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    Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) and Intel Pro 3945 problems

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by junknstuff, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. junknstuff

    junknstuff Notebook Consultant

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    installed ubuntu 7.04 and its great, but i cant get the wireless to CONNECT. it can see my wireless connection, among others, but wont connect after i enter the WEP.

    when using dapper drake (6.06) i was able to connect to the internet, so that was fine but i wanted feisty fawns cleaner and more up to date interface

    any help would be appreciated! i'd like to say away from windows, but if i cant even get my wireless working blah i might have to dual boot :(

    *edit* found the fix. it lay with WICD as the key and remembering to uninstall the network manager FIRST

    http://wicd.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php?id=faq
     
  2. lemur

    lemur Emperor of Lemurs

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    Before trying to figure out the WEP problem. Why don't you use WPA or something else more advanced than WEP? WEP is old and insecure.
     
  3. t12ek

    t12ek Notebook Consultant

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    I've run into a WEP problem with Network Manager before... what it boiled down to was, when Network-Manager detects a WEP network, it defaults to prompting for a 64-bit passcode, switching to 128-bit solved the problem for me.

    With that said though, I second lemur's suggestion, switch to WPA (WPA2 if you can).
     
  4. junknstuff

    junknstuff Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for the suggestion but that's not what i was asking. also, i didnt say i was having any problems with WEP :confused:

    again, thanks for the suggestion. as for the WEP passcode, i was already using 128-bit

    I actually ran into the solution on ubuntuforums.org where they say the network manager is faulty on its own, and thats why most people switch out to WICD or find a different method. I was able to use WICD with great success, just need to have it launch on start up :D

    thanks for the replies fellas!
     
  5. lemur

    lemur Emperor of Lemurs

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    It seems a reasonable hypothesis if Ubuntu can see your network but that entering the WEP key does not get you further that WEP was the problem. By switching to WICD you have not demonstrated that that hypothesis was incorrect.

    WEP is insecure no matter what key length you use.
     
  6. junknstuff

    junknstuff Notebook Consultant

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    ok, lemur, i already thanked for your input but it seems you do not understand that i am responding to each reply and not replying to everyone posts at once.

    it was suggested by t12ek that going from 64bit to 128bit would solve the problem, not that it is insecure.

    and like i said, i already found the problem where i stated that it is Ubuntu's Network Manager that is faulty, so by removing that and using a third party Network Manager (in my case WICD) it DID solve the problem at hand.

    Please read responses clearly and respect others' opinions, this is what makes a stronger community, not bashing what others have to say.

    this thread can be locked now, i posted my problem and the solution i found and i hope that i can help other NBR members who run into this problem if Ubuntu hasn't solved it by the time another member uses it!
     
  7. t12ek

    t12ek Notebook Consultant

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    Actually, that's NOT what I was suggesting. What I was suggesting is that the Network Manager requests a 64-bit passcode by default, and that you would have to specify that you were supplying it a 128-bit passcode.

    And actually, I was agreeing with lemur that it IS insecure. As evidenced when I said:
    With the implication that the reason you should switch is due to security reasons. I just wanted to offer another suggestion on how to fix it since I understand that people aren't always in control of the access points they connect to.
     
  8. junknstuff

    junknstuff Notebook Consultant

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    ^^ Thanks for clarifying, looks like we had some communication error, but no worries, i already ditched Network Manager for WICD which is all I needed to do.

    thanks again. also, because this isn't my network i can't mess with their security so unfortunately, upgrading to WPA won't work...
     
  9. pyro9219

    pyro9219 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    Not sure if it helps any, but I can't use wireless on any of the *buntu's because it randomly locks up the machine on a bad day, and on a good day it randomly drops the connection and won't connect to anything again till I reboot. It's done this with 3 routers with 3 different chipsets using both WEP and WPA1/2. It also seem to get worse the longer the OS is installed.

    Mepis and many other distro's I've tried don't have this problem.
     
  10. lemur

    lemur Emperor of Lemurs

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    I use Ubuntu with WPA1 and never had a problem. The Network Manager manages all connexions. Worked right out of the box.