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    Intel Turbo Memory & Linux

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by syalam, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. syalam

    syalam Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, I was wondering if there was driver/support for Intel Turbo Memory in the Linux kernel, or upcoming kernel release? I am asking because I'm purchasing a new laptop, and I am an Ubuntu user so I would like to use that as swap space. Will I see the benefit of turbo memory in linux or is it not supported right now?
     
  2. wave

    wave Notebook Virtuoso

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    It is not supported right now. Have not heared of anything official that it is being worked on either.
     
  3. Gautam

    Gautam election 2008 NBR Reviewer

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    Well, I believe it is indeed viewed as a hard drive as Pita noted many weeks ago, and thus you could use the space as swap.
     
  4. syalam

    syalam Notebook Enthusiast

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    If it IS viewed as a hard-drive does Linux write to it properly? Because I know if you write constantly to the same location on a solid state drive it becomes corrupted and damaged...
     
  5. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    The drives themselves do wear leveling any more, so there's no danger of that. You can write to a flash drive more than a hard drive any more. You shouldn't need to worry about even using flash as a swap drive (which is what Windows basically does with it)
     
  6. syalam

    syalam Notebook Enthusiast

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    so would i see some performance gains if i bought turbo memory and set that up as swap?
     
  7. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Possibly, if your system is low on RAM. Try it and see ;)
     
  8. yodermk

    yodermk Notebook Guru

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    Better to just get more RAM, say 2GB, and have a tiny swap partition on the HD.

    I'd possibly put the contents of /usr/lib in the turbo memory.
     
  9. david286

    david286 Notebook Enthusiast

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    does anyone have this intel turbo memory, and got it working as a secondary hard drive under linux?
     
  10. v1k1ng1001

    v1k1ng1001 Notebook Deity

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    I have it in case I run Vista but I've not bothered trying to use it with Linux.
     
  11. david286

    david286 Notebook Enthusiast

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    what is your output of "lspci" ?
     
  12. jas

    jas Notebook Evangelist

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    The only OS that can use Intel Turbo Memory (ITM) right now, is Vista. However if you Google around you will see that many Vista users aren't even using it because it doesn't provide the benefits advertised, or is buggy.

    Neither previous Windows users like XP, nor Linux users, can use this ITM, and it doesn't look like there are any efforts to develop support for it under Linux. I have it in my laptops because I couldn't buy them without it, (I knew I wouldn't use Vista ever so it presents zero value to me). It's not even visible under linux, as anything, and I've never read anywhere that a linux user has been able to access the memory. The most you can see is the Intel ITM controller by doing an lspci;
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    06:00.0 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Device 444e (rev 01)
    These guys are supposed to add support for it to their software for XP users eventually, but it doesn't look like they've got it in their product yet. The problems that Vista users are having with ITM, aren't helping the effort for more support under other OSes. Add to that the fact that Sony and HP decided to wait to implement it, and it looks like this may turn out to be a nice idea, but something that provides little practical value in its first release.

    My advice is don't consider the technology useful, at least the 1.0 release of it. If you can order your laptop without it and save a few bucks, do it. If you can't, it's going to come with it, but it's probably not going to be worth the effort to try and take advantage of it.

    Good Luck..
     
  13. david286

    david286 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've adjusted my linux to spin down the harddrive as fast as possible. Around with some other adjustments, my laptops harddrive is powered down as long as I don't start any new applications or do "sync".

    As my harddrive consumes about 5 Watt spinning up and 2 Watt idle it would be really good to have this ITM as secondary harddrive where all the frequently used programs are stored. So I could avoid this energy draining harddrive activity.

    Another option wold be to use an usbstick as secondary harddrive, but the obvious disatvantage is that this stick wouldn't be inside the laptop.
     
  14. v1k1ng1001

    v1k1ng1001 Notebook Deity

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    I want my $40 back plz.
     
  15. lemur

    lemur Emperor of Lemurs

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    I'm just guessing but I think the kernel developers see Turbo Memory as bad technology so they are not spending any time on it.

    (If anyone is curious: I've explained why it is bad last summer. Search for my nick and "Turbo Memory" or "robson" and you'll see what I think.)