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    Linux Mint 19.2 Tina

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Aug 2, 2019.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Several XApps tools were improved:

    • Some tools were updated to support the keyboard shortcuts Ctrl-Q and Ctrl-Q.
    • Blueberry systray menu features an option to connect or disconnect paired devices with a mouse click.
    • The default text editor Xed supports toggling comments and comment blocks.
    • The login screen configuration tool features a new option to set a delay for automatic logins.


    Cinnamon 4.2 features

    • Cinnamon should use significantly less RAM than previous versions.
    • Muffin window manager should feel smoother and more responsive thanks to optimizations.
    • VSync can be turned on or off without restarting Cinnamon.
    • Several internal components, e.g. Appsys or DocInfo, were simplified.
    • Application menu is faster and more responsive. Xed and Gedit text editors, and Flatpack installations of installed applications are now distinguishable.
    • Option to change scrollbar width in System Settings.
    • Option to pin files added.
    • Improved Samba support.

    MATE 1.22 features


    • Configure delay for applications that start automatically.
    • Metacity-3 theme support.
    • Window and desktop switchers look better.
    • Session manager features better systemd support.
    • Desktop notifications for long-running file operations.
    • New compression formats support.
    • New key shortcuts for different types of media keys.
    • Boot repair option added to the installation ISO images.
    • Design, theme and color changes.
     
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    Thanks for the info. I just got finished clean installing Mint 19.2 and I must say according to the feature set you posted it does appear to be somewhat on the snappier side. I'll have to wait and see how it goes in a few weeks but yeah it looks like performance wise 19.2 is an improvement over 19.1

    It's pretty impressive how a small group of open source developers can put together a nice operating system that rivals macOS and Windows. All Linux needs is to be a little more stable where things don't accidentally break and it should be up there with the other two OS's. Linux has gotten to the point where you don't even have to interact with the CLI unless you want too. Out of all the Linux Distro's i've tried, Linux Mint is the only one I use now. It's that good and the performance continues to improve which is even better because when they went with Cinnamon, it made the UX rather sluggish unless you threw some decent hardware to compensate for the lag.

    The other thing i'll add is that Linux Mint uses one of the nicer fonts for screen readability, even better than Windows default display font. MacOS' display fonts are pretty much trash and got really bad with Mojave.

    Posting this comment from my ThinkPad T60 with 3GB running Linux Mint 19.2
     
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    Why is there no proper OneDrive app for Linux Mint? I need OneDrive as I have 1 TB of free storage with my Office 365 Subscription.

    Also, is RAID still not supported?
     
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    Here is a fairly recent Linux Mint support thread (19.1) showing how to use the Onedrive app on Linux Mint, ending with suggestions for other cloud storage solutions + applications:
    Re: Accessing Windows 10 Pro OneDrive with linuxmint 19.1
    Post by phd21 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:14 pm

    Hi GELvdH,

    Okay, I just installed and tried the "onedrive" application from the "Synaptic Package Manager (SPM)". It is a console terminal application.

    As you pointed out, you type in "onedrive" and it responds with a link to copy and paste into your browser to get a verification which it wants pasted back into the terminal (response uri), so I right-clicked that link and chose copy link, open a new browser tab and pasted it, follow the MS Login prompts, then it spawned a blank page for me which I did not know what to do with, but after many attempts, I just copied the spawned blank page's web address (url) into the waiting terminal request and that worked perfectly and automatically started syncing to my existing "OneDrive" folder.

    As with most console terminal commands, I typed in "onedrive --help" to see what options are available.
    onedrive --help
    Usage: onedrive [OPTION]...

    no option Sync and exit
    --confdir Set the directory used to store the configuration files
    --logout Logout the current user
    -m --monitor Keep monitoring for local and remote changes
    --print-token Print the access token, useful for debugging
    --resync Forget the last saved state, perform a full sync
    --syncdir Set the directory used to sync the files are synced
    -v --verbose Print more details, useful for debugging
    --version Print the version and exit
    -h --help This help information.

    First I checked what version of the Linux OneDrive application:
    onedrive -v

    onedrive -v
    Loading config ...
    No config file found, using defaults
    Initializing the OneDrive API ...
    Opening the item database ...
    All operations will be performed in: /home/user69/OneDrive
    Initializing the Synchronization Engine ...
    Applying differences ...
    Uploading differences ...
    43987D5E995C327D!101 root
    The directory has not changed
    Uploading new items ...

    I brought up my online OneDrive account in a browser to verify that anything I am doing in that and or on my Linux computer are working together (syncing).

    Then on my Linux computer using its file manager, I copied some files to each of my home folder's OneDrive folder and its default subfolders (Documents and Pictures), it did not automatically update the cloud.

    I remember noticing that there is a "-m" monitor command flag option, so I ran that. This command leaves the console terminal window open; I think if you add an " &" to the end of the command it will release the console terminal for other tasks.

    onedrive -m
    or
    onedrive -m &

    And then my changes were automatically updated from the cloud and from my Linux computer. I also moved a file from the root folder from the browser's online OneDrive webpage to the Pictures subfolder it was reflected on my Linux system in a little bit, worked very well, nice.

    I also noticed the "--print-token" command flag which is good for backing up this programs authorization token.

    onedrive --print-token > onedrive_token.txt

    My guess is that If I rebooted (restarted) my computer that this "onedrive -m" syncing monitor would stop and I would have to run the command again or add it to my startup programs. I would recommend adding a delay to this startup command to allow your system time to connect to your internet, maybe 15+ seconds.

    FYI: In case you did not know, the superb "pCloud" offers 10gb of free space and an excellent free Linux client (you can pay for more space or encryption), "Mega.nz" offers 50gb of free encrypted space and an excellent free Linux client (you can pay for more space), and Google drive offers 15gb of free space (you can pay for more space) and they do not offer their Linux client, but you can access your account data by setting up your Gmail account(s) through the "online accounts" option in Linux Mint or using a 3rd party application like the excellent paid for "insync" client, "grive2", "overGrive", and other various options.

    "Cryptomator" is a free application for encrypting your folders and files to and from your cloud account if the cloud provider's account does not already have encryption and you want that.

    CloudCross - free multi-cloud - enables the synchronization of local files and directories across several cloud services.
    CloudCross supports GoogleDrive, OneDrive, Dropbox, YandexDisk, and Mail.Ru clouds.
    https://cloudcross.mastersoft24.ru/

    Linux Mint 19.x CloudCross download link, save the 64-bit deb file and double click it to install it. There are versions for Linux Mint 18.x as well (64-bit and 32-bit)
    https://download.opensuse.org/repositor ... _amd64.deb

    The Top 5 Google Drive Clients for Linux
    https://www.fossmint.com/best-google-dr ... for-linux/

    Top 12 Best Google Drive Linux Client Software | UbuntuPIT
    https://www.ubuntupit.com/top-12-best-g ... -software/

    Cli Google Drive Client Grive2: How To Enable Automatic Synchronization - Linux Uprising Blog
    https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/08/c ... ow-to.html

    Hope this helps ..."
    https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=157&t=286411#p1590817

    This article goes over the Linux onedrive app for other Linux systems, including installation, and reviews other options of the app, which should be applicable to Linux Mint as well:
    https://www.maketecheasier.com/sync-onedrive-linux/

    This one is a beta right now, Insync provides access to Google Drive on Linux (cost $) and is now adding Onedrive support. On Ubuntu beta now, you could ask them if you are interested in both Cloud Services if they will support Linux Mint installation with their Beta:
    https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/05/insync-3-beta-onedrive-sync-linux
    https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/02/insync-support-onedrive-linux-client
     
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    I'm even more impressed with Linux Mint that my 13 yr old trusty ThinkPad T60 has natural scrolling on the touchpad. Two fingers up and down on the touchpad will scroll the page just like you do on a tablet. This was impossible with Windows 8/8.1/10 as the drivers were never update for this feature.

    Long live open source ! :notworthy:
     
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    First hiccup today after I put the ThinkPad to sleep several times. I was online and all of a sudden I lost connection both WiFi and wired. I reset my router, no change. I tried scanning for wireless networks within Mint and nothing. So I put the laptop back to sleep, immediately brought it back out of sleep and everything magically started working again.

    Gotta love Linux.
     
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    It's now happened a total of 3 times in the last 2 days, frustrating. I posted a message in the Linux Mint forums.
     
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    I try to avoid sleeping the laptop for a variety of wake reasons, Windows as well. Maybe you can down the interfaces before sleeping - run a script to clear the interfaces / route, and run a script to bring them up after waking?

    Are you running both ethernet and wifi at the same time? Try running one or the other, switch between one or the other, and see if the wake works with one network interface active.
     
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    Nope, and to make matters worse the third time it happened was from a cold boot. I have sleep disabled so I manually put the laptop to sleep. I went ahead and did another clean install but this time I only added Google Chrome from the Repo and I haven't installed any updates from the Update Mgr just as a process of elimination.
     
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    Someone in the Mint forums suggested it could be an updated kernel and that could be possible because in the group of system updates is an updated kernel. So far I have not updated the OS and I went ahead and installed my games from the Repo. I'm just trying to figure out when the problem starts. So far I have not had a dropped connection requiring in/out sleep mode. But it's only been less than a day.
     
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    I have such a love/hate relationship with Linux. I really want to love it for it's principles and giving people the opportunity not to have to pay for something they could have for free. But boy oh boy does Linux get frustrating. It just always steers me back towards Windows and MacOS.

    Linux Mint 19.2 became real close to being my favorite Mint version but something is wrong with this version when WiFi just breaks and you have to put the laptop in/out of Sleep Mode. Then I noticed my fan staying on only to discover that in Idle Mode the CPU load is averaging 9-13% on Core 1 and 6% on Core 2. Compare that with MacOS on a 2012 Mac Mini that Idles at 1% and Windows 10 that Idles at 2-3%.

    I tried ZorinOS and it has issues with the ThinkPad T60's ATI X1400 GPU. You boot and it's just jibberish on the screen. Back to Windows for now, maybe i'll try Ubuntu 19.10 when it releases in October.
     
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    Did you try a different kernel? My default on Mint 19.2 (Tina) is 4.15.0-55, as seen through Update Manager.

     
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    OK I manually booted of the the newer kernel and purged the older one. I only had two kernels listed in the boot screen. Will see if this solved the WiFi drops.

    CPU loads are still concerning with idling at 5-9% on each core, that's a little too much. I'm going to try Mint "Mate" edition to see if the CPU loads drop at idle. In the system activity app it shows "Cinnamon" is responsible for around 2-3% of the idle load. I want to see if the overall number drops switching to Mate.
     
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    Does it look like the "system" and support processes are taking up the CPU? IO? What processes are sucking down the CPU at idle?
     
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    As far as I can tell Cinnamon seems to be the offender with a 2-3% load at idle. I'm installing Mate right now to see if the idle numbers drop to acceptable levels which compared to Windows 10 B1903 is between 3-5%. Sometimes Mint will quickly spike to 14-22% percent and quickly drop back down. The spikes happen too fast to see what process is the culprit.
     
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    Hmmm... Well, I know these are different systems, so it's not an apple to apple comparison, but I have 19.2 with NO extra Desklets, VMware has a process that runs in the background, and of the list of other applets running besides the default Cinnamon ones is just CPU Temperature Indicator.

    I did a test idle with 'top' for about 90 seconds, and cinnamon (which I assume is the desktop process) consumed from 0.5% to 0.7% with an occasional spike (maybe 6-8 spikes of 3% during the duration but for under 1 second) when nothing else is running - No browser, no email clients, no terminals, etc.
     
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    Ok, so I'm on Mint 19.2 Mate edition and the T60 is now almost cool at the exhaust fans whereas with Cinnamon it was constantly blowing hot air but I prefer the Cinnamon interface over Mate. Oh there are always compromises.
     
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    Yay! I didnt like this on older versions
     
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    Updated smoothly on my Dell Precision 5510. One thing I noticed was coming out of sleep there was a significant lag before I was able to enter my password. Updated to the newest Nvidia driver, rebooted, and now that is no longer an issue. Other than that one hiccup, it ran smooth using it over the weekend.