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    Ubuntu boots in 17.5 seconds on SSD

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by atbnet, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. atbnet

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    Very speedy, I'm sure using Jaunty helped a bit too as boot times were on their development to-do list.
     
  3. atbnet

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    I have heard a lot of great things about this version so far. Others have reported fast booting even with regular hard drives.
     
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    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Ubuntu 9.04 boots in 20 seconds and XP boots in 15 seconds on my netbook with normal 2.5" 160GB hdd.
     
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    Nice, which notebook do you have? I know my Acer Aspire One booted XP very quickly.
     
  6. Bog

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    15 seconds? Get out of here. Maybe I'm old or something (I'm 20, OK?), but XP used to boot in 45s or so when I had a Toshiba Satellite A70. Have you timed it, or are you guessing?
     
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    I have acer aspire one 150 with 160gig of hdd and 1gig of ram. It does in fact boot in under 15 seconds from cold start with original bloatware removed XP and that's worst case scenario. With custom slimmed down XP install, it can boot under 10 seconds. BTW.. i timed it with my cellphone. I rounded up or down to the nearest 5 seconds.

    I don't know about your laptop, but my 7 year old desktop computer can boot XP under 30 seconds. :D

    Normally, I just standby or hibernate instead of shutting down. I find 10-15 second boot time too slow.
    Standby: 1second Hibernate: 5 seconds Shutdown: 10 seconds
    Wake from standby: 1 second Wake from Hibernate: 5 seconds Startup from cold: 15 seconds

    So.. 17.5second full featured OS boot time isn't anything spatacular. Sequencial Read speed on my Acer aspire one netbook is about 80-85MB/s and on regular 500GB desktop hdds, it can be as high as 125MB/s.

    I've analysed my AAO, from the 1st second the computer starts booting until the last second when the computer finished booting, the cpu untilization is always 50-100% (due to hyperthreading) thus my boot time is limited by the CPU power. For a standard windows XP laptop with more CPU power with SSD, you can probably get XP to boot under 10 seconds easily with some optimizations and deframentation.

    Also... if you have fast SDHC/SD card and use eboostr program, it'll increase your boot speed, at least that's the case on my Acer Aspire One. It also make the netbook very responsive. It runs as smooth as my quadcore desktop with 4gigs of ram.

    If you want tips for speeding up your windows xp boot time, just ask. LOL
    I'm newb in Linux so I don't know a lot of tweaks for speeding linux up.
     
  8. v1k1ng1001

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    For me, XP boots slower and slower the longer you use it. Also, I need to wait for all that anti virus/spyware and firewall stuff to start up too. A fresh install of XP is not that bad though.

    But yeah, I just booted into Ubuntu 9.04 and it is fast, fast, fast!
     
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    I use Vista nowadays, and tweaking that for fast boot times is a waste of time since it still crawls even after every tweak in the book. I value longer uptimes over boot performance in an operating system. Still, those numbers for XP are impressive

    That's what they call Windows "rot." Some people dispute whether that exists, but given the closed nature of Windows, I wouldn't be surprised if the system does become clogged as programs can do anything with the registry. I don't care to debate the matter, I just use Ubuntu instead. ;) Package management and system administration is a breeze if you know how to work with the command line.
     
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    What's your system specification for your Vista specification? Vista should litterally "fly" if you have recent hardware. E.g. my quadcore desktop with 4gigs of ram and 500GB hdd is amazing.


    The majority of the time for "system slow down" is because of hdd fragmentation and antivirus clogging the OS. Once you get rid of those 2 major road block, windows actually pretty good.

    To almost prevent hdd fragmentation, I suggest diskeeper program. It'll defrag your computer with free system resources. The defrag process is fully automatic and runs super light and you won't even notice the program running unless you check the task manager. The program keeps your computer running like new.

    A good antivirus like Norton corporate will barley slow down your computer. You can purchase it through a school or corporation for under $50. It keeps your computer safe while staying invisible. I don't use antivirus on my netbook because I never get viruses. I have norton corporate on my desktop and once in a while, i use it to scan my netbook through my wireless network. I haven't gotten a single virus yet.
     
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    See the Studio 15 in my signature; it boots in about 1:30-1:45min, while my T42 takes well over 2 minutes (although I keep switching operating systems on that machine, I recently loaned it to someone).

    That's true.

    I do run Norton :). 10.2 Corporate Edition, to be specific. I got it through my university.
     
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    For me, XP boots slower and slower the longer you use it.


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    Defrag your computer and optimize the boot sequence and your boot time will return to about the same if not faster than it is new.

    Tools to use: diskeeper, bootvis

    I'm not aware of any program to defrag and optimize the boot sequence on ubuntu. Since ext3 file system almost eliminate fragments.. so i suspect defragging software would not be that useful compared to defragging on ntfs format. The main reason preventing me from using ubuntu is it's slow boot,shutdown,standby..etc time compared to my optimized XP and general compatibility issue with my software and hardware.
     
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    average vista boot time over 100thousands of vista pcs: 40-50sec. your systems are average, so having more than that means somethings bad with your config. there is a nice tool recording what takes how long. by biggest chance, it's a driver that hangs at boot.
     
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    That's pretty quick. I really want to buy a SSD for my netbook but just can't bring myself to pay for it.
     
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    I'm pretty d*mn close to that running the 9.04 RC on my e6400
     
  17. Ayle

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    I get about the same boot time on my 5400rpm 500gb HD... I don't think it has anything to do with SSDs....
     
  18. Paul

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    Or you could just use an operating system that doesn't require you to do anything to keep it booting fast. As in, anything other than Windows.

    As much as you try to argue the fact, under normal usage, Windows (even Vista after about a year) will get slower, especially in boot times. I use Symantec Corporate, CCleaner, and have disabled all startup programs besides mouse, wireless, antivirus, and Daemon Tools, and it's still slowed down since I reinstalled XP a few weeks ago.
     
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    I use BitDefender 2009, PerfectDisk and Ccleaner in Vista....man, after I boot out of linux and into Vista, it just seems dog slow man, dog slow.... :D :D
     
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    Not to impressed, my 60GB HDD boots up Ubuntu(Jaunty) with some slight tweaks in 10-13 seconds.
     
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    My windows xp doesn't require me to do anything to keep it booting fast. Windows and diskeeper does it automatically for me. I don't use symantec corporate, ccclearner, on my netbook. I have almost everything enabled in start up.

    Of course, for an average user, windows would get slower after a while. There's no arguement about that.

    I used linux for 10 years (since those early red hats back in 1999 up to the latest suse, fedora core and kubuntu). I still find windows a bit easier to use. It's too hard for me to modify,create,adjust settings under linux.
     
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    I get a 12 second boot chart on Arch Linux with my ssd
     
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    Which SSD do you have?? :cool:
     
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    64GB Patriot Warp V2 Solid State Drive
     
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    Hey,thanks so much for your advice!

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    No problem.