Microsoft reduced to begging

It's a link from Slashdot, but Microsoft is begging people to not wait until SP1 to use Vista.

I have no problem with that. I won't wait until SP1, or SP2 or SP42. I just won't use it

 

Allow me to quote another one of my posts...

I think I might we waiting for SP1 (or rather...out of Beta stage) or probably SP2 (finally something decent)...or the next OS! Or Linux...

 

It is just sad that they are pleading with users to adopt vista is this an admission of guilt that the OS is not what it could be? Unlike the borg (star trek) resistance is not futile MS!

 

Sure, I will not wait till SP1. I will wait for SP2

 

I dont know how you guys are having so many problems lol. I found Vista to be very stable for me. So far I havent had much if any crashes and Iv ran Vista Business since it came out. I had it on like 6 different computers. Dell X1 (32bit Vista), Dell D420(32), Lenovo X60T(32), Gateway MX7515(64 then later 32), and the two desktops in my sig (both running 64).

 

Same, Vista has been working great for me. I haven't had any crashes or driver incompatibility as said by many people. Maybe I'm just lucky...

 

Works great on my laptop and 2 x desktop at home plus my work machines

It all depend on quailtly hardware and driver
:>

 

also look for hard ware that has windows logo it help at least on you mainboard laptop etcs

 

Use Windows XP. Refuse to use Vista no matter what.

 

That's funny. XP runs on pretty much anything. Linux prides itself on being able to run on virtually any piece of hardware ever released.

But for Vista, it's somehow a a good thing, a proof of quality or something, that it only runs on a fraction of modern hardware... And this is from an OS that's supposed to be more stable than XP?

And no, I'm not waiting for SP1. I'm waiting for Vista to become a significant improvement over XP in functionality. Yes, all the bug fixes are definitely a good idea, but I won't upgrade just because MS fixes the bugs that shouldn't have been there to begin with. I'll upgrade when they fix the bugs *and* add functionality that XP hasn't had since it launched.

So I suspect I might be in for the long haul... I guess I'll upgrade when applications stop supporting XP.

 

Hmm, my main problem with Vista isn't the compatibility or bugs, or even the hardware reqs. Those I can deal with. Its just that it ends up hogging every system resource known to man...For almost no benefit over XP, other than its new. Its XP Pro for me, for a long while to come. I'll probably end up switching this fall though, since all new laptops come with Vista. Hopefully, SP1 is out by then...

 

If it ain't broke, then don't fix it.

And as far as I know XP ain't broke.

 

Well, XP had/has bugs, but at least it wasn't defective by design.

 

Use Linux. Refuse to use M$ products no matter what !

 

You know, I don't honestly know what I'd do if Microsoft actually brought out a decent OS. I'd be torn between wanting to use the best, and not wanting to support such a horrid company.

 

See, I've been burned too many times by their politics of lock-in. Buggy-as-hell MS Office (seriously, try to use it... I cannot get auto-archive to work in Outlook 2003. At all. Excel crashes all the time if you actually use the annotation features, and I have to recover files with OpenOffice.) Along with file-format lock-in that's never backwards compatible, DRM infestation reducing system stability and functionality at the expense of 3rd party hardware vendors having to support it, treating me like a criminal for buying and using their product... they'd have to make an OS that vacuums my house and feeds the cat before I'd consider it.

 

LOL. You can't escape Vista unless you use Mac. You'll have to use it one of these days!

 

"See, I've been burned too many times by their politics of lock-in. Buggy-as-hell MS Office (seriously, try to use it... I cannot get auto-archive to work in Outlook 2003. At all. Excel crashes all the time if you actually use the annotation features, and I have to recover files with OpenOffice.) Along with file-format lock-in that's never backwards compatible, DRM infestation reducing system stability and functionality at the expense of 3rd party hardware vendors having to support it, treating me like a criminal for buying and using their product... they'd have to make an OS that vacuums my house and feeds the cat before I'd consider it."

Guys, what Pitabred is saying is that he would sooner support Adolf Hitler than buy a Microsoft product. You can thank me later for voicing your opinion so elegantly, Pita.

 

...are you serious? I may have to at work, but I will never use it at home. Out of 4 computers, the only Windows install I have is on my laptop, and that's for LAN gaming. I haven't updated it for months because I never boot into it. As more games come out for Linux (and the more I play with my Wii rather than the computer), the less I'll even have a need for that. Vista isn't inevitable. I rather think that it's the end of an era, like the '59 Cadillac. Ostentatious, trying to be ahead of it's time, and ended up just being a marker of things gone silly. Microsoft may always be around, but I'm really thinking they'll have to compete for their supper any more.

 

Er... what games for Linux are worthy of my attention, pray tell?

 

Using Cedega or Wine, which are basically Windows compatibility layers for Linux, you can run many popular titles like UT, Steam's Source games, etc. Check out their sites for complete lists. I am currently trying to get Valve's Source games working with Wine.

 

I thought UT ran natively? I know that UT2k3 and UT2k4 do. Also, all the Quake/Doom games run natively as well.

 

I've revisited Wine's web site and it seems they've made some great strides. Still, it took 2 years after release before HL2 attained Gold status. Cedega might be better but then again if I see one star for playability for Splinter Cell, what am I supposed to think? It looks to me that for any recent releases, I'll have to boot in Windows if I want to be able to play the game decently.

 

Am I like the only person who has had no major problems with Vista?

I liek it alot, and I'll never use XP on my main system ever again.

 

"Am I like the only person who has had no major problems with Vista?"

You are one of the lucky few, that's for sure. I erased Vista after 2 hours of hunting for a Radeon 9000 driver; there is no support for ATI cards older than the 9600.

 

When you see the word "Vista" think "Longhorn". Big PR bust for Microsuck saying "not backwardly compatible". Sooo they changed the name. This OS is gonna cost big corporations billions. Watch Microsuck drop support for XP in a heartbeat. Lil' Billy Gates is going for the world.
As OS's go,it's the most bloated POS in history. It works fairly well if you use it like your TV and change channels as it dictates.
I have several proprietary programs I've used for years on Windows. (Some of them quite "spendy".) 32 bit applications all and not one ran on Vista.

 

Ummmm, troll?

 

I beg your pardon? If stating your honest opinions is considered "trolling" so be it. Throw me under the bridge.
I only came into this forum in search of knowledge. Not some two bit attitude.

 

Ok for all the xp fan... including me...

I love xp no matter what, i have no intention to change to vista, but i bought a sony fz which came with vista home premium... and this is my little review...

im a hard core windows user, i love to mess wit something new and in this case vista. vista looks great no lie, it have some osx feel to it, and the search interface is fantastic for searching and looking up stuff...
vista make alot of stuff more easy to access, but the annoying windows warning pops up like every where, if you ever watch the apple commercial, between window and mac, yes its true it ask you for almost everything you do its annoying... whats bad in vista... for a start its slower for high end software, it make alot of software feel sluggish, for instance photoshop, to do some basic thing like painting with the brush, it stutter alot i dont know why it does that. compatability of using old software its tough thats why i decided to use all new software a hassle!!! alot of basic thing such as keyboard, even wireless mouse has a problem, many of the registry have to be refix in order to make it work properly...

overall: Good looking interface, easier to access folder, fun basic feature such as the basic game looks cooler, 3d flip, definitely would be a good buy after sp1, and when compatability and stable issue are fix...

Con: its twice as big as xp in term of filling up my hard drive!!! Feel sluggish on many application, overall its slower than xp, annoying warning pop ups, many hardware compatability issue, registry has alot of issue, and so may con that its making me tired of typing this stuff, and etc...

 

Microsoft showing that they still love Open Source software, in fact they are letting them download Ubuntu off Windows MarketPlace!

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007062209235346

 

Zork...Zork 2...Super Zork

 

I get about one BSOD a fortnight and video driver crashes once a Month, Only sheer lazyness and the fact that ill be getting a new laptop soon are keeping me on Vista, Ill stick with XP and Windows Blinds until SP2 comes out.

 

haha microsoft seems to have run out of tricks or ""key marketing strategies""
im acctually optimistic to switch after the number of horror stories i have been hearing lately maybe i will swittch AFTER SP1 maybe i wont at all ill just go over to OSX or ubuntu

 

I don't know if you're being serious or sarcastic... In case you're serious:

No thanks. I'm old enough that I could have played Zork at the time when it was a hot game but somehow our paths never crossed. So about two decades after release I decided to try it. And I took it seriously: I was taking notes as I was playing, making maps, etc. Unfortunately it did not hold my interest. As great as Zork was *for its time*, it did not age well.

 

A little bit of both. It was a reference to a Rooster Teeth parody of the old Mac switch ads.

 

Well, the Radeon 9000 is relatively ancient. I imagine you could find a driver now days though. Wether or not its signed is another question.

My system is more or less top of the line, [or was 6 months ago.].

Anyway, I think driver support in Vista is pretty awesome. Even when I installed it on my three and a half year old Inspiron 8600 without a problem. I didn't have to go hunt down any drivers. On the other hand, to install XP I have to hunt down drivers for the wireless card and chipset.

 

But it does have the power to push Aero. Or should, at any rate.

 

Exactly. My MR7500 runs Beryl pretty easily with open source drivers, so there's no reason that the 9000 shouldn't be able to push Aero.

 

"Well, the Radeon 9000 is relatively ancient. I imagine you could find a driver now days though. Wether or not its signed is another question."

As a consumer trying to decide between Vista and Linux in terms of GUI effects, the fact that Beryl runs so smoothly on my computer and Aero does not basically makes the decision for me.