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    Ubuntu -- EDGY EFT & DAPPER differences

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by LIVEFRMNYC, Oct 22, 2006.

  1. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    What the differ between Edgy & Dapper?

    Being that the lastest Ubuntu is EDGY.

    I'm finally getting used to commands in terminal. Will commands changes? I ask this because I know things are differ in KDE & Gnome.

    Which is better?

    Also is there any noticeable thing about Ubuntu 6.10 vs 6.06?
     
  2. lowlymarine

    lowlymarine Notebook Deity

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    Having used Dapper since it was in Beta, and now Edgy since it entered Beta as well, I can tell you the difference is substantial in terms of usability, speed, and the like. Edgy is finally, I dare say, almost to an OSX-level state of user-friendliness, while still being faster (finally even faster to boot!) and more stable than Windows. Plus it includes ntfs-3g in the repositories, so you can write to your Windows partition without having to set up ntfs-fuse manually like in the old days.

    But no, the terminal commands haven't changed. In fact, they really shouldn't differ between KDE and Gnome; those are just different GUIs over the base kernel, without affecting BASH.
     
  3. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    GREAT NEWS!!

    I'm going to download the ISO now :)
     
  4. cmd101

    cmd101 Notebook Enthusiast NBR Reviewer

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    what is the default desktop environment like with edgy? does it use the metacity theme like dapper? or is it like XGL with compiz/beryl? i havent really had time to look into it yet.
     
  5. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    Well, I was going to create a new thread, but I'll just put it here instead. I tried updating my old C640 to 6.10 RC. I went to the terminal and typed
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    gksudo "update-manager" -c -d
    as indicated on Ubuntu's website. I saw the button that said "Upgrade to 6.10" or whatever it said (something close to that) and clicked it. I had just upgraded the system, so I thought all would be fine. Well, it wasn't. It started off fine, but about a third of the way through the installation process, it encountered an error and ended. Not cool. It returned me to Ubuntu with no problems, so I went into the SPM. Obviously, I had broken packages, so I attempted to repair them to the default Ubuntu packages for 6.06 by clicking on "Repair all Broken Packages" in the menu. It downloaded and installed everything, said there was a problem configuring VMware Player (this happens anytime I update anything), and then said I needed to restart. So I did. The computer rebooted, but attempted to boot into the new kernel (v 2.4.16-10 I think), and sent me straight to the command line. X is screwed. So I rebooted again, and this time entered GRUB and tried booting into the previous kernel (2.4.15-27). Again, X was down. I was expecting this, but here's the funny thing. You know how the screen goes to a basic (almost DOS-like UI) screen and tells you that X is screwed up and asks you to display the output of xorg.conf? Well, that would come up, I would hit enter (for yes), but then the command line would pop up on top of it. Not replace it, the command line text asking me to login is actually on the screen with the X message behind it. So I can't see the xorg.conf file. I tried navigating to it directly, but I can't remember how to edit it. So can someone help me edit my xorg.conf file so that I can get my desktop back?
     
  6. wearetheborg

    wearetheborg Notebook Virtuoso

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    On my SLED system, its at /etx/X11/xorg.conf
    Is there a backup file ? My system has one at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.saxsave
     
  7. Lysander

    Lysander AFK, raid time.

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    yeah, there might be a backup in that folder somewhere. Also, try the Alt + F keys to switch between CLI terminal tabs, maybe the output of the file got plonked there.
    And, as an aside, the update through update-manager didn't work for me either.
     
  8. Paul

    Paul Mom! Hot Pockets! NBR Reviewer

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    Tried all that; no luck. There were old xorg.conf files in there, but not backups, they were just old files from previous versions I think. I renamed them xorg.conf (obviously getting rid of them old file), but to no avail. I even tried reinstalling Gnome, KDE and Xfce via apt-get, but still no luck. They wouldn't install. So pretty much, I'm screwed. My CD-ROM doesn't work anymore, so I can't boot from the CD and attempt a repair, so I have major problems. Any other suggestions?
     
  9. jas

    jas Notebook Evangelist

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    Having your xorg.conf configuration borked by an update is pretty annoying, but you should be able to get it back by editing xorg.conf, (not reinstalling anything). There is a good thread about X related configuration stuff over at the Ubuntu forums at;

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=454217

    The first thing I would try to get X back up is to build a new xorg.conf. First backup any current xorg.conf you have;

    sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup

    Then create a new xorg.conf file;

    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

    If you want to diagnose what happened at a lower level, see if you can attach your xorg.conf, and also attach your X server log file, /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

    Good Luck.