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    Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 1

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by Matt is Pro, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    I'm surprised no one else caught this.

    Ubuntu 11.10, named Oneiric Ocelot, was released on September 1st.

    It comes with lots of feature and enhancements, such as the new Linux 3.0 kernel, and Gnome 3.

    Here is a link:

    Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) Beta 1

    Enjoy!
     
  2. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    I personally haven't noticed it because my laptop is happily chugging along with 10.04.3. :p
     
  3. helmetface

    helmetface Notebook Consultant

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    Any major bugs?

    I'm on the fone or I'd search myself, browsing is a pain in the .

    Thanks
     
  4. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    I haven't tried it myself just yet.

    I may wait for Beta 2 to slap it on my netbook.
     
  5. Primes

    Primes Notebook Deity

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    Its hard to get excited about ubuntu anymore since they just pump out a new release every 6 months. even if its not ready :)
     
  6. debguy

    debguy rip dmr

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    @S.Prime:
    There's no need to whisper! ;)
     
  7. v1k1ng1001

    v1k1ng1001 Notebook Deity

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    I'm going to install the RC later this month on my MSI but I don't have my hopes too high. 11.04 was a mess on all three of my systems. On my MSI, natty is having trouble running my gpu...big trouble. On my netbook, I have to run unity in 2d or go with gnome 2.x. With my HTPC, natty has trouble with video tearing, although I've minimized it.

    I've been running Linux Mint Debian edition on my netbook. There are a few bugs here and there and working around the stupid mint search is a pain but overall I'm pleased. Debian with metacity gives me a much snappier gnome system and a rolling release. I think I'm going to stick with it for a while.

    Also, as xfce continues to develop, I may turn to to xubuntu or lxde + thunar in the near future.
     
  8. ral

    ral Notebook Evangelist

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    I have run it on a USB drive. Have not noticed any bugs, but my time on Ubuntu is limited. Mainly I was poking around Unity, which is not an improvement over the previous version if you ask me.

    The big new feature is "Lenses" which are really just a set of filter options, which does not really make navigating easier. An app not on the desktop dock can take as many as eight separate actions before you can launch it.

    I am a big fan of graphical point and click desktops, but Ubuntu's Unity is starting to look too busy.

    [​IMG]

    Source of image: Mobile Raptor: Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 1 - Launching apps takes a few steps to many
     
  9. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    ^ ^ That's just disgusting. I hate unity. :nah:
     
  10. Matt is Pro

    Matt is Pro I'm a PC, so?

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    Let's be honest though - Is Gnome 3 much better?
     
  11. corbintechboy

    corbintechboy Notebook Consultant

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    As do I.

    What I find really funny is they did not like Gnome shell, turned around and took something like Gnome shell and made it 100x worse.

    I have been using Gnome 3 for about 2 months and I think it is the best desktop I have ever used! Runs good on my netbook and whomever came up with the multi tasking ability is simply a genius! I love it!
     
  12. v1k1ng1001

    v1k1ng1001 Notebook Deity

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    I have a suspicion that I might like Gnome 3 too. I might give it a shot this fall.

    My primary problem with Unity at this point is that it advertises software in my menus and requires an extra click just to see all my apps within a certain category. It's ridiculous.
     
  13. ral

    ral Notebook Evangelist

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    I decided to wipe my Fedora 15 install, and am running Ubuntu 11.10 Beta now, with the Gnome 3 desktop. Only issue I have had is slow drawing of menu's in LibreOffice (changing themes seems to help) and a few crash reports (which have not actually affected what I am doing), but it is a Beta.

    I really like Ubuntu with Gnome 3.

    Agreed.

    Almost forgot, a screenie:

    [​IMG]
     
  14. theZoid

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    That's too high an obsolescence rate for me :)
     
  15. ral

    ral Notebook Evangelist

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    Once a year would be better once they get to their "final" product, even one every 2-3 year years with just bug fixes and security updates. I think at this point Ubuntu is still trying to find its spot.
     
  16. v1k1ng1001

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    On the other hand, I'm sure those who have newish hardware like to see more frequent releases.
     
  17. corbintechboy

    corbintechboy Notebook Consultant

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    I think all distros should have a rolling release model.

    You could still produce LTS releases and "snapshots" of rolling in order to appease those who like to install every 6 months. Arch already proves that a rolling release model can be stable.
     
  18. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    But instead of new releases, why not just focus on bug fixes and incorporating new features (such as support for newer hardware, like service pack updates)? No need to create radically new versions every 6 months. I've seen since 8.04 bugs being carried over from release to release, always put on the back burner and never properly addressed. Instead the "developers" are focused on new releases. It's rediculous. As I've already said, the happy medium for me is 10.04, and I'm still happily running it without issue.
    It's stupid though because if I want full support of sandy bridge, I have to go with a newer version, though 10.04.3 was just released july 20th.
     
  19. ral

    ral Notebook Evangelist

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    Am not too fond the Dash... For files, since we have to gold old Home folder, I can navigate around my files the old fashioned way. Is there a way to create a shortcut on the Launcher that will open a menu that will display all installed apps?
     
  20. James

    James Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Did the developers strip out Ubuntu Classic in 11.10? I am running 11.04 on my Lenovo S10, and unity runs like a hog. The classic desktop runs beautifully though.
     
  21. v1k1ng1001

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    Gnome 2.x or "classic" is no longer available. There is a gnome 3 "fallback" mode but it is not the same thing.

    In other news ubiquity no longer fits on my netbook's screen making it impossible to graphically install ubuntu.

    I still can't bring myself to use either unity or gnome 3.
     
  22. Ayle

    Ayle Trailblazer

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    Time for a new desktop environment? Kde worked really well on my 8.4" tablet PC.
     
  23. ThinkRob

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    Have you tried XFCE?
     
  24. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    I might have to switch to a newer version of ubuntu, and I'm not happy about it. I really don't want to give up 10.04, but it just wont support newer hardware. :mad: :rolleyes: :(

    Come to think of it, if that stupid bug where ntfs read-only partitions are not auto-mounted is corrected, I might just switch.
     
  25. Ayle

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    Last time I checked, unless you manually add the partitions to the fstab file or something else put them in there for you, the partitions will not be automatically mounted, it's not a bug, it's by design.
     
  26. talin

    talin Notebook Prophet

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    No no, it's the bug that allurgroceries pointed out to me, where if you insert a thumb drive that is read only, with an ntfs partition, it says "drive cannot be mounted - read only", and you have to do it manually from the terminal.
     
  27. v1k1ng1001

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    Yeah, I've tried all the desktop environments and worked extensively with XFCE in the past. So yeah, I'm probably going to go with XFCE (4.8 has some key improvements as far as I'm concerned) on my laptop and then goof around with Gnome 3 on my netbook at some point.

    The only problem is that Mint Debian edition with Gnome 2 runs so damn well on my netbook that I may only give it up when it drops Gnome 2.

    On my HTPC I may just stick with 11.04 for as long as possible because Gnome 2 is the only DE that I can scale well to my screen even though it is a bit sluggish on my screen. If I could get the window title bars to scale in xfce I would install xubuntu on my Revo in a heartbeat.
     
  28. ThinkRob

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    Debian stable will keep GNOME 2 until about 2013 or so.

    And RHEL 6 will keep it until 2020. :D
     
  29. theZoid

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    And Scientific Linux too.... :)
     
  30. ThinkRob

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    Not nearly as long as RHEL, but yeah, for a minimum of three years from release.
     
  31. ral

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    Beta 2 is out.