Wine 1.0 Released

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Wine-1-0-Released-after-15-Years-88218.shtml

I'm really surprised no one posted this.
It seems the repo (for ubuntu) was updated too

 

Nice, nice, nice! Gaming in Ubuntu: Take 2

 

cool -i'm gonna try some more games with wine again!

 

Does anyone know if it lets you run IE7? That would be great news for me.

 

Before anyone else asks whether a certain app works in Wine, you can search the Wine database at http://appdb.winehq.org/ to find out.

 

Yep, if that's what you need (IE7), Wine can do it.
An even simpler way to install IE7 is offered by Wine-Doors.
Wine-Doors download page; link
Yotube video on how to install IE7 with Wine-Doors; link
Cheers.

PS Why not use the IEtab addon for FireFox? link

 

I'm afraid it still can't ;-(

Thanks, but it's not for IE7, it's for IE6.

I primarily use Linux, so it's not an option, and anyway, I don't need IE7 for browsing, I need it for Web development and website testing.

The only real way to use IE7 with wine I discovered is http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page, too bad it's buggy with IE7. IE6 works great, though.

Cheers.

 

Thanks, you're right, I know about this page, was just way too excited about the new Wine, so I just blurped out the question thoughtlessly, sorry

 

Darn. Daemon Tools doesn't work. What alternatives can I use instead?

 

Try these:

http://poweriso.com/download.htm
http://www.acetoneiso.netsons.org/viewpage.php?page_id=2
http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/

That should more than cover it.

 

Is ther any reason why so many games run well but MS Office is not even on the silver list ?

 

Why do you want to run MS Office when there's the great OpenOffice?

Thanks, Icewalker, I'll try them out.

 

Frankly? MS Office is at least a step better than OO as of now. Hopefully OO will continue to get better, but lets face it, some people need MS Office.

While we're at it, have anybody look at the latest version of Corel WordPerfect? It's way better than Word.

And back to the topic, it's about time. Wine has been around since what, 1995?

 

Oops.
My bad, IE7 isn't IE6 of course. Stupid.
The Tatanka link is the best thing sofar apparantly.

 

OOo covers my needs 100%, but I can understand why some people need MS Office. Anyway, last time I checked (long ago, so ting should be even better now), CrossOver ran MS Office XP like a breeze. Give it a try:

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/

 

About time? You try building the Windows API from the ground up without looking at Windows API code and see how far you get. I get aggravated when people take Wine as if it's just some trivial project and take it for granted. A lot of developers are working their ass off to get 1.0 out to you and all you do is complain that program X isn't working or it's about damn time. If you think they're taking too long why don't you go work with them and develop code so they can get it out faster?[/rant]

 

ABOUT TIME?!?!?!?!?!!?!? Read Below

 

I'm glad to see Wine 1.0 out. But, MS office not being supported fully is still my main disappointment. Yes Oo is good, but I still need to use office for a few things.

 

I need IE to manage parts of my hosting website, so I run it in VirtualBox.....just an option that works great

 

"About time" and "program X does not work" are valid criticism. It is equally valid to reply that the Wine developers don't have to cater to anybody's specific needs. But I'm sick and tired of people who get all excited about Wine. The only substantial software I've been able to run in Wine without too much aggravation is Firefox. (There was still some aggravation but not too much.) Everything else was a major pain in the ass to setup and was extremely unstable. Getting 50% of Word to work properly in Wine is as good as nothing as far as I'm concerned.

And yes, I've been to their database of applications, and yes, I've followed the instructions and no, it still did not work. It's been frequently the case that applications labeled "gold" did not start up at all. Or that they were "gold" in an older version of Wine but that the latest version of Wine broke the emulation and can't run the app anymore.

That's not acceptable. I use my laptop to do real work with real deadlines and real consequences if the deadlines are not met. I don't have time to deal with Wine's moodiness.

The end result is that for 90% of my Windows-in-Linux needs, I end up using kvm. There's a memory cost, disk cost and license cost to doing that (because you need an actual Windows license and you need to install Windows) but it is very reliable.

When I saw the announcement about Wine 1.0 my first thought was: "so what?"

 

That's all i need you to understand. When people blindly complain i get annoyed, it's like to GNU/Linux debate. I don't care as long as you know what you're saying.

 

I was suprised to find out that the 'reactos' operating system, runs most windows programs quite well, even though the ReactOS kernel has been mostly based on the 'Wine compatibility layer for Unix-like operating systems.'

I wonder if u could implement this into a linux distro the same way. lol just a random thought

 

I would love to fool around with ReactOS but i couldn't get it to work. I guess they're pretty happy about Wine 1.0 being released though.

 

I'm gonna see how improved wine is in an hour or 2. Just installed ubuntu server, Didn't realise it didn't have a gui lol. So i'm going to install xfce and gdm soon. I managed to get alot of apps working in the old wine, any improvement would be excellent

 

you said it yourself. they are doing it just to do it, and aren't catering to your needs. you can demand wine to give you a refund if you want. they most likely will.

the thing is, when you installed wine version 0.24, 0.67, 0.93, you expected it to work and be stable, when in fact, they were just getting the software out there in an incomplete form. its like a developer preview. it wasn't meant to be stable or reliable, just available.

now that version 1.0 is out, i would expect a bit more stability and compatibility from wine. people expect the release of software to be mostly in a working, stable, state. in windows, software is usually just kept from you until it reaches 1.0 status. in linux, it gets released at version 0.1 status.

so would you have preferred a buggy, mostly not working version of wine up until now, or NO version of wine...

to me, it doesn't really matter, but don't judge them for the halfway stable version of their halfway to version 1.0 software.

 

Look, even 1.0 is not supporting MS Office properly.

 

im not saying its suddenly a miracle and will run every windows program.

i am saying that new versions of wine will most likely stop breaking old supported applications.

 

MS Office requires some key files and key registry inputs... for verification and crap like that.

Who needs MS Office when you can use OpenOffice 3.0 (its fully MS Office 2007 compatible)

 

CBETA is another software which I use and does not work in Wine. It won't even install. This software is free so there's no shenanigan about verification and it is not made by MS so it is not a case of purposely writing software that won't work in Wine. (This is a piece of software you probably don't know about unless you read Buddhist texts in Classical Chinese.) I took MS Office as an example that would be immediately recognizable for most people. I could have selected Acrobat Pro as another example. It did not install when I tried it.

I'm looking forward to that. With 2.4 it is hit or miss whether MS Word documents will show up properly. Recently I got one document which I could barely read in OO. The author had inserted images in her text and I think she meant the text to flow around the images. Other people who have MS Word had no problem with the document but it looked really bad in OO.

I use LaTeX for my papers. (It supports Chinese and Sanskrit pretty well.) I use oowriter when using a word processor makes sense. But I still have to deal with people who use MS Word, unfortunately.

 

That's a nice point and all but it'll be released in time for Ubuntu 8.10, not currently available.

 

Huh?? When was I complaining? Maybe I'm cheering for them? You just assume too much. Where in the past have I complained about the GNU/Linux? And for the record, I think I've been cheering for them all this time. Maybe you should get out more.

 

Is complaining how matter how you look at it. What if you were working on making a website and you released it in 2001 originally but you've been working on it to make it awesome for 2008 and finally released it and said (while sitting down on my arse) "It's about damn time you finished the goddam website, it's been like what, 2001?!" How would you feel about that? Wouldn't you feel that you're developing skills are being doubted? As someone who develops myself i have to stand up for them on this one. They're not out to please you and your time frame so you should be happy they even decided to release it to you.