Well there goes the idea of trying Arch-Linux

Was doing some reading on reviews, and came across 2 great articles, basically if you have less then 6 months to a year experience in Linux, go back to distrowatch and find something else. Considering I am only at 2.5 months full time linux user, maybe its still time to stay low and use my stable Ubuntu. LoL

Maybe after 4 more months of use I will have the hang of it better. The bad thing right now, is Ubuntu has been so solid I don't have to mess with anything no more. (or should that be a good thing?) The raid-0 been working great, my games are running awesome and its fast. Arch does sound cool and I can only imagine if I ever get it to work boy I would be one very happy camper.

The aspect of it upgrading itself without having to re0install the distro. Once you install it once it will just keep itself updated. I think the thing I really was amaze with is, it was design for fast processors. They dont support the older generation's of CPU so its made for newer processors.

I should be packing my clothes right now, I leave to Guadalajara MX this afternoon. I will be there for 5 days working then coming back home. So going to stop reading and start packing. I will have both my main laptop and my work's apple laptop with me. Hate traveling with 2 laptops, but I have no choice, I need my work one, and mine is for my games. What else am I going to do in the hotel rooms. LoL

Here are the 2 articles on it that i read;

http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/04/arch/

http://www.techiemoe.com/tech/arch200902.htm
(The guy was rough on Arch on this one)

 

What I could suggest is, in case you want to mess more with Linux or Arch, you could always put it in another partition; just for the sake of it.
Then you would run into all the problems you always dreamed of and still have your stable install

 

Take it easy. If Ubuntu is stable for you and you're happy with it, then there's really no reason not to keep it. There's nothing wrong with Ubuntu per se .

I agree, though, that Arch has a high minimum knowledge requirement. A quick look around the Archlinux forums and the types of questions asked there should convince you very quickly of that. However, if you're willing and have lots of time, then it's possibly to make the jump. IMHO Archlinux documentation is more complete and comprehensive than Ubuntu documentation. I was only a 2 or 3-month linux user when I made the jump to Arch, and I didn't find it THAT hard. But then again, I had plenty of free time in my hands (senior year of high school lol).

 

I have my work in Linux, and a major consideration for me is how fast I can reinstall if I need to....that's the only reason I'm using a 'buntu release right now....waiting on Slack 13, but while I'm waiting maybe my opinion will change if I give Arch a try....hmmmm. I did install Arch over a year ago, but had wireless problems, and being short on patience chucked it. Think I'll mosey on over to the Arch site now and check it out again....

 

Wow I read that last article now, that guy took really hard on Arch.
At least he concluded that he is not the user Arch aims for. The problem is when people think that the system is wrong and not them.

And you don't need to compile your kernel. However he's right when he says you need time.

Hmm could I ask why the need to reinstall?
Because when I used Ubuntu, I had to reinstall often, now with Arch I never had to reinstall it. Actually I did install it twice; happened when I bought a new hard drive only.

Sure, it took, say, a month of using and discovering to make it work full power for the first time. But then the second time I made it in a couple days and barely having to follow the Beginners Guide anymore.
And maybe it's better to take long but install it once, than reinstalling every sometime

 

It's so fast it really doesn't matter....the only time I reinstall a 'buntu is because of my distro hopping All my work is in a VM and on the /home directory....my work get's backed up outside the virtual machine too....however, to me Slackware is perfect for this because it's so stable and easy to install....I do recompile the kernel though, but I can save that..

Arch....I'm going to give it a shot as a long term solution....just want to make sure I've got my duckies lined up because I can't run a cable.

 

Have any of you given thought to virtual machines. With a virtual machine you can use and test any Linux, Windows, Unix based system you choose. I use Virtualbox OSE (Open Source Addition), but there are others. I like this particular VM for the ease of use and its niffty snapshot feature. I can, after an install take what is called a snapshot of the system. I can then return to that place in time if I mess something up. On newer machines this is a great way to fly. On older machines the way to go, I think, is with a dual boot environment. Have you main everyday OS and then a partition to tinker with OS's.

 

"VM and on the /home directory....my work get's backed up outside the virtual machine too....however, to me Slackware is perfect for this because it's so stable and easy to install....I do recompile the kernel though, but I can save that."

Oopps, Missed that part. Sorry

 

Yeah, about that 2nd article; it just proves that arch is not for everyone. I mean, the real reason I use arch is that it's EASIER, and I'm sure everyone in that particular community agrees with me. But then again, I'm not the kind of person who doesn't care what's going on so long as it has the appearance of doing what he wants.

 

Archer that's very interesting you where a Linux user for 2.5 months when you made the switch. Now you really put the itch on my fingers. Well I did download the FTP cd yesterday witch is what they recomend in order for you to get latest of everything. The only thing that I want to try out arch is it will force me to learn the system better. Worried how to to setup raid and then to get the wireless card going. I can see how I will feel IF I can make it happpen. That's. Big IF. I can see it now I will be creating a new thread help me lol. I got the itch on my fingers now. TheZoid if you go for the install let me know how it goes for you.

 

My first arch install was such a crapjunk that I don't even want to think about it. But I learned more in those few hours than I did the preceding months. Good luck, we'll be here to help.

 

Archer how is Cedega running for you in Arch, someone in the Cedega frums post this guisde.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cedega

looks simple.

 

It's even easier, actually. Some nice dude wrote a PKGBUILD for Cedega and posted it in the Arch User Repository (AUR). Once you have installed yaourt (also very easy to do), you can install Cedega with one command:

Code:

yaourt -S cedega

Be aware, though, that if you choose to run x86_64, you will have to install the lib32 packages necessary to run Windows programs separately. You won't run into that problem if you run i686.

Before you make the jump, though, make sure you at least skim through the Beginner's Guide. It's also nice to have it handy during the installation. The wiki is your best friend. I've spent many unnecessary hours gnawing at a problem that has a quick solution in the wiki. Be wary as you read the wiki, though. The archers have a way of putting the hard solution first, and the easy solution all the way down in the bottom. So skim the whole deal before you go plucking away. A good example of this is the guide to installing yaourt.

To answer the original question , Cedega is working nicely for me on top of gnome. I'm running x86_64, so I run into funky problems sometimes, but nothing I haven't been able to find a simple solution to.

 

Ditto. I probably got pissed and reinstalled arch like 3 times before getting it right. I was using linux for say 2-5 months, I don't really remember. Arch is pretty nice but it's not for everyone...

 

Arch was really my first real linux, I'd used Red Hat and Suse before but those hide so much (especially during install) that I never learned what linux was about, etc. until I tried Arch. I really recommend trying out an Arch install to new linux users to learn the ropes so to speak.

 

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide

It'll walk you through the entire process. It's a piece of cake to get Arch up and running really, your only possible stumbling block will be with bleeding edge hardware support.

I'll never go back to a bloated distro after Arch.

 

ok guys Wish me luck once I get back from Guatalajara Mexico, I will do that. I leave on Tuesday back to the States. Maybe on Wensday my journey will begin. I must beat crysis warhead before the install, Im so close to the end must play more before Tuesday LoL

 

ok guys just finish setting up DMRAID on it. So far so good now going into arch setup.. Wish me luck LoL