up and installed Ubuntu. And now, my old Latitude will throw random errors saying that the file 'pci.sys' has been lost and it picks and chooses when it will boot. So yeah, I've had problems.

Couldn't agree more. I don't wear A&F, I drive a Camry, and if anyone is trying to "fight the power" by refusing to eat donuts, then they're taking things a little too far. Yeah, oil dependency is a problem, child labor is a problem, and unhealthy foods are a problem, but you take things one at a time. Besides, there are people dealing with those problems; I feel like this is my task. I'll buy a hybrid when I have the money (and when they aren't slower than my Camry ), and I'll support as many things as I can. But until then I'll let Greenpeace worry about the environment and let these guys worry about the child labor laws, and I'll support them all that I can, but I feel that my time is better spent in this area. Everybody has their role.

 

This is why I advocate installing Grub bootloader in the same partition as Ubuntu instead of letting it install in the MBR.

 

I'd also LOVE to know how you get so many installs (20+) I've installed it once, and never had to reinstall, works like a charm every time.

What happened to you Zellio?

 

Oh, here is just another little reason to keep Ubuntu alive.
The qsopcast and sopcast. It let me watch at least 3 channels at the same time. Although the sound really come from three different channel, which mess up my hearing.

 

man... I just had to save my parents' computer again after my dad blithely clicked "yes" to installing an ActiveX control. of course, it installed adware all over the place, including system directories, because I have to let my dad's account have administrator privileges just so it runs properly.

with Linux, at worst, he would have hosed his /home directory.

if only I could get my parents using Linux...

 

My parents' computer has been sitting in a spyware ridden state for the past two years, and they won't let me put Linux on it - not even dual boot. I've tried everything I can to get rid of the trojan, but nothing works. I don't even know where it came from at this point, but I can't get rid of it, I know that much. Not even Symantec's removal tools will work. But they're willing to live with it because Linux doesn't have Microsoft Office.

 

I'm slowly turning my parents around. They now realise that learning a new way of doing things doesn't have to be difficult, and could in fact be an improvment.

Good news is, Dad might be buying a new Dell soon and swapping it with me.

 

I use Linux (Ubuntu) because I get bored with Windows. I then get bored with Ubuntu and use Windows. It seems to be a never ending cycle.

The best comment in this thread concerned productivity. Choose whatever OS you will be most productive in. If that happens to be Windows, then choose Windows. You may want to keep "playing" with Linux in your spare time to see if it becomes more productive for you.

 

Have they heard of OpenOffice?

 

Symantec is a virus IMHO

 

Ah, but see, I did that

Unfortunately, Viasta needs to have the BOOT flag assigned to its partition to be able to hibernate, which I need very often. So I had to have GRUB on the MBR so Vista can still be the boot partition.

 

Interesting, I have no clue about that. I never use hibernate.

Do you know why it needs the BOOT flag?

 

I ran the latest Ubuntu about 3 weeks ago actually.

 

Yeah, but not everything transfers exactly right from MS Office to O . You sometimes lose formatting, fonts are often missing on Linux machines, and macros don't transfer over. My dad's company uses all MS Office, so that is a bit of a concern for him, and I don't want to leave him stranded.

 

Bah, I've had 20 reinstalls because of ATI card. Someone said 9600xt works on Linux.

OMG, it doesn't work!!

 

Sure it does. A friend has used his 9600Pro successfully since Ubuntu 5.10. It has 2D Acceleration out of the box with the open source drivers, and if you follow the ATi link in the Ubuntu sticky, you can get 3D.

 

Well mine doesn't....

I'm pissed because on my last reinstall I finally got beryl working and then linux goes and kills itself AGAIN >

I've tried addng the ATI links and get nothing. Wierd part is, I get 3d even without drivers ???

So I just ignore the driver install.

 

Well beryl is running again.

God help me make sure linux doesn't do the screw up again...?

 

Linux rarely, if ever, screws itself up. 99% of the time I've seen people claim that, it's something they did that they didn't fully understand the effects of, such as goofing with their kernel options or installing a driver outside of the system's management scheme, or just treating it like Windows in general (and expecting it to behave the same way.)

Windows sometimes does what you ask it to do, if you ask the right way and nicely enough, and it's a Saturday at 2pm. Linux does exactly what you tell it to, and like the proverbial genie granting wishes, it may not always be exactly what you want, but it is always exactly what you told it to do.

 

Well.. the thing is that u have an ATI... it doesnt play nicely as my one sometimes does weird stuff..
Another thing, LINUX knowledge does increase ur chance of getting a job (well, in IT and in Engineering departments). I notice this when i was finding a practical...

Zellion, i understand ur pain as i myself have reinstalled ubuntu for 6 times or more due me messing up the system and do not know much of the commands that would restore the system... but now, i do know how to do a perfect install wif firewall/beryl/antivirus and such... guess i did learn something

 

Linux also doesn't like nforce built in sound cards.

I switched to it and Linux did nothing but crash... had to reformat...

It's like everything I use Linux doesn't like :\

 

The main problem is, I like Ubuntu so much better then Windows but my pc is using tons of stuff that takes alot to make compatible...

I want it to work and it doesn't want too :'(

Damn you Ubuntu... Damn you to hell!

 

The thing is, Linux rarely needs to be reformatted, it's just that when you're new, that's the easiest thing to do (not to mention the most familiar coming from Windows, where it often needs to be reformatted). I went through it myself. Every time I had a driver screw up or a my X server get hosed (always because of me doing something to alter it), I would just reformat. But now I have learned enough that I haven't had to reformat in a while (not since I put Feisty on here). It's a learning process when you use incompatible hardware and you have to do it yourself.

 

If you messed up any driver, jump into the recover mode, and redo the plain configuration. Then go back to find correct driver.

The good thing about Linux is: You never need to reformat. If crashed, that's OK. Even kernel(recompiling) crashed can be set back.

Looks like Windows really make you thinking only in one way. Crash---Reinstall. Come on pal, it is not necessary in Linux.

 

No friggin clue. But, if I ever moved it in GParted to ANY other partition, hibernate was lost.

Thinking back, I could have partitioned in this order, I think:

Ubuntu, Vista, MediaDirect

Then installed GRUB to Vista's partition. Maybe that would have left all three in tact. but this is fine for now