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    Ok I have a few Q's about ubuntu...

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by darthvader1432, May 24, 2009.

  1. darthvader1432

    darthvader1432 - Audiophile -

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    OK so my main goal is to dual boot Windows vista with ubuntu 9.04 on my ASUS g50vt a1 laptop. Right now im trying to make a ubuntu live disc. I already have the ubuntu iso on my desktop and I want to put it on a disc. Can I put it on a DVD-R? and what would be a good program to use to burn it? I heard something called infr-somethin was good. ALso how much space needs to be on the disc?

    Thank you for your help and I'll probably ask more questions after you anser these ones :p
     
  2. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

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    You can burn the iso to a DVD-R. I burn using xfburn in Slackware, and Nero in Vista....filehippo.com has some free burning programs like imageburn for windows....can't remember the other one that's pretty good.
     
  3. Ed. Yang

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    If you had downloaded the Ubuntu remix from DELL, you'll definitely require DVD, as they are sized closed to 2GB in size.
    If you had downloaded those that are sized 700mb approx, DVD media is just too big a waste... CDR will do, it's cheaper too
     
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    yea lol but i already have like 50 dvd-r laying around :p
     
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    just make sure you burn the image to disc as an image instead of copying over the file as a data file
     
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    The ISO Image that Ubuntu allows you to download is made to be able to fit on to a standard CD-R disc, so it should be 600-700MB in size. Therefore, that is how much space you would need. To double check, download the ISO and check it's size. That will give you the exact size...
     
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    ok so i burned the image onto the disk, and when i put the disk back in i get this picture. Did i burn the disc right?
    [​IMG]
     
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    yeah, looks like it, but you have to reboot the computer with the dvd in the drive in order to run the live cd.
     
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    yea i know, but now I want to put ubuntu in the (D :) partition
    here is what my disks look like
    [​IMG]

    how do i do this?

    or do i need to install it in the same section as windows vista?


    also i just watched a video on youtube and it was talking about "wubi". and wat is the Master boot Record?
     
  10. Ed. Yang

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    With Vista, you can shrink any of your partition to create a empty space of roughly 5GB which is sufficient for Ubuntu O.S. However it is up to you whether to use WUBI integration application or separate installation.

    If you're using WUBI, you can have the choice whether to install Ubuntu to your operating system or in a separate partition. Either both, Ubuntu can be installed on NTFS filing system format. WUBI will do its own MBR modification.

    If you're using separate installation without WUBI, you'll have to do MBR modification on your own. The filing system format should be ext3 or above.(such as Ext4, but according to various reports, ext4 can be still buggy)
     
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    ok i have a problem, I can't boot up the cd from the restart.....i have a sick stomach becuase my computer hates booting other things up besides windows at the start....i can't even run chkdsk.....please help. what button do i press to boot up the cd? My computer is an asus g50vt a1 laptop
     
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    First thing first... are you able to boot up windows normally/successfully? If yes...
    When you reboot your laptop, try to identify the advance boot option button when you see the logo of your ASUS. They are usually either F12 or F1 or F2 or others as stated. Once the your laptop brand logo goes off let it boots into Windows till the Vista login page. Reboot from there.
    This time round, when you see the brand logo, quickly press the button which i have stated above you have identified, to access the advance boot option. From then you can boot from optical drive or usb or others...

    If you intend to use Ubuntu integration application, Wubi, you can skip the advance boot option. Just pop in the disc during Windows session, and execute Wubi. The rest will guide you thru.
     
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    ok i go it to boot up by pressing ESC. im going to decide if i want wubi
     
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    To be frank, my Ubuntu installation is done with WUBI.
    My Windows host is XP, so i can't really do partitioning like Vista do. I was also a little lazy in creating a separate partition using the GParted application from the iso disc. Hence, Ubuntu was integrated to my XP, appeared as big red hidden file patch whenever i execute disc defragmenter.
     
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    ok, well I think I'm going to use wubi instead of messing with MBR and my hard drives becuase I'm not sure how to yet really. Will wubi affect my computers performance in vista?(im a gamer, i dont plan to game on linux however)

    And another thing about wubi is that it is easy to install, and if i really like it eventually i can set it up as a true dual boot. but if i realize ubuntu is not for me i can simply delete it

    What are cons of wubi?
    also will it work with vista?

    I heard that u have to compromise on speed, will this be noticable? I'm not really using ubuntu for computer intensive stuff
     
  16. Ed. Yang

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    The cons of using Wubi is already mentioned. That's the one and only issue that i've faced.
    Using Wubi is much simpler, as the complexity on self modification on MBR can be ignored. If you find that Ubuntu is not your cup of tea after a few days of usage, you can just un-install the operating system in whole by just a few clicks away, from Windows control panel, then Un-install...
    Wubi works with Vista. But i suggest that you check with fellow brudders here in the forum for possible bug issues with Vista. There are some cases where some brudders here, were unable to un-install Wubi installed Ubuntu...

    One thing i must mention, is that the installation of Ubuntu is just as challenging as Windows, because for some hardwares, like my case, does not work out of box, due to the lack of hardware driver to some component.
    However these can be remedied, after a few updates.
     
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    ok and another thing does it matter what partition I install ubuntu with wubi in? If i install it in the C: disk will it slow down vista's performance? I was thinking of installing it to the F drive becuase then I would have
    C: vista and some programs(iTunes and documents,pictures ect)
    D: data and programs
    E: data and programs
    F: Ubuntu

    does that look right? how much space should i give ubuntu?

    and if i run in the problem where I can't uninstall it, I can simply delete that volume and it will be like nothing ever happened
    Here is a picture about what im talking about
    [​IMG]
     
  18. Ed. Yang

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    Whether you're installing Ubuntu to your system either with the Integration application or a true separate install... modification of MBR will affect your future login to the computer. You can't just delete of the partition off and expect that you can log in to Windows successfully later. To uninstall Ubuntu if you're using Wubi, you will need to access to the windows control panel and remove it off in the traditional way.
    Regarding separate install which is not done using Wubi, you might want to check with other brudders in this forum. I'm sure that the adventurous ones will give you a better way to deal with it.

    Regarding the size required for Ubuntu... to me 5GB is acceptable, as you can access your host(Windows) partition to place whatever you have downloaded while in linux session. 10GB is comfortable. Anything above that will have to depend on your appetite.
    But just like Windows, frequent updates to your operating system will in the end choke up your Linux partition leaving very little space for storage in the Linux partition. Hence, some cleanup is necessary in some occasion.
     
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    ok, I understand now. I think I'm going to put it on the F: drive because it is totally empty and has the most space. that would work correct? and i can go to
    control panel>uninstall a program to delete it from the F: drive right? or to do that does it have to be on the windows partition(which is c: in my case)?

    Thank you very much for your help btw
     
  20. Ed. Yang

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    Looking at your screen caps, 116GB is quite a luxury for Ubuntu. But as i say... it's up to your choice ...

    One thing i have totally missed out... Wubi installation installs Unbuntu to your Windows in a form of hidden file. Till now i have no idea how to access the content in the hidden file while i am in windows session. In contrast, while i am in Linux session, i can read and write, transfer, cut, copy and paste contents in the Windows partition or other drives. I see this as a definite pros as other users will not have account and password access to my Linux O.S.
     
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    Yes, I would like to run Ubuntu at its best and since i have so much space (2 HDD) I would like to install ubuntu on the F drive. IM worried however if i di this instead of installing it on the C: drive I wont be able to acces my windows profile and documents from linux and I won't be able to uninstall linux by going to the control panel becuase it will be on a different drive from C:
     
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    Oh no... hopefully your partition #F is on the same HDD as your Windows system...

    If i am not wrong, if you install Ubuntu to the non-booting drive, you may have startup problem... as encountered by other users before in this forum.

    I suggest that you gather more info before you make the move. I have no total experience with 2HDD in a system.
     
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    well I am installing it now on partition C: where vista is installed and I gave it 20 gb of space. I can do other stuff later if i neeed to. That seemed pretty basic. UBUNTU HERE I COME.