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    Laptops loaded with Linux, not Windows

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by noahsark, Sep 22, 2006.

  1. noahsark

    noahsark Notebook Evangelist

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    I read this a while back, and thought I would put up a link, since I can't recall seeing anything like this here. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2131977033.html

    It's a little article with suggestions about how and where to buy a laptop loaded with linux rather than windows. The article references a list of vendors known to sell linux loaded laptops, here: http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/23168

    Now, I know that there was also a nice searchable version someplace, but I haven't been able to find it again. I'll post it when I do.
     
  2. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    Lenovo offers laptops with Linux as the preinstalled OS. It's kinda stupid though, since not all the laptop's functions work...
     
  3. Ethyriel

    Ethyriel Notebook Deity

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    I haven't seen any Lenovo's with Linux preloaded, where do they offer them? I know they started offering a couple T60p models which are SLED10 ready.
     
  4. noahsark

    noahsark Notebook Evangelist

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    You can get a linux loaded laptop from R3 ( http://www.shoprcubed.com/) and it will be completely functional- hotkeys, acpi, the works. They write their own special scripts, kernels, etc. Pretty cool, really. I would buy from them if I liked fedora, but I prefer Debian, myself.
     
  5. a1mint

    a1mint Notebook Consultant

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    Another vendor that buys a laptop, throws the *included* windoze license in the garbage, installs Linux, and then sells it with a markup.

    I don't think that Microsoft is willing give up their stupid little illegal monopoly any time soon. They'll continue having the vendors sell those "I hereby state that every computer I will sell will be with the pre-installed windoze license" systems.

    Forget it, they're big, we're small, they rule, the government doesn't, they win, we lose. Disgusting, revolting, but such is life.
     
  6. wearetheborg

    wearetheborg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Um I dont think so. r3 is selling Asus laptops - and if u head over to the asus forum and look at the dealers, u'll see its quite common for them to offer asus laptops with no preinstalled OS.
    I looked at R3's 15.4 offering, and there was a reasonable markup compared to no OS version of Z96j's that are being offered.
     
  7. a1mint

    a1mint Notebook Consultant

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    "u"

    Chiefly British Of or appropriate to the upper class, especially in language usage.

    "you"

    1. Used to refer to the one or ones being addressed: I'll lend you the book. You shouldn't work so hard. See Regional Notes at you-all, you-uns.
    2. Used to refer to an indefinitely specified person; one: You can't win them all.
    3. Nonstandard Used reflexively as the indirect object of a verb: You might want to get you another pair of shoes. See Note at me.


    You're bastardizing the English language.
     
  8. noahsark

    noahsark Notebook Evangelist

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    I really doubt they bought a windows license only to throw it away so that they can charge you more money. As for the markup, what do you expect? They don't work for free. They compile patched kernels and write other programs to utilize the full functionality of the laptop- power management, hotkeys, etc. See bottom of this page, for example: http://www.shoprcubed.com/proddetail.asp?prod=LS1250&cat=27
    Sure, maybe you could do this for yourself, but not all can or have the time/inclination to, in which case R3 provides good value.
     
  9. wearetheborg

    wearetheborg Notebook Virtuoso

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    I want to make it mor efficient, faster. "u" conveys the same meaning as "you". I see no reason why there shud be a "l" in "should".

    Its called evolution

    :D :D :D
     
  10. a1mint

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    lol. It makes me think of a teenager that's desperately trying to be cool. lol
     
  11. noahsark

    noahsark Notebook Evangelist

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    I was talking to my wife about this (she was an english teacher) and there is a school of thought among grammarians that promotes this sort "evolution" on the grounds that language should be what people want and need it to be TODAY, rather than ardently adhering to some set of centuries old conventions.

    The flip-side is that without some set of agreed upon coventions there will be chaos and difficulty understading what people mean. For example, there could be a situation in which the meaning of 'u' (or some other word) isn't easily divined from context. Also, if you are changing spellings and grammar every year you will end up with chaos because not everyone will keep up with the current conventions.

    Also, should should be written as shood, not shud. Think about hood and shudder. ;)
     
  12. wearetheborg

    wearetheborg Notebook Virtuoso

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    There is a recent paperback book on language, I forget the title, I only glanced through it. It was basically on the development of language - language is indeed a supreme accomplishment, a few sounds combined together give us so many things, thoughts, mathematics,communication ...
    It exlored how language developed (assuming no divine intervention :p ) . Its premise was language developed just as its developing NOW. There are forces which ar changing language, and similar forces led languages to where they are today.

    Written english today I think is especially antiquated - how words are spoken dont have much to do with how they are written. Contrast that with Sanskrit/Hindi written in their devenagiri script, and there is a 1-1 correspondence between how words are spoken and how they are written.


    Agreed, it shood indeed be that way :D