*Official* NBR Linux Desktop & Laptop Benchmark Thread "Show us your Numbers!"

I do not know of many benchmarks for Linux. Being an overclocker for years, I am primarily a Windows user. But, everything released after Windows 7 sucks and anything I can do to facilitate my transition to Linux can only be viewed as a good thing. There's NOTHING on HWBOT in terms of Linux benchmarks. Maybe someday.

So, please post your benchmark results and share links to download the benchmarks that you use and enjoy. I am looking forward to seeing them, and I'm sure others will, too.

Since I am starting thread, I guess it only makes sense that I will go first.

 

Let's see if HWBOT has anything to say about me using Linux. I read the rules and they are silent about Linux being the OS, LOL. They only mention W10 restrictions because of its functional defects. This is not using the chiller and it beat my 7980XE high score by roughly 25 points. Also with the 5950X running 500Mhz slower than the 7980XE.

https://hwbot.org/submission/4828196_mr._fox_cinebench___r15_ryzen_9_5950x_5276_cb?recalculate=true

https://hwbot.org/submission/482820...r11.5_ryzen_9_5950x_58.72_cb?recalculate=true

I didn't submit these because the scores are not high enough to beat my prior submissions.

 

I wonder if the 2 people so far on the poll who said they were a Micro$lop Kool-Aid drinker were being serious or were just trolling.

I've never liked Linux. I avoid it when possible, but it's kind of disheartening to see how little activity there is here.

Maybe in the future when we no longer have to use the command like to do everything in Linux, I'll use it more. Maybe it's different today, but that was my experience when I was first exposed to Linux about 7 years ago. I hate the command line. I stay away from it like the plague. GUIs for the win!

 

That's been Ubuntu for a while now to my understanding

 

That might be generational. I love using a command line. I had a hard time initially accepting Windows because it was "for wusses" and shared too many similarities with Mac OS. I use a command line in Windows very frequently. The only frustrating thing about it with Linux is I don't have all of the syntaxes committed to memory and I have to Google search things more frequently than I would like to. But, that's on me and reflection of my ignorance.

It is really sad that Linux fans don't seem to be the same kind of enthusiast I am. I guess they are excited about Linux, but not so much the hardware it runs on. I was really disappointed with the lack of engagement in this thread, and I think it really explains why Linux hasn't become a serious rival to Windows. There are too many things it can't do because the people that make Linux great don't care about those things.

I love Linux and it would replace Windows for me if it was as robust and had as many awesome software and app titles. Unfortunately, there are just too many things that I want to do with a computer that I can't do with Linux because there is nothing available to do it with. That's not a fault of Linux because it is very capable.

OEMs are not going to support Linux for similar reasons, and because of that we will continue to see partially functional turdbooks that lack simple things like RGB and fan controls. Just think how awesome it could be if things like MSI Dragon Center, Clevo Control Center, Alienware Command Center, etc. all had working Linux versions that were not bloated UWP trash.

 

https://opendata.blender.org/
There is also using the Linux geekbench benchmarks

https://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/
Openbenchmarking.org

 

https://www.aida64.com/linux-extension-aida64
Linux extension for AIDA64

https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven
choose the linux download

https://alternativeto.net/software/linpack-xtreme/about/
Linpack Extreme

It's early and I don't have all the time right now to further mark more benchmarks for linux. But they do exist and are more prevalent than people think.

https://www.geekbench.com/
If you bought the cross platform, you have no worries, you can use your existing activation key.

https://superpi.ilbello.com/
https://github.com/Fibonacci43/SuperPI
SuperPi for Linux

http://www.numberworld.org/y-cruncher/
Y-cruncher for linux.

I mean, if given more time, I can pull even more benchmarks, I'm sure.

Edit:

Also, for the increased support for WINE and Proton on Linux, along with Steam, you might be able to do some of the benchmarks from steam on there or WINE the windows benchmarks onto Linux.

If people do not know that there are so many benches on Linux, they do not know. but it is less locked down, easier to fake scores, and at other times is so optimized, it makes windows look so crappy it is banned from competitive benching. Just look how much higher your geekbench scores in Linux are over Windows. Night and day.

 

They don't have any benchmark classes for Linux at HWBOT. Whether or not they would disqualify Linux submissions on a benchmark that also exists for Windows remains to be seen. They haven't said anything about the couple that I submitted, but they were not my highest scores with points so they probably will not. There are only a few Mac, Android and iOS classes, but nothing for Linux. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/

 

Yep. They will be removed if some report the subs done with linux.

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/1...indows-allowed/?do=findComment&comment=568071

 

Right. I suspect nobody has noticed because they are not reflected in my ranking and most people (especially the childish ones) only go looking for reasons to report subs when they get upset that someone displaced them on the leaderboard.

With no mechanism or incentive for competing, there's not much fun in running benchmarks. Maybe once in a while to validate results from a new tweak, investigate issues with performance losses (i.e. after "updates" and driver changes, impact of Services bloat, etc.) or compare a new piece of hardware to one it replaces. Otherwise, there is not really much point in running benchmarks. There are many Windows benchmarks that I don't install or run simply because I find doing so to be pointless unless there is a specific purpose involved, or something to be gained from it. There are some that offer entertainment value until the new wears off (such as Catzilla).

 

The reason for locking down the OS is too many tech savvy people on linux know how to fake clocks, etc. Because they have no way to lockdown and confirm settings, and in the past not having a good, non-pay solution for hardware monitoring while the benchmark is running, etc., they have just not included Linux in the fun and games, even though Linux crushes Windows in all Geekbench benchmarks.

There is also the problem of driver compatibility and managing that (and modified drivers) on Linux, making the benches believe it finished faster as well (slightly different issue than faking clockrates to get a higher score).

Hell, last time I was benching on Linux years ago, they didn't even have CPU-X. I would have LOVED CPU-X!

So until they cook up something like benchmate for Linux, I do not see it happening, along with cooking up driver version analysis and checking. If they did that, I could see it. And now that Proton is working where gaming is being supported and Nvidia will be supporting Linux moving forward (including DLSS support), we could see a shift coming soon.

Hell, if someone cooked up a Linux Benchmark OS that was somewhat locked down with a benchmate type thing baked in for HWBot, I think they might come around. But until something like that, just too many ways to fake scores.

 

There are many things about Linux that make it awesome that are also the very reasons it is often hated. There are things you can do to hardware and firmware with Linux that are "not allowed" with a Windows turdbox. It's a shame that so many Linux enthusiasts are focused on mundane things like how to squeeze more battery run time from some pathetic antique turd laptop with a street value less than the replacement cost of the hard drive installed inside of it.

It is an OS that is capable of being a secret weapon or Swiss Army knife but for its lack of ubiquity. If it had the level of support Windows enjoys, hardly anyone would want to use Windows because of its limitations. It's really the ultimate platform for anyone with a passion for defiance of the status quo as long as they are content with fact that most of the software available for it is pretty crummy.

That said, it really has come a long way since the first time I installed Linux (probably 18 or 20 years ago). I think my first experience with it was Knoppix. I used to run it from CD in a work laptop that I wasn't allowed to install anything on that wasn't for a business purpose. That was back in the day that laptops were crazy expensive, putty-colored plastic and had a trackball in the palmrest.

 

I hadn't tried Linux until after Ubuntu was released (around 2008). I last used it a couple years ago in a duel boot, self- compiled. But when updating software broke it so badly, i have up for the moment. But with win 11 being so bad, when I can't take win 10 anymore, I plan on jumping to Linux (maybe with a windows side load only for work apps).

Tried talking my friend out of trying out win 11. But he's diving in.

 

It used to be very frustrating how easy it was to break Linux. I had a difficult time getting an installation to last me more than a couple of months before some package would destroy everything to the point that a clean install was necessary. I am sure part of it was caused by my noob ignorance and lacking the technical knowledge needed to fix my mistakes. Updating anything was like playing Russian Roulette with your OS installation. That doesn't happen as much as it used to. The most "dangerous" thing to update is the video drivers. I have been forcing myself to use it more and more over the past year or two because I know the day is drawing near that I will be decide that I want to be done with the Winduhz nonsense, and I want to be prepared for it. There's no way in hell that crApple will be an option that I embrace. I truly loathe that company. As much as I don't like Winduhz 10/11, I'd be inclined to resign myself to tolerating it if Mac OS was the only alternative. I am hoping Linux ultimately proves to be my Plan B escape route.

 

I think the development by steam of proton, and now Nvidia getting serious on supporting graphics drivers for Linux, may very well be a tipping point. That and every windows going down year after year since windows 7. Windows 10 was a reprieve from 8, but they had to cut off all support to 7 to get people to upgrade, or should I say downgrade. The best windows 10 was the tech preview before cortana and then screwing up search with browser search contents. I think how bad windows 11 is, plus people learning more about bill gates and his philanthropy and pushing for digital IDs and mass surveillance will finally move enough over to Linux to increase support and development.

 

I certainly hope so. I'm running out of patience with the non-stop nonsense. We are surrounded by stupidity on an order of magnitude far greater than anything I ever expected to see during my lifetime.

 

Just remember, the elite and dems and Intel agencies have been proven to use troll farms, like in the Georgia election i think it was when new knowledge was the troll farm pretending to be Russian agents to manufacture bullcrap. Hell, even Mueller had to drop the lawsuit against concord management, the supposed troll farm that helped Trump in 2016, because they had no evidence. Russiagate was a huge WMD all over again (what got us into Iraq). And now them pretending about Corona. Luckily, I've primarily seen memes making fun of omicron all day, calling it a decepticon. Memes from futurama about Lrrr from Omicron Persei 8. Tom and Jerry with Tom saying he just doesn't care anymore. Even Louis Rossman pointed out NYT wrote a fear porn piece saying it was severe, while Bloomberg, another paper, and the woman doctor treating patients in South Africa saying it was, and I quote, "severely mild", where it was even mild in a 66 year old man. The doctor said she thought it might be more wide spread because it is so mild, people are not coming in to be treated and not getting tested. In fact, the symptoms are fatigue, sore throat, and headache. Who goes to the doctor over that?

So more people are seeing through it, including protests all over Europe, Australia, even new York and L.A. people hate Gavin Newsome (which likely got GBS as a side effect of the shot, which he mixed and matched Moderna booster with pfizer, so taking in all the genetically modifying toxins).

Just the media isn't covering it. Hell, 1/3 of truckers said they will quit over a mandate, the 5th circuit shut down the OSHA mandate (which biden said so it anyways, unlawfully).

I'm a Socialist. I'm sure we disagree on plenty of policies. But screw this authoritarian bs the nazi ran world economic forum and UN (which joined together in 2019 to push the 4th industrial revolution) nonsense. Thank God for the protests. Let's just hope it is enough to stop the bio- security state push, digital ids and surveillance, etc.

Edit:

And when i say Socialist, I mean the idealist theory stuff, direct democracy instead of representational governance, non-Democrat crap, etc. Stronger unions and worker protections, not this culture war, woke crap, pc nonsense.

 

I don't know that I can effectively define what I am. Maybe a traditional ultra-conservative, God-fearing, family-loving, kind-hearted anarchist. That's probably why I hate Windows 10/11 so much and feel I need to embrace Linux as a matter of self-preservation. The lack of autonomy and self-directed outcomes using the crap the Redmond Mafia is offering is absolutely unacceptable. It has become abundantly clear that none of us can trust anything we are hearing, seeing, being told no matter what makes us tick. We are surrounded by evil-hearted liars that conspire with the media to promote deception and advance a demonic agenda that aspires to bring division, discourage, demoralize and destroy all that normal human beings hold dear. There will be a day of reckoning and hell to pay, and believing that there will be is not required.

 

Agreed. And even though I'm sure we may disagree on things, that is no reason to hate each other like they are trying to do to divide us so we can't stop them. The real time censorship by big tech right now is scary AF. They call anything against the corporate elite and political elite propaganda "misinformation. " hell, the January 6th lie, the lie about the kidnapping plot of meg Whitmer (Michigan governor) where they had 6 participants coaxed and encouraged by more than 13 fbi agents and assets, including paying for hotel rooms, etc. Around 95% of all domestic terror plots are directly connected to the FBI, usually with them fully developing the plan and procuring the equipment for the plan, including explosives. With Meg Whitmer, it covered up the Michigan Supreme Court ruling that her covid restrictions were unconstitutional. A year later, they ruled it again and begged for the legislature to pass laws to strip her of her powers.

You have the Missouri court recently ruling some of the covid stuff is unconstitutional, too.

So even though the media is lying and they are trying to keep people from seeing the truth, people are still knowing the truth.

 

Agreed. The only path forward is for all normal people to focus on the things they agree on to defeat the forces that want to divide and destroy us all.

And, don't forget... parents that attend school board meetings, expect accountability, and take an interest in protecting their children from being brainwashed by filth are domestic terrorists.

Likewise, we need all normal people with functional brains to agree that Windows 10/11 are garbage, and until that happens their digital trash will never get fixed.

 

That **** about parents at school board meetings is crazy! Thankfully the republican senators pinned down Garland lying about it and thank God he never got appointed to the Supreme Court.

I'm actually glad I stopped using Facebook and Twitter years ago (around 2018). I'm sure of I hadn't, I'd be kicked off by now.

But Microsoft is partnered with Google and "meta", that hellish vision of crap, trying to pretend VR is like going to a concert in person, wanting spyglasses on everyone recording everything for constant surveillance, etc. I feel sorry for anyone buying into that crap.

And with the timing of windows 11, I'd swear that the tpm 2.0 was about giving government backdoor access through a cryptographic key to everyone's computers, just like the digital driver's licenses allow police to backdoor over Bluetooth to pull your driver's license and everyone else's in the vehicle before they ever get to your window. What else does that Bluetooth backdoor give them access to on your phone?

Hell, even Google force updates my phone to put that bs covid tracking software on it. Even though turned off, I'm betting it is still collecting data just like Google maps was proven to be doing even when turned off, giving Google the meta data on everywhere you were going, allowing Google to predict with accuracy where you would likely be on any given day a couple years out.

This is about mass surveillance and suppression of the populace for the billionaires and elites, not for the people.

 

Windows sucks.
Linux sucks.
But they are both great as well.
Know your tools and use them appropriately. Anyway... onto benchmarks.


Powerspec 1530 (Clevo PB50DF2): https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10578560
It seems like I'm the only person who ever runs geekbench's Linux benchmark on that laptop... https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?page=1&q=Pb50df2

I got some comparatively good results, for my hardware, from PassMark's Linux benchmark that I'll have to find & share.

 

Nice!

I am going to have to run some of the Linux benchmarks that Brother @ajc9988 posted just to establish a baseline even though it won't actually do anything for me on HWBOT. Maybe this weekend I will fire up the water chilled and dial it up to 5.5GHz again and see how it does.

I agree. They're both good and bad. But, it is getting harder to pick the poison when it is as nasty as Winduhz 10/11 are shaping up to be.

 

Powerspec 1530 (Clevo PB50DF2) with PassMarks's Performance Test: https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V10/display.php?id=500563933178

(My setup doesn't seem to support any other PassMark benchmarks than those listed below)
CPU Mark: 19,430
Memory Mark: 4,006
It seems suspicously high for a i7-10875h, when comparing to others: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-10875H+@+2.30GHz&id=3726

My tweaks: Set everything to performance values with the x86_energy_perf_policy and cpupower tools, 55mW undervolt, 100c CPU max temp (+5c), and slight tweaks to memory timings.

At least with the PassMark Memory Mark test, one of the energy perf or cpupower tweaks improved the Memory Latency by like 10 nanoseconds, a ~30% improvement. Otherwise most tweaks haven't really changed my benchmarks any worthwhile amount. Though, even with every tweak on, the laptop still idles as silently as before when browsing the web or goofing around on the command line.

 

A buddy of mine is a long time Linux guy who tolerates Windows for gaming.

I do like the idea of at least using Linux for the day to day and Windows for gaming via an intranet streaming portal from a Windows box. Normally I would think it self defeating (because it is) but not all games permit virtualization and most of them will not ban you outright but also will prevent you from playing which is the effectively the same thing anyways.

I have been meaning to invest more time into this as I need to understand visually the file structure before I can really move forward. Unfortunately work and car repairs have taken up my time of late.

 

Interesting choices in a poll... Even without looking I straight away knew who the OP was

Anyway, I would vote for a fifth option - I continue using Windows because Linux cannot fully replicate tasks I need to do in an OS.
And despite Windows taking one step ahead and five back with each new update, it is still more convenient than trying to figure out workarounds (which sometimes don't even exist) or deal with dual booting (which is a PITA, I've tried that).

I've seen many such videos or read articles, and most of them also forget one huge thing - software compatibility other than Office or image manipulation.
Try to run something like Solidworks or AutCAD on Linux...

 

The third option in the poll means exactly the same thing. Windows software is the only reason to use Windows and the only reason Linux can't replace Windows. That has been a recurring theme throughout this thread and something I usually mentioned any time I speak about my intent to become more of an expert with Linux.

 

Oh okay, it just also says "and Linux", so that part is definitely not applicable to my usage scenario.

 

Quake II RTX plays as well on Linux as it does on Windows. Rock solid ~200 FPS with maximum settings and full Vulkan ray tracing.

 

ive been using kubuntu for quite some time (once i managed to get it working on this crappy dell bs) and most things can be done via the gui. theres very little reason to use a cli, especially for simple things like installing apps or updating. and a lot of guides literally tell you exactly what to type. the only time you may mess something up is when you DONT read what the terminal tells you (like ltt did)

 

That is very true. I could see the average user having almost no need to use a terminal. I actually like using a terminal, but that is probably generational and has something to do with my roots in computers going back to the days of DOS. The OS had no GUI back in those days. Probably the thing that annoys me most about Linux is having to enter a root/sudo password whenever system changes are being made. I disable UAC in Windoze because that bugs me, and it doesn't annoy me any less in Linux.

The important thing to remember in Linux is the same as the most important thing to remember in Windoze. If it ain't broke, for Pete's sake, don't fix it. Updating drivers just because there is a newer one available is not very smart. That said, Timeshift works well for fixing mistakes that are not so severe that you render your system unbootable in recovery mode. It is the Linux equivalent of System Restore.

 

and with kde the terminal being integrated into kde makes it a much easier experience (like being able to view images, having it opened with dolphin and kate etc)

open a terminal, enter "sudo visudo". then at the bottom of the file (might not have cursor support so just use arrows) write your username then paste the following after it "ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL"

 

Thank you. Did I do it correctly? I made it the last line in the file, but I am still being prompted for a password when launching anything that requires elevated privileges.

 

have you opened another terminal session?

 

Yes, I also rebooted. Does it only work for elevated privileges in a terminal, or also when launching desktop apps?

 

only works in the terminal. i rarely get asked for my sudo password in any desktop apps, which one is it exactly?

 

Basically everything the same as before. Installing apps with Software Manager, launching Gparted, Timeshift, etc.

 

open start menu. right click on the app, go to edit application, then find the command field and add sudo before it. it wont work with all apps, but most should (i just tried software manager and gparted)

 

OK, yes it is working in terminal. I do not have to enter a password with running sudo commands now. Thank you.

It is not working from the GUI when launching anything that requires elevation.

 

try this: open start menu. right click on the app, go to edit application, then find the command field and add sudo before it. it wont work with all apps, but most should (i just tried software manager and gparted)

 

The "edit application" option is not available when I right-click anything in the menu. The options are limited to things like adding to desktop, favorites or panel.

If I add it to my desktop, I can right-click, choose Properties and add it that way. I just tested that with CPU-X and it worked. No more annoying prompt for a password with launching CPU-X.

 

sorry yes, the instructions i gave were for kde plasma, depending on your de it would vary. glad you got it working

 

I was able to figure out from your instructions how to access menu shortcut properties a different way (using menu configuration rather than right-click) to add "sudo" at the front of the command line for certain shortcuts and it worked great.

Perfect example was CPU-X. Super annoying (actually really stupid) to have to enter a password to launch that. But, no more... fixed it. Thanks for the suggestion.