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Nobody?

 

I've got no idea about the CPU upgrade.

The GPU doesn't show up temperatures in Speedfan, which is weird. But it must have a temperature sensor. You can see this in the catalyst control center under ATI overdrive.

 

Best way I've found to moniter GPU temps is ATI Tray Tools.

 

ATI tool doesn't work for me. It doesn't even start before it crashes. It's annoying, I wanted to control the fan speeds manually using an ATI program

 

Yes the GPU does have a temperature sensor, i forgot to put that in my last post. You can see it in the ATI Catalyst Control Center.

and Lambofreak, have you tried uninstalling CCC and reinstalling it?


Blazin

 

guys, between the GTX 280m and the 4850 mobility, which is the better? A friend of mine is getting a new laptop soon and he doesn't know which is the better.

Personally, I think they are equal in performance, although I'm not so sure.

 

Weird, ATI Tray Tools works fine for me... I'm using Beta version v1.6.9.1386


As far as 280m vs. 4850... The 280m is a little better, but not by a huge amount... the 4850 should be about equal to a 260m

 

In that case, I think I'll advise him to buy the GT725, since there's the additional CPU overclocking function.

 

Less than 10 frames difference between 260 and 280, against common game index. It seems NVidia dropped the ball with this one.

 

is there anyone selling their laptop????

pm me

 

hi all i recently found a problem with my gt725 since yesterday the touch button sometimes doesnt respond i need to shut down not restart then it work again. however if the current running device is still on it, it stay there however i an not able to turn it off by pressing same goes for the others. hope u guys can help me out thankx

 

Its not CCC I have the problem with, its ATI tool.

 

And anyone still wanna buy a touchpad protector so the finish doesn't rub off?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=300321536309

 

(Sorry for all the closetogether posts) I beleive that the application that runs the touchpad is called System Control Manager (the icon looks like a small eye). Maybe you're shutting it down? Or if not when it stops working just make sure that System Control Manager is open. Or turn it on through MSCONFIG, under the startup tab.

 

Hello everyone

its been a while since my last post its nice to see the thread is still going strong lots of you owner

you guys might be interested in this

my GT725 087 uk model has given up on me the graphic card is playing up

when i m playing a decent game not even a great i mean an averge game screen was going all pick and blue graphic on the screen was a mess and lappy was keep crashing each time so i have sent it away for a repair

i will keep you update with the progress

dont let this put you off its a nice laptop and i think the reason its given up because i was the first one to buy the laptop here and i did anything to everthing on it when ever anybody ask for any test i did it so that was a lot of testing with GPU over clocking using some wired software all that resulted in this its my guess but lets wait and see what haapend next

regards

 

This is a sad moment... The first GT725 (that I've heard of) to die because of the graphics card... :cry:

 

Has anyone had issues with beeping on their GT725? Mine started beeping about 1x every 30 seconds or so and I dunno why...

EDIT - Just to clarify, it does stop sometimes, but sometimes it beeps faster than 1x every 30 seconds...I'm assuming its just overheating but just to be safe I wanted to check and see if anyone else has experienced this with a more severe problem heh.

I dont overclock it or use the Turbo function if that helps...

 

Is this a windows sound or does it come from the internal speaker? Also, what temperatures are you reaching? Check in the CCC under ATI overdrive

 

Not the first, I'm on my replacement machine since my first stopped working.

Video card refused to go into anything other than battery safe mode, and blue touch control completely died.

Still not convinced the cooling is quite sufficient on this machine. Air flow is a real problem if the exhaust vents are partially covered when on your lap. I now always use machine on a table top when using the turbo mode, or playing video accelerated games. Still time will tell. I know I should never use it on my lap! old habits I guess.

 

Dont use it on your lap....intake is under the laptop! (get a breakfast board or a hard a3 book, that works great)

The cooling is more then sufficient (if you feel it isnt, replace the thermal compound), i sit on under 70C when playing more recent games, if your not convinced set it up on a table and see if it can sustain ozone3d furmark and run it for a few hours (ive had my machine sit at 86-87 tops for GPU)

I think the ATI 4850 has overheat in faisals, its artifacting probably because of memory? I believe MSI are using a mix of pads and paste but am unsure, apparently its worth changing to something alot better though.

 

He He, I've started using a massive Norman Rockwell Book, when it's on my lap. Seems to work, but gets hard on the knees

I guess I got used to my Samsung running fine on my lap, but then it only had an NVidia 8400 GPU, so I could get away with it. Ho hum.

 

Yeah, its a shame that the fan runs 24/7 (even on real real low temps) we could of prehaps used it as a laptop that way hehe.

At the moment im using an A3 canvas, its working real well strangely enough

 

Heh, yea I never use it as a 'lap' top, its always on a desk or table, but I don't use a notebook cooler.

I think the temperature was reading 66C while gaming, and the sound was coming from the system, not windows (pretty sure volume was muted at the time)

 

Yawp i have the same sound. And i hear it all the time when i benchmark. It goes. " beeeeeeeeep" but a small tone. Its the gpu.

If u read the whole thread, i asked the same question also. When its dead quiet, you will notice it alot. But i guess its normal.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the MSI GT725-074US can run Crysis and Warhead pretty nicely on the highest settings? I can get this for about $1160 on Amazon with some gift card cash and I can't seem to find a laptop with better performance than this for the price. I was interested in the 15 inch gt627 as well (just since it's a bit more portable) but I keep hearing this one has a better build quality and having a 4850 is pretty sweet. Seems like a good deal.

 

Not the highest settings, but it takes an SLI desktop to do that. I can run the Crysis Demo on High with 2x AA and native res and it looks great. You cannot beat the performance without paying more.

 

Don't know if this has been mentioned before but if you go into the BIOS and press Alt + Ins you get a set of advanced options. Go to the Advanced tab and change the overclock percentage to 24%. By default it's much lower and makes next to no difference. After doing this change alone I upped my CPU from 5.8 to 5.9 in the Vista performance test.

 

Do you have the q9000 model, or a dual core, because i have tried all of the overclock settings (20%, 24% etc) but it doesnt make a difference.

 

Well it still beeps even when not using any graphic heavy programs, for example Im just on these forums now with a temp in the 40's (C)...I tried a search and didnt see any posts regarding beeps, did you find a solution to the problem?

 

This may sound like a dumb question, but is worth asking. Does replacing the thermal paste on the GPU and CPU void the warranty? I've always wanted to take that whole panel off to clean out the fan every few months. Does pulling that one panel off void the warranty?

 

Lambo, i dont believe so

Email MSI, and let them tell you themselves though, evidence is good! hehe, and i think cleaning should be ok, but again email.

I believe the beep is coming from the processor frequencies shifting around, the penyrin processors have a whiring sound from what i read, i have this beep too hehe.

 

Sorry for not reading through the 244 pages or anything guys, but I'm in the market for a first laptop and I want it go be one that's gonna fulfill my gaming needs, too. Would you guys recommend the dual core or the quad core model of this laptop? Will most modern games run in the quad cores 1900x1200 res or am I gonna have to drop it down to the 1680x1050 res that the dual core uses naturally?

Although the BD drive does seem tempting.

 

Thanks thats so cool! I work in a factory where they cut MDF and it gets everywhere!!! I have had to blow out another guys desktop once every two weeks because they keep overheating.

And Watevaman, the dual core version should be fine for any game you wish to play. The only reason I'd go for the quad is if I was 1. loaded with cash and didn't care about the price difference, or 2. used it for video editing or something intensive which you need all the extra grunt you can get.

 

Well, I have about $1,700 from graduation money, not sure if I'm gonna spend it on anything else. Are any of the differences good for the long run, do you think? This would probably be my only laptop for years to come.

Thanks for the help.

 

I'm using the base model (dual core P8600 @ 2.4), and I use it for 3D renderings, which are just about as proccessor intensive as it gets, and I see no need for an upgraded CPU. If you have the money, go for it, but otherwise I see no need for quad core.

 

Yeah Watev, what you could do is buy the lower end (p8600 model but it can overclock to 2.8ghz within the warrenty anyway - by the touch of a button) and save the remainder of graduation money for upgrades to the MSI when needed

Heck even grab a qx9300 quad extreme and throw it in, replace your thermal paste and pads, all sorts.

 

The 1920x1200 screen is really good for having two internet browsers side by side and still being able to read everything on both of them. As for games, I run all of mine at 1920x1200 (native res), however i have tried running them at lower resolutions and contrary to popular belief, they still look fine. If you play lots of RTS games like Supreme Commander (which is optimized for quad core), get the quad model. Also having a full HD screen (the screen is actually slightly above 1080p) and a Blu-Ray drive is very handy.

But whatever one you choose, the MSI GT725 is an awesome laptop.

Blazin

 

Stupid question here for you guys again, but the BD combo drive means it plays all CDs, DVDs, and BDs, correct? I'm guessing that's what's in my PS3, and it plays all.

 

Got an oc question, I've gone into the bios and changed the turbo button to oc 20% instead of 16%, but does anyone see any reason why I shouldn't oc the ram to 800mhz instead of 667mhz? (I'm thinking in terms of temps)

 

When you hit the turbo button in OCs the Front Side Bus, which affects the RAM as well, so 20% higher than 800 MHz for the RAM might get rough.

 

Really, I didn't know that. Interesting...

 

Yeah a Q9000, it does go from
FSB - 4 x 266 (1066)
CPU - 2.0GHz

to

FSB - 4 x 277 (1108)
CPU - 2.08GHz

Definitely not 24% as claimed, not even the base 16%. This is only a test in Sandra though, it may be related to the speedstep function.


I ran Crysis-Warhead at FullHD with everything switched on and actually found the only thing seemingly slowing it down was the HDD access. I play Fallout 3 on FullHD with everything maxed and it plaays perfectly with no excessive heat either. I love this laptop, just need a 1TB 7,200 HDD and 1066 or better memory.
In addition I put my memory up to 800MHz and haven't had any issues with it.

 

Beastlee, if you're after 1066 or better RAM, you should wait for the GT729. I don't think the CPU specs have been released yet, but its got 4gb of DDR3 @ 1066mhz. Sweet!

On another note, I emailed MSI to ask if its okay to remove the bottom panel to clean out the fans on Thursday, no reply as yet. Maybe they don't want to answer that question? Either way, so much for replying usually within 1 bd...

 

I believe your allowed to clean it lambo.

1066 mhz is pointless, you wont see anything good with it except the extra cost I think the 729 will have 1gb video ram

This machine also supports up to 8gb of ram, i believe, the chipset specification states it and i think some people tried it in the 1722 chasis.

 

Is there anyway someone can link me to the specified details on the GT725-212US motherboard? I've been trying my friend google for a while but he seems to not have the answer I'm looking for..

Still waiting on my laptop to arrive to me in Iraq so I've been unable to tear it apart to take pictures of the motherboard and whatnot..

Few things I'm curious about;
- Processor socket (Socket P?). Looking at picking up a QX9300 (2.5) to swap in place of the Q9000 (2.0). Also curious if a Phenom X4 9850 (2.5 quad-core, socket p) would work in this motherboard?
- Max memory is 4gb DDR2 and 800mhz, correct?
- Anyone know if I'd be able to swap in a 4850 1gb card?

I'm sure the Q9000 will be sufficient for a while but I'm just curious to know if it could be done.. I enjoy being a test rat so I'd love to see what kind of stuff can be done to the GT725-212US. Thanks for any and all responses.

Anyone gotten their BIOS flashed yet and used SetFSB to overclock? Just curious.

 

Can anyone speculate what the new GT729 would run for? The GT725-212US is currently top of my budget (for those who read my post above), but if the 729 is going to be released in July and it's not going to be much more, then I might just wait for that. However, even if it's $100 more, I'm probably gonna stick with the 725-212US.

Edit: And thanks for putting up with my persistent questioning, guys.

 

QX9300 will work, the cooling system should have no trouble handling it, since Q9000 already has 45W TDP (same as 9300).

No, 725 only accepts mobile intel core 2 chips.

e.g. P9600, P9700, T9600, T9800, etc. Not even Intel's own desktop CPU (E8600, Q9650, i7 920, etc) works in it, AMD's certainly would not.



The max physical RAM supported is 8Gb DDR2, if you get 2x4GB sodimm sticks and run 64 bit OS, but this is very costly atm. So to most ppl 4Gb is the line between good investment, and diminishing returns.


I doubt you can swap in a 1Gb mobility 4850, those things are not in great supply. Also 512MB difference will make very little difference in gaming performance, over the GDDR3 256bit bus; its more marketing scheme.

As for overclocking, look no further:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=4933587

Edit, Watevaman:

Given that there is no major change in 729, so GT725 will still be sold; probably will be sold for a small premium over GT725. ($100-200)? maybe not, its just my guess.

 

Much thanks

 

I wouldn't mind the extra kick in the RAM. The extra video RAM doesn't worry me at all though.

Wow! I'd say for the price your willing to spend on your laptop you could easily pick up a GT729 and upgrade the CPU. If it is only a hundred bucks extra for a 729 I'm going to be kicking myself I didn't wait for that...

 

Vram is quite neccesary for 1080p res, especially while gaming, 512 is sufficient for res under that but may have alittle bother with full HD or 1200 on tv' etc.

The only thing with qx proc is that multiplier cant be set...yet.... but who knows, MSI may have plans for a bios release, they are quite a DIY people