Ubuntu Feisty (beta) VS MS Vista.

I'm bored so here goes ........... Ubuntu Feisty (beta) VS MS Vista.


Startup and Shutdown times .....Ubuntu Wins

Initially boot up time is equal to getting to the Log on screen, but Windows slows down after that when starting up all it's processes. Ubuntu is ready to go literary in an instant after Log on. Even if you were to kill nearly all your Windows start up processes, Ubuntu still wins with instant net use and all. Shutdown times on Ubuntu is always the same and even though Windows can have just as fast shutdown time, thats not always the case.

Usage of Resources ........ Ubuntu Wins

Less Ram and CPU. I have an average usage of 350mb to 400mb even while using AIGLX/BERYL, Azureus and Firefox at the same time. Vista seems to start out using 500mb and over with just Aero. I never had apps stall on me due to running many apps. This sometimes happens on Windows but I'll guess that Ubuntu is easier on CPU.

NET Speed ........ Ubuntu Wins

I don't know the reason for this but Firefox on Ubuntu is the fastest surfing experience I ever had. Even on Windows, FF is not that fast. My torrents are quicker and streaming vids/music are faster. Regular downloads seem quicker too. My e-mail client POPPeeper that I run on Wine seems to download e-mail faster than when I run it on Vista. Google Earth streams more smoothly. I can go on & on.

Applications Speed ....... Ubuntu Wins

Depending on what app you click on Vista, you might have an instant to a 20sec+ wait. This is not the case with Ubuntu. All the apps I have tried on Ubuntu start instantly. Even most apps I use under Wine start faster. This includes opening Folders, Archives, System settings, ETC. Ubuntu is just a faster OS overall.

Programs/Applications ........ IMO it's a Draw

Ubuntu has So many Free apps to install from "ADD/REMOVE" section, but most of these apps are not top of the line. I do have to say that most apps for Linux(Ubuntu) do the job thats needed. Windows has a tons of Free software too, but you got to look for them. Ubuntu sure wins when it comes to convenience out the box. But most apps made for Windows are just better at the moment, and there are far more Windows apps to choose from VS Linux. Fortunately more & more popular apps are being made for install on Linux distros too, like Skype, Google Earth, Azureus, ETC: And there is also Wine that allows you to install Windows apps, but most apps don't work decently enough using this method. Also it seems much eaiser at the moment to config apps on Windows.

Drivers ........ Vista wins

It's still a Windows world, and even Ubuntu doesn't seem to have the ease of detecting/load or installing the right drivers yet. Wifi, Cam, and Sound is the biggest problems. I never got my Cam to work under Ubuntu on my laptop or my desktop using differ cams. Wifi is Ok for me but not for others. Ubuntu doesn't seem to want to share my sound card with apps like Audacity when recording. Yes myself and others have personal PC problems, but it's so much easier to Troubleshoot on Windows. I'll blame this somewhat on lack of Linux knowledge from the Average User like myself. Vista has it's Driver problems also but it's getting fixed quickly. Not to mention drivers are more likely to be made for Vista(windows) than Ubuntu(linux).

EyeCandy ......... Ubuntu Wins

The choice of Gnome and KDE is nice, not to mention the ease of configuring your desktop. Has Desktop Effects included using Compiz, XGL, and AIGLX. Slight problem with Cube, but Feisty is beta. I just use Beryl instead. These Eye-Candy effects can do everything Vista/Aero can do and ALOT more. Eye-Candy on Ubuntu kills any Vista Eye-Candy I can think of. Vista however does look the best out of the box. Not much configuring to do.

Gadgets/Widgets .......... Vista wins

This is basically Vista Sidebar VS GDesklets, And GDesklets absoluty sucks. Vista Sidebar is the best Widget app I ever used. But I really don't need Widgets on Ubuntu. Alot of things I use Widgets for, the Ubuntu panel allows me to add those same uses to the top or bottom panels. Like the Weather, System monitor, Stocks, ETC.


Workspaces ........ Ubuntu wins

Basically cause Vista/Windows doesn't have this. LOL
I didn't see any real use for Workspaces when I started using Ubuntu or other linux distros, but it really has come in handy. No more desktop clutter or closing any windows/apps by mistake(I hate doing that).

Safety ......... Ubuntu wins

Ubuntu/Linux is just MUCH safer than Windows. Being that most script, warez, etc: are written for Windows. There are other reasons too, like not be on root. Safe guarding Windows is like having a Car with a separate alarms on each tire, fully armored, invisible to others while driving and restarting the ignition during every stop light. It's like driving in Iraq.


There is alot more I can compare, but I got things to do at the moment. So feel free to finish comparing.

 

id say it is a pretty good list. thanks for comparing...if only linux had market share.

 

Yeah, I would tend to agree with that list. I wasn't too impressed with the startup times on Kubuntu 7.04 Herd 5 last night (on my fastest hard drive), but that isn't a huge deal. Overall, I prefer linux, but I just wish I could use it more.

 

I'd say there's some bias in this comparison.. lol... but in all honesty, it's pretty true. Go Ubuntu!

 

bias? we dont need any bias, let the OS speak for itself!

 

My 2 cents?

All, and I mean ALL, of the cool stuff shows up on linux first. I don't see why I should pay $$ to be instantly out of date with Windows.

My main gripe with Linux is its wireless support. I can connect to every wireless network I try with ease, except for the wireless network implemented at work. Go figure.

My second gripe is the hit and miss support for memory card readers, although this is getting to be less and less of an issue.

My final gripe is not a Linux thing, but ATI really needs to improve its Linux drivers. It is not always easy to find a laptop with an Nividia card (Intel GMA works great, but I want to game too).

My dream laptop...Apple Macbook pro form factor/chassis, Nvidia go7700/8700 graphics, 1680x1050 screen, 7-1 memory reader, FW 800, 4 USB ports, atheros 802.11n wifi, Core 2 Duo/Quadro, 4GB RAM, and a 200GB disk dual booting Ubuntu/OSX

 

Yea, I'm pretty sick of my ATI driver issue and Linux distros. It was a main reason why I had problems trying to install use Eye-Candy on Dapper,Edgy an other linux distros. But no problems at all with Feisty I have Feisty loaded on my Laptop and Desktop, my Desktop has Nvidia and shows a quick splash screen of the Nvidia Logo on boot up. My Laptop using ATI doesn't do that. Not a concern tho being that boot up time is fast.

Man thats a nice dream laptop.

I also forgot Gaming, but I think we all know the answer to that at the moment.

 

I can't find much to disagree with there. And I'm sitting in Vista at the moment!

 

I guess at this point, I would need to be threatened with force or at gunpoint to use an M$ product.

Does that reveal anything about my opinion regarding Linux v. Windows?

 

You forgot to add "Gaming" and that would go to, Vista

 

Relevance?

 

Sound may not be an issue in Fesity Fawn any longer. I solved my V3000z headphone jack by just recompiling alsa-1.0.14rc2 without any diff. It works well as in XP/Vista. My desktop has Realtek 7.1 channel soundcard, and it only work 5.1 channels under alsa driver with-cards=ATI.

WebCam may still be an issue for a while I guess. I still don't have any workable driver for creative pro now.

 

Eh??? Even more confusing ??

 

Hi,

This is a good comparison, for another more detailed one please take a look at:

Microsoft Windows Vista vs Ubuntu

Enjoy the comparison,
VMguru007

 

The table in the link above is messed up at the end...lol

It mixed the comments of both sides.

 

would photoshop work on ubuntu? what doesnt make me move to linux is

drivers
games
and work

im pretty happy with office 07 and im an adobe whore ^^

 

Gaming goes to Windows of course. Sad but true.

Have you at least given OpenOffice a fair trial for your documents, spreadsheets, and presentations? If there are things it just can't do, fine, but until you get past the unfamiliarity quotient it's hard to make an honest appraisal.

And GIMP keeps getting better. I only have Adobe Photo Elements, not the more expensive Adobe programs, but I'm actually liking GIMP better now than APE. Everyone says "GIMP is harder" but once you get a feel for what the developers had in mind for work flow, and memorize a few keyboard shortcuts, I think it's easier to get into a groove with it than APE.

GIMP for Linux has tricks up its sleeve that aren't available in GIMP for Windows. Pandora, the panorama plug-in, is only available for GIMP in Linux.

 

It's not that it's easier on the CPU, it's that Linux has proper task switching, and has for years, whereas Windows doesn't. A few years back I started a multi-threaded kernel compile on my multi-CPU box, surfed the web a bit, forgot I was compiling, and started up Unreal Tournament. It was playable, but I was getting about half the framerate I normally did, and I was pretty confused as to why it was slow and then I remembered the compile going on. I have done development under Windows, and when you start a compile, you just have to walk away from your machine because it's completely unusable.

 

Photoshop CS2 runs quite nicely.

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2631

 

You forgot ease of use. Vista wins purely because it more simple.

I can troubleshoot a mac and I have only played with them in apple stores because they are intuitive. Linux needs in depth technical knowldge and commands and stuff ....plain confusing, even for windows power users like me.

Also, you forgot help and support. I have had laptops fixed and help over the phone for windows. But I had my first linux problem and after posting in 2 different forums ( here and ubuntuforums) and posting into different subforums on ubuntuforums (laptop & hardware and general help) NO-ONE even replied to my threads. That was a real let down from the community I had heard so much about. Very dissapointing.

I was a potential linux user dissuaded purely by the community support or lack thereof.

 

Isn't Windows power user an oxymoron? Meh, I wouldn't know how to troubleshoot a Mac anyways.

And the community support is what got me to stick around. In fact, I liked the community so much, I'm a member of my local Ubuntu team.

 

I've posted this link before, but... Linux is NOT Windows.. Really... Windows "power-users" have the worst time moving to Linux of anyone, mostly because they don't know how computers operate, they know how Windows operates. And when something doesn't work like you expect it to, it gets confusing. I've been there The trick is to realize that when you move to Linux, unless you've developed operating systems or know things like how to mount a drive at a random folder or create junction points in Windows (they are possible), you are going to be a n00b at Linux. Period.

It depends on how you asked the question a lot of times. Most people who use Linux do so because it fills a need for them. The people who support it aren't paid, but they are often very, very smart. They don't like hearing dumb questions, or answering questions that have been answered 1000 times before in previous posts. I'm sure even you have been annoyed at things like "Can I run Halo2 on my Integrated Intel Graphics?". It's a stupid question to you, because you know it, and it's also easily researched, so a lot of times you won't waste your time even saying "Dummy, go look here". The same could have happened to you, and you may not have even known it.

I'm not saying you're dumb, or were even rude. It just may be that you've made some assumptions about Linux and the community that supports it that are untrue, and it might be worth taking a second look at it from a different perspective.

 

I don't think you can compare vista to Ubuntu... it is not fair to Ubuntu.

Even at the usage of resources, we all know Vista uses ram differently (well everyone but the OP).

Shut down and boot on my system is a draw.

Programs.. please.. I still laugh when people attempt to compare Openoffice or evolution to Office 2007/Outlook 2007. STOP THE MADNESS! Not to mention all the other great programs available only on windows. It is insane... the list could go on for days and days.

It is "much safer." Oddly enough, I've never had an issue with my windows box. Guess I'm a superior Windows user than most linux geeks. Once you get enough "newbie" users on linux (like the asus ee pc) then you will start to see this little issues. Either by mistake or accidental config, something can be left open to allow linux to be pwned.

Ubuntu is great in its own right though... it all depends on how you are using the product.

I'd say that Vista wins with most users/businesses (98 % of the world). Honestly, Vista is such a complete product, it is like comparing a horse to a jet. Yea, a horse will get you there, but a jet is much better. Then again, someone who would rather travel on a horse will tell you how much better a horse is over a jet. Whatever... still the majority of people would rather take the jet.

 

I'll admit, Office 2007 is much better than Openoffice, But Officeoffice is FREE and can do probably at least 90% of what Office 2007 can. FREE is always GREAT, but I do like luxury.

Not really unless user logs on to root. And most newbie wouldn't attempt or know how to do such.

I like Vista too as a Home user, But XP still rules the business world. And I think it's going to remain that way until MS bring out a new OS. I doubt Vista will be the next main business OS, even after a few service packs.