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    Windows sucks - alternatives?

    Discussion in 'Linux Compatibility and Software' started by This is the name, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. This is the name

    This is the name Notebook Consultant

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    Hi
    Win 10 Sucks. I dont want any (new) Laptop with.
    How noob friendly are the current Distributions?
    I mean like Support the Notebook Hardware 100%.
    Support all weird Wifi Login Systems.
     
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    chezzzz Notebook Geek

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    Linux Mint 18.1 Serena is excellent, also Elementary is an excellent Distro too. worth trying both out, both are quite easy to install, set-up and use.
    https://www.linuxmint.com/

    https://elementary.io/

    Advantages of Linux over Windows : https://www.quora.com/What-are-all-the-advantages-of-using-Linux-rather-than-Microsoft-Windows

    How to choose the best Linux distro for your Laptop : http://www.techradar.com/news/how-to-choose-the-best-linux-distro-for-your-laptop

    Some differences between Linux and Windows : https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Windows-and-Linux

    Excellent Linux Mint Over-view Tutorial (Part 1):

    (Part 2) :

    Great Vids worth watching :

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  3. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @This is the name you can also install Mac OS if you choose your hardware carefully.
     
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  5. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    does your pc come with skylake or kabylake? If so, retain windows and simply dual boot.
    If you have SKL or KL based PC, you need linux kernel 4.8 or 4.10 to to squeeze most performance out of the system. Again, if you have NVidia GPU, you need to disable Secure boot in Linux only to install the gpu drivers. You need to look for NV drivers repo
    https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
    You may need to switch to AHCI from RAID to install Linux. Sometimes you can install Linux in RAID but I chose AHCi for compatibility reasons.
    If you've Killer Wireless and you installed TLP you may need to disable WLAN power saving to get Killer's extreme range and consistent speeds.
     
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    This is the name Notebook Consultant

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    I dont have an Laptop who is not Win7 Compatible but I need a new one who will not be win7 compatible.
    I looking for some special one.
     
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    JCarter37 Newbie

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    You mean you want a laptop that will run Linux and Windows 7?
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Intel coffee lake will not be compatible with W7.
     
  9. UNCNDL1

    UNCNDL1 Notebook Deity

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    Try a Panasonic Toughbook CF-53 you'll be very happy

    Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
     
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    Beemo BGA is totally TSK TSK!

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    Arch Linux
     
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    theoak2 Notebook Evangelist

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    Here, here! UNCNDL1

    I don't have a CF-53, but I have CF-31 MK 1 and MK 3. Both worked "out of the box" with LinuxMint 18.2. Had to install and use xinput_calibrator as sudo to get touchscreen working, but otherwise everything works "out of the box".
     
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    UNCNDL1 Notebook Deity

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    Another great Toughbook choice. I used Mint for years (LMDE) before finding MX-16 Linux.
     
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    theoak2 Notebook Evangelist

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    I feel myself being persuaded toward MX-16. So many good comments about it. What, in particular made you switch?

    Is software selections as good as Mint?
     
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    UNCNDL1 Notebook Deity

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    MX-16: https://mxlinux.org/
    I've been addicted to older Toughbooks since 2010 and started using Linux since then. I like the portable usb aspect of persistence, which MX provides.
    They have excellent videos and support and for me it was the simplicity of the xfce desktop that I liked when using Mint. The debian version of MX is similar to LMDE 1 & 2 and allowed me to quickly use Linux to log into my company server that uses Citrix Receiver. The newest version of MX-16.1 works out of the box, and has a package manager the allows you to quickly configure the base system with many features:
    https://mxlinux.org/mx16videos
    The persistent usb they show you how to make is very useful and works quite well on the Panasonic Toughbooks, both old and new alike.
     
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    theoak2 Notebook Evangelist

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    I tried MX 16.1 yesterday. For some reason, it was soooo slow on my CF-31 (with 8GB RAM) that I figured I did something wrong. So I wiped the SSD and re-installed fresh. Still slow. I changed to what I thought were faster repositories, but still feels really slow. I put Linux Mint 18.2 back on it, and it was fast again.

    MX must not like something I have hardware wise. (Probably that accursed Gobi2000 card, or maybe it doesn't like the Radeon graphics.)

    8 hours was probably not a truly good effort before giving up. When my new HDD caddy comes, I will try MX on my other CF-31 MK3 with 16 GB RAM. I'm tired of unscrewing the caddy to change hard drives, but enjoy trying new Distros.
     
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    UNCNDL1 Notebook Deity

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    theoak2 Notebook Evangelist

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    I Previously downloaded MX 16.1 64bit, but maybe the ones you reference are different, so I'll try again after my caddy comes in. I don't want to wipe my working Linux Mint until I know MX will work better, but I will try again. Too many people saying good things about MX not to try again.
     
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    I would try the latest linked, and make a persistent live USB drive on an 8GB quality drive.
    It will have most of the newest updates


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    theoak2 Notebook Evangelist

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    UNCNDL1:

    Downloaded MX 16.1 64-bit from that link you referenced, and finally got drive caddy and put MX on CF-31 MK1. This time it is working really nice.

    Not sure if DVD was bad, or file I downloaded was corrupt, but it is working nicely now. I've had it installed for a week and my only trouble was when I set it to auto-login. MX did not like that at all. Turned auto-login off, and all is well again.
     
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    Glad to hear this.
    I use it daily on a CF-53 and it works equally as well on a 29, 30, 31, C2 for me

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    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    Can a Linux machine be used as a Miracast receiver for Windows 10 machine projecting a second display, like Windows Connect feature?

    What Android emulators for Linux I should consider? Need something low-latency and smooth, without Google or other bloatware services shoved down my throat, for TouchOSC alone.
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Try this from Git https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast
    I didn't try it because at the moment I don't have a miracast compatible lappie with me. I will try it and get back to you if this works on non miracast devs.
     
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    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    @Vasudev I googled Miraclecast for Miracast and Anbox for Android emulation right away, but I would prefer to learn about reputable members experience with that and similar software, before diving in myself.

    The main reason I consider switching to Linux is that it allows higher than actual display resolution without any hardware tricks like HDMI dummy protruding out of the device annoyingly. But I need 3 things from Linux - already mentioned Miracast and Android emulation, and third - fingerprint login to device with full disk encryption without the need to use passwords. If one of these requirements is not met - then I have zero incentive to switch.
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah I haven't tried miracle cast and I'm clueless for biometric authentication and FDE based things on Linux. Usually, you can encrypt the whole disk whilst installing Linux/Ubuntu.
     
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    The newer windows is almost as good as Win 7 Pro with many added features! Should give it a trial.