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    I love Sabayon Linux

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by Thomas, Jul 16, 2008.

  1. Thomas

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    Its great, I'm using the 3.4 Mini Edition right now, everything was OTB!
    Even My wireless, which NO OTHER DISTRO DOES WORKS! Graphics drivers were installed automatically, includes codecs, and flash install was easy peasy :)

    I love this distro.
     
  2. theZoid

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    It installed and worked OTB way back when on my Acer Ferrari with a broadcom card and ATI gpu. Nice distro.
     
  3. Thomas

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    Very nice, I can't believe it supports my Broadcom card OTB...
     
  4. theZoid

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    Yep, 3.4 supported mine also (the Broadcom in my other laptop)
     
  5. Gintoki

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    Sabayon, eh? I might give it a shot.
     
  6. Thomas

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    Going to try straight Gentoo next.
    :D
    Wish me luck :)
     
  7. blackbird

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    I kept telling everyone about Sabayon.....

    You should really try the latest release (3.5). It has many bugs fixed, more hardware support, ability to customize any package (so you can un check the drivers your system doesn't need), openrc and baselayout 2.0 support (introduces arch's way, rc.conf and faster bootup times) and a binary package manager for those who dont want to compile or do major updates at a time.

    As for gentoo, sabayon is pretty much it with its own overlay, ie you can transform gentoo by adding the sabayon overlay using layman.

    My advice would be to get 3.5, during the install select only the packages you wish and be happy since youl have a bleeding edge, minimal gentoo system
     
  8. The Fire Snake

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    I took a look at Sabayon's home page a few months back briefly, and I found that the distro was very huge, too many packages installed by default that I don't want. That kind of turned me off.
     
  9. blackbird

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    Same, thats why I tried 3.4 mini and enjoyed it.

    Now 3.5 is even better, just get the livedvd and during install you can select/unselect every single package or a group of apps which leaves it up to you to decide what you want or dont.
     
  10. Thomas

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    I don't have a DVD burner :(
     
  11. blackbird

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    Im sure you could get it burnt over at a mates place or buy a usb burner for 20 euros or something
     
  12. The Fire Snake

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    Interesting. What distro is it based off of? What type of packages does it use, ie rpm, deb?
     
  13. blackbird

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    Its based on gentoo, its basically gentoo with its own overlay.

    As such its a source based distro, meaning a lot of compiling. I like compiling its fast and the benefits are great.

    However for some huge apps like openoffice or other system tasks sabayon comes with a binary package manager which is as fast as any other package manager.

    If downloading software from sites, youl have to compile by using the sources (very easy).
     
  14. theZoid

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    One thing I like about compiling in Sabayon when I had 3.4, is that I would simply be amazed that just one file didn't get hosed during the download process.....lol

    @blackbird: have you seen anyone running virtualbox non free on Sabayon? (I move around a virtual HD which contain my business programs)
     
  15. blackbird

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    it comes pre installed with virtualbox, dont know if its non-free. but im sure it will work flawlessly.

    Im going to be removing arch (moving it to a different laptop) and installing sabayon later today or tomorrow, so if you tell me what to do I can check for ya
     
  16. theZoid

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    Thanks....I noticed VB OSE came on the live CD, but need the usb version.....appreciated.
     
  17. blackbird

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    i need to know what to do... what is that version with usb called ? virtualbox non-free?


    EDIT: I presume this is what you mean

    http://wiki.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Install_VirtualBox_(Proprietary)


    so basically you want me to install sabayon, install non-free, install windows then check out if windows inside virtualbox inside sabayon detects usb devices connected to the pc running sabayon...lol right?
     
  18. theZoid

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  19. Thomas

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    Only one gripe, and thats KDE, I like KDE but K apps arent so nice :D.
     
  20. blackbird

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    yea kk, btw click the link in the previous post (first it wasn't written write, it now works)

    il post back with the usb stuff (installing soon)


    EDIT: Thomas, I use the gnome option during sabayon install and its just as amazing (you need to delte gtkrc file in your home folder to get themes to work properly)
     
  21. v1k1ng1001

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    I'm going to give 3.5 a shot on my old laptop tonight and see how it plays with my broadcom card.
     
  22. v1k1ng1001

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    ^^ Epic Fail. Not because of Sabayon 3.5 which looks very nice, but because I think something is up with my broadcom card. Sabayon and a few other distros detect it and install firmware, etc. but it is almost like the card is shut off at the level of the BIOS. Yay for broadcom!
     
  23. Thomas

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    Really?
    I've had perfect experiences ;)
     
  24. theZoid

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    Sabayon detects the broadcom in my Acer, no problems
     
  25. v1k1ng1001

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    The funny thing is that I don't have a BIOS option for switching my broadcom card on. I know that if I installed windows I could activate the card and then boot into linux at which point everything would be fine. Very frustrating!

    The new Sabayon is really nice though. Very clean xfce desktop, great install options, etc.

    I might just have to install windows and see if I can bring this card back to life. :(
     
  26. v1k1ng1001

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    Yeah, so install Window$ and the broadcom card comes back to life. What the heck?

    Edit: So I installed Sabayon and it works beautifully (now that windows has activated my card). Great xfce desktop. I'll take it for a short test drive here and see how it handles package management.

    EditII: Package management not working, but I also can't get to the Sabayon website so I think something must be wrong. Sabayon 3.5 provides a fantastic out-of-the box experience. The xfce desktop with compiz runs really well and looks better than any of the other xfce distros. The only thing I'm really wishing I had access to is open office but I can try again tomorrow.

    EditIII: Sabayon is ridiculously fast on my old hardware! :D Still no access to updates via the package manager though. :( If the package manager works as well as Ubuntu's, I may be a convert.
     
  27. v1k1ng1001

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    still can't connect with the package manager or raise sabayonlinux.org for that matter. :(
     
  28. Thomas

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    What are you useing?
    They sort of broke Gentoo's command line tool..lol
     
  29. theZoid

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    Ahh, Thomas, they didn't break it, they created a new one...you can't break something that's not fixed....LOL
     
  30. Thomas

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    No they didnt actually.
    They broke emerge, and besides the GUI tool is Gentoo's not Sabayons.
     
  31. Lakjin

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    3.5 pod is seriously gimped. didnt even have a freaking cd burner. plus my intel agn wireless card isnt working on it =(
    gunna go to 3.5 full...hopefully that fix my problems.
     
  32. Thomas

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    What DE did you install?
     
  33. Lakjin

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    better question
    what is DE? :D
    sorry im noob.
     
  34. Thomas

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    It's ok.
    Desktop Enviroment- KDE, Gnome, XFCE, Openbox, Fluxbox, etc.
    EDIT: I'm not trying to start a war, but...
    You think your cut out for a gentoo distro? Sabayon is easy and all..but....you don't even know wat a DE is..
    Just saying, don't take this the wrong way(please).
     
  35. Lakjin

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    ah. well with pod i dont think it gave me an option. if it did i missed it. but i THINK im on xfce4

    no offense taken. um its worth a try. live and learn.
     
  36. Thomas

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    Allways worth a shot ;)

    I'm not sure xfce4 inclues a cd burner...hmm....
     
  37. Lakjin

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    i download k3b =)

    im just on pod temporarily. right now x86 3.5 is burning onto a dvd.
     
  38. theZoid

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    I had problems with POD on this machine, but it's fine on my Acer with ATI card and Broadcom wireless...
    Keeping Mandriva on this one. I'm going to send Mr. Sabayon on a mission to destroy Windows XP on a Acer Laptop.....lol
     
  39. theZoid

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    Sink or Swim theory. That's one way to learn. Sabayon was my first distro after my 6 year absence from linux.
     
  40. v1k1ng1001

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    Yeah, well I was hoping to see what was available for cd burning and such through Spritz but I still can't connect to the repos or to the sabayon website. Did someone nuke France?
     
  41. Lakjin

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    sabayon = italy no? :D

    anyway, ya i installed the full 3.5 and its working great. no problems so far. im installing updates atm.
    even my screen brightness short cuts, which didnt work in ubuntu, are working!!! so far i also love this distro. but its takes FOREVER to load at boot screen.
     
  42. v1k1ng1001

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    maybe i'll just download the full edition too

    not being able to access their webpage or repos is seriously annoying tho

    oh and yeah, you are right about italy
     
  43. Lakjin

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    anyone know if the HD dying prematurely like in ubuntu happens in sabayon also? if so, same fix?

    Update: Okay so i can confirm the excess cycles hd thing is also happening on sabayon. I tried applying that fix, but I keep getting this error when i try to move the script:
    "cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/acpi/ac.d/': Is a directory"

    I ran the script by double clicking on it, and it seems to have solved the problem, but that fix will only be temporary right? Once i reboot it will go away? Everytime I reboot I would have to run the script again.

    Update2: Okay via live help, some guy told me to put my hdpram changes in /etc/conf.d/hdparm so im gunna copy over the script code and see if that does it.
     
  44. jas

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    The Sabayon Linux build servers are housed at the University of Brescia in Italy. But the Sabayon dessert sauce is the French cousin of the Italian Zabaglione. I actually made a white wine, Sabayon sauce, served as the topping of a fresh fruit dessert, in my prior career in the early 80s, before there even was a Linux OS. On a more serious note, I'm not sure why there's problems reaching the Sabayon update servers. One would think that they are distributed around the world, based on my experience with Gentoo updates.

    Good Luck..
     
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  48. v1k1ng1001

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    I downloaded the full 3.5 and installed with Gnome. Very impressive. Sabayon has come a long way in a short time.
     
  49. Lakjin

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    I dropped sabayon for mandriva...sabayon just took way to freakign long to load...
    i liked the distro but i like mandriva more now. it loads fast, it has a gui for almost everything, very easy to use.
     
  50. theZoid

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    Yep. Wizards, like for Grub changes, Ndiswrapper, Windows Fonts, Wireless, Graphical Display setup, Network Connections....actually, just about everything that's common.
     
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