Kubuntu is insane!!

The developers who work on Linux in general really have something powerful going here. Linux continues to impress me. Actually, I am just excited to see that the new Kubuntu's hibernation AND standby functions both work with my laptop, as does Beryl and my Sandisk Sansa e260 mp3 player.

Does anyone have anything exciting to add?

 

Feisty is ballin, whether Kubuntu or Ubuntu.

 

I like FF Ubuntu, but hibernate just refuses to work, overall Im impressed with all my laptop specific buttons working, nice

 

Feisty is actually the first Linux OS that I have NO problems whatsoever with suspend/hibernation. As long as I don't use a 3D desktop anyway. I really wish nVidia would fix that.

 

I totally agree, guys!

 

I don't have issue on Beryl with my Go6150. Actually, 3D desktop works better in Nvidia than it is in ATI now.

 

He meant that it doesn't hibernate well with the 3D desktop running. I've run into the same issue.

 

I see.
That is a bit of annoying. It probably because the triple buffer stuff?

 

Whay do you guys like so much about Fiesty and Ubuntu in general? Why is it so much better then Windows, for instance. I've seen the screenshots and it doesn't seem too impressive to me.

 

Screenshots don't tell you much about an operating system. There are so many more things to love about Linux in general, but specifically Ubuntu. Firstly, it's stable and secure. I don't know anyone who runs Linux that uses antivirus software, and nobody has a problem. You also don't get random crashes or driver errors as often, mainly due to the fact that most drivers don't actually communicate with the kernel itself, and thus can't cause as many instabilities. In addition, Ubuntu is typically much easier to install than Windows XP; if you have common hardware, it will work pretty easily and configure a lot of the hardware for you.

Secondly, a lot of the things are so much simpler and make so much sense in Ubuntu in particular. There are thousands of applications at your fingertips; simply search for them in Ubuntu's package manager, and install them from there. You don't even have to touch a web browser. Feisty takes things one step further, and allows you to install multimedia codecs and plugins directly from the Internet when you need them. It really is a very streamlined process that makes a lot of things so much simpler.

But for many (including myself), the beauty is that it's free. Sure, it usually comes at a very attractive price of $0. But that's not what I mean. The beauty of Linux is the freedoms that it gives you. There are no stipulations as to where you can use it, who you can use it with, how you can modify it, and who you can distribute it to. (I know there are a few stipulations, but these are generalizations for most users). It really does give you so many more options. You won't get sued for using unsupported hardware, you won't get accused of being a pirate, you won't get locked into propriety software and formats that won't work with other people, and you won't have your computer disabled for installing a new video card or using virtualization technology. You don't have someone constantly breathing down your neck watching what you do to make sure you use your software the way they want you to. And this sort of environment also lends itself to a great community. You usually don't find hordes of dedicated Windows users ready to stand up for it because it's something they believe in. And by the same token, the closed nature of Windows means that if something goes wrong with your system, there are very few people who can help you fix it; meaning a simple problem is hidden from you so much that most people inevitably end their experience with a reinstall or sending it to a computer repair shop. There are almost no problems that you can get in Linux that you can't fix with some work, and the lovely thing is, there is an enormous community of geeks, nerds, and general helpful, knowledgeable people that can help right over the net.

 

This is what I heard from others:
Linux doesn't necessarily secure than Windows. But guys who develop attacks are in favor of Linux. They just don't like Windows.

Linux cost you free, but doesn't come for free. But I really thank Ubuntu guys, they make Linux Desktop spread out really fast.

A particular screen shot doesn't mean much, but the freedom of having your own screen does mean something.

 

I'm sorry, but this isn't correct.

Linux device drivers not only communicate with the kernel, they are part of the kernel.

The "traditional" way that UNIX got device drivers was to compile them directly into the kernel monolith. For a long time Linux followed this model, meaning that if you changed the hardware on your system, you had to recompile the kernel with the new drivers.

This was quickly identified as a shortcoming, and so loadable kernel modules were developed. Kernel modules include not only device drivers, but filesystems, additional services (crypto), etc. Although they are not part of the kernel monolith proper, they are linked in to the kernel's address space and enjoy full kernel privileges and responsibilities.

The only conspicuous exception to this is Xwindows. By quirks of history and necessity, the graphics drivers in Xwindows all run in user space (because debugging a running user-mode program is far easier than a kernel-mode program). The only services provided by the kernel are to open access to the memory and I/O regions required to program the graphics card.

So, no. Linux can be killed just as easily by bad drivers as Windows. The reason that generally doesn't happen is because there are far more people looking at and picking the fluff out of Linux's drivers.

Schwab

 

FF is ROCKING. especially the wifi support + vpn, I love FF, no no NOT XP or VISTA, I have to install this and that drivers.......

So far my only suggestion for next ubuntu release is to add in video card driver support, I had to manually install video driver, that wasn't too painful, but not easy for some1 new to it.

 

I've never had any problems with Standby/Hibernate in Ubuntu... even with Edgy Eft. Feisty Fawn has been pretty good so far... but there are some bugs that need to be worked out. (OpenOffice bugs I've noticed... nothing in particular about FF)

I haven't noticed too many improvements over Edgy yet... but I like FF so far.