Microsoft are Noobs

What are they on?

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P.S. A bit of OT stuff: just owned physics GCSE mod 1 with a ums score of 100 so really, really happy......!!!

 

Great question, really usefull and all.

If noobs manage to sell their "crappy" or "buggy" or whatever OS to the world, and the smart and experienced people of, well, ANY other OS don't even manage to sell their "superior" OS in large quantities, I don't think you should call them noobs.
Best you can say, is they're monopolists. Or bad programmers. But not noobs. They know VERY well what they're doing, and what the majority off the people wants.

 

OK. At this point, if I was able, I would change the title of this thread to Microsoft are monopolists.

At the time, I was outraged by their advertising statements.

 

They are a company filled with workers, and I think those workers want to feed their children, so what should we expect? Linux is a whole playing field that Microsoft can't compete in, so they fill in where they can.

 

hmm the "Gillette the best a man can get" or any razor ad annoys me more.. no man who actually needs a shave can shave that fast without ripping his face off.. they blatantly have already shaved first then put foam on and use a squeegey blade glued on the the razor.. now that's an outrage!

sorry for the off topic rant but advertising statements are misleading the world over! (plus it's Friday afternoon and it's really hot and sunny outside my office and I want a beer and I'm really trying hard to avoid doing any work for the next 35 minutes!)

 

I agree with part of your post. You cannot say Microsoft is full of people who are noobs. They know what everyone wants and try to do their best to provide it. No wonder over 90% of the market uses Windows operating systems. At the most you can call them monopolists. Noobs dont sell and market like Microsoft has done. Noobs dont dominate the software world like Microsoft has done and is doing. As with all software there are areas which have some flaws. You cannot test for everything. You just go and try to fix those bugs and thats what Microsoft does.

I think this thread is pretty pointless.

 

I grew up using windows, so it's second nature to me. I'm too lazy to type in command lines....plus aeros is pretty

here's a good vista vs linux review: http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199201179&pgno=1&queryText=

 

That review was decent until it came to software installation. How can it be a tie when Windows still requires manual downloading to install packages?

 

Since when did the Linux section get overrun by Microsoft fanboys?

Anyway, I wouldn't call them noobs for the simple fact that they are at least successful at what they do. It's not that they're necessarily bad programmers, they just have the wrong idea about what users want. They think we want our privacy violated, our fair use rights ignored, and... oh wait, pretty colors... Where have I seen effects like Aero? Oh yeah, about 3 years ago via Core Graphics and Compiz/Beryl.

I really got a chuckle out of the whole, "Highly Reliable News" bit. That would be like an Apple magazine called "Really Cheap Computers."

 

Lysander: you can have Windows auto-update to automatically download and install updates

notebook_ftw: it just happened to show up in between the "recent new topics" ... so I just popped in ... I'm not an MS fanboy, but I do admit I grew accustomed to Windows and find it just easier to use than Linux

 

During my extensive experiences in reinstalling Windows, I have found the Windows Update often doesn't work. It always reports that some security update or other failed to install. Ubuntu has been much easier for me.

 

My MS Office Updates failed to verify for updates anymore. And Yes, it's a legit Office 2007 that I purchased.

 

I'm on WinXP + Office 2003
Never tried to install Office updates through Windows Update
Never had problems with XP Auto update

Now, this is my personal experiece ... I'm not saying everything always goes smooth for everyone

 

Yeah, but the difference is, with Ubuntu, or any other Linux distro with a competent package manager, ALL the programs installed on the computer can be updated through a single command (or using a single app to manage it). Whereas in Windows, Windows Update only monitors Microsoft apps, and if a non-Microsoft app can check for updates (not all do), it has to do it on its own, not through a centralized package/update manager.

So, even IF Windows Update works flawlessly (which it hasn't in my experience), it's still inferior to the way updates are handled in a modern Linux distro.

 

What's Windows Updates got to do with VLC?

 

Having a program that updates your Microsoft software is nowhere near the same as a program that can download, install, and update nearly every piece of software you will ever use.

 

At least the Noobs at Microsoft allow me to play games.

 

Umm, no, its the noobs at the game companies that refuse to program for linux. So its not linux's fault that they dont play games.

 

Aero, scmero, I got compiz running on my T42 with ATI mobility radeon 7500 with 32mb video ram at 1400x1050. Lets see aero do that

 

Because there is no market for it.

 

Isn't anything for Linux supposed to be free? That's the nature of Linux right? Free and open-source.

If I was a game developer I wouldn't spend 6-7 days a week for years working on a game to just put it out there without getting any money out of it. Sure you'll be praised for your efforts, but that doesn't really get you much.

People need money to live .

 

no linux isn't supposed to be free
you can develop something, and charge for it
i do think you need to distribute the SC with it though, but i'm not entirely sure

as for the updating
OK, it's true ... it's not the same
but keep in mind that MS would have to support MUCH more programs than Linux

 

The Windows way of managing programs sucks... storing system critical information all in one place (ie, the registry) is a moronic design decision in comparison to the modular Linux way...

Not to mention the way Windows manages users and updates the system... the way I see it, I am amazed at how Microsoft has managed to keep such a strong foothold on the market; at least they are doing something right. Microsoft may offer questionable software, but the individuals driving the corporation forward are undoubtedly very powerful and capable businesspeople.

 

I'm reading your sig bc135, what was wrong with your Satellite A70?

Just wondering.

 

@farelli09: Thanks for that link! It was interesting!

 

No, Linux is supposed to be good. The fact that it is free is a welcome bonus.

I'd cough up if decent games came out for my platform, but I don't go out and buy X360 games when I own a PS3.

 

No, everything for Linux does not have to be free. The Linux kernel itself is free and open source, but the licensing allows you to write code on top of that in any way you want and distribute it accordingly (though the new GPLv3 is much less forgiving in this respect). But especially when it comes to applications, not everything has to be free, nor does it have to have source code available.

Quake 4 and Doom 3 (and pretty much any id game for that matter) both run under Linux with Linux installers. Both are marketed games, and you buy the Windows versions, then use a downloaded Linux installer to install them. Other proprietary programs that run on Linux include MATLAB, which is mathematical software. There are tons more.

 

You know, the candidates that concentrate on their own strengths tend to look better than those that just mock the others.

 

To dimonay: the Satellite has so many problems, there is a lawsuit against Toshiba for it's poor design.

- desktop processor overheats laptop and kills battery life, contributing to unreliability and potentially destroying other components. The computer also gathers a lot of dust very quickly.

- improperly grounded top cover means that ESDs around the speaker grilles can shut down, freeze or lockup the computer. The computer becomes notoriously unreliable in the winter, when dry conditions become ideal for ESDs.

- poorly soldered power jack cracks from continuous plugging and unplugging, and eventually makes poor contact with the motherboard, eventually making the laptop unusable.

- loose battery means that the laptop can't be unplugged because it's just too unreliable.

- the touchpad has frozen on me.

Every A70 owner experiences the first three problems, but that is my list of problems. I will demand a replacement from Future Shop. Think that request is unreasonable??

 

open source and closed source systems.........comparing the two is silly and it makes no sense, but I will do just that

the few dictate the many in a closed source system it contains secrecy and slow modification to support capitalistic communities

in an open source community its constant updating and management through mostly an open and volunteer community

of course open source is seemingly more productive and provides so many opportunities for innovation, they have thousands of individuals who work whenever they can and don't have nearly the objective community staring them in the face all the time blaming their products for unrealistic things

We all use what we use, and we like feeling comfortable while we do it.....no need to make someone else feel uncomfortable.....and that's my bytes

 

Wow...

If a company has a good portion of market share and instant brand recognition (for the good or bad), I wouldn't necessarily call them a noob as they at least one thing right.

 

Finally they've done this! It took them long enough!

Thanks for this. I'll download now.

 

Huh? I'm confused.