--->The Official MSI GT780/GT783 Owner's Lounge<---

Few hours ago wrote comparison between GTX 570M and Quadro 4000M. Both cards are very similar and their performance should be similar too. Hope so.

570M vs 4000M
192bit vs 256bit
575MHz vs 475MHz
1070MHz vs 950MHz
72GB/s vs 76.8GB/s

All Qudro 4000M scores come from Chinese site.

Quadro 4000M + i7-2710QE vs GTX 560M + i7-2630QM
3DMark06: 16401 vs 15639
Vantage*: 11062 vs 9314
Vantage GPU: 8968 vs 8044
3DMark11: P2311 vs P2031
* Psyhx On unfortunately

GPU prices on ebay & from shops (early May)
GTX 460M - 295$
HD 5870M - 350$
HD 6970M - 550$
GTX 470M - 560$
GTX 470M - 750$

GPU prices on ebay & from shops (Current)
GTX 560M - 300$
GTX 570M - ...
HD 6970M - 550$
GTX 485M - 750$ -200$ off today (end of life this card)
GTX 580M - 750$

It looks like that GTX 570M may adopt their old brother's price (~550$) and will stay equally between GTX 560M (300$) and GTX (750$).

 

Thanks midzi. I suspect the 570M upgrade (from 560M) to be around $250-300 more like you said too. Do you think it is worth it?

 

For me this upgrade (+250$) has sense only when somebody looks for still cheaper gaming notebook than Clevo/Sager or AW are.

For extra +250$ you will get only extra max 20% efficiency.

 

for those who did a clean install. were you able to install both THX apps? i can only see truStudio Pro on system tray. i forgot what the other one was called. i installed that but nothing appeared.

 

3DMark Vantage in comparison
Lenovo Thinkpad X100e - 2876-27G (min)
MV-40, Radeon HD 3200
98
...
Deviltech Fragbook DTX (W881CU)
720QM, GeForce GTX 480M
8467
MSI GX660R
740QM, Mobility Radeon HD 5870
8548
Cyber System QX18
T9900, GeForce GTX 280M SLI
8728
Asus G74SX-3DE
2630QM, GeForce GTX 560M
9227
Clevo D901F
940, GeForce GTX 480M
9277
MSI GT780R
2630QM, GeForce GTX 560M
9314
Deviltech Fragbook DTX (P170HM)
2630QM, GeForce GTX 470M
9814
...
Alienware M18x (max)
2920XM, Radeon HD 6970M Crossfire

Here's how gt780r compares to other gaming laptop taken from notebook check

 

The nVIDIA GeForce GTX 570M won't be available until sometime in August. Final configuration (processor, memory, HDD) and pricing are yet to be determined.

 

the smaller installer with _ap at the end, i think is a dud. The thx pro installer includes both anwyay. When i tried to install the 2nd install file, it just blinked and did nothing. I wouldn't bother but I really cannot tell what it does.

Looking at the installed folders, it seems the _ap installer is redundant at best.
You can see a folder named something something ap within the thx pro folder.

 

I'm glad the GTX 570m is coming to G780R but let's not get too off topic. I had to scroll through 5 pages just talking about 570m and 580m and nothing else.

*Currently working on installing ubuntu 11.04

 

yep, it does the same thing to me. but do you have two THX apps on your system tray just like before the clean install?

 

CRAP!

Do you know if they plan on using Optimus with it?

 

erm just 1 thx app in tray for me... what's the 2nd one?!?!

 

I haven't done a clean install (yet) and I only see one THX icon.

There is an icon for the Realtek HD Audio Manager. Perhaps that's the missing one?

 

that's what i remember. lol

really? i swear i saw two with the same logo right before i clean installed. lol
oh well. good news then.

 

That's not good news. I have to get a laptop for college soon.

I really want to get the MSI, but I also want to play BF3 on at least High settings. Wouldn't you think they would have the configuration set before reveal to reduce the delay between announcement and profit production?

But anyways, I registered on this forum after seeing this thread because I wanted to know a bit more about the GT780R before purchasing. I've seen the Specs vs. the ASUS G74SX on the front page, but I'm still a bit unsure about what to get.

 

I don't think the 560m will have any problems at all running BF3 on high settings.

 

Even if Msi put the GTX 570M in their laptops what are the chances of the card replacing the GTX 560M with out a price increase?

 

About Zero

 

Looking at the official image here, Spacebar appears to have one long straight line, but on my system its 2 small lines.

Nothing big here but looks like the keyboard design in the pictures aren't final (?)

Which one do you guys have?

 

It would be world greatest miracle if MSI swap the gpu with gtx 570m without increasing the price

 

570m will most likely be offered as an alternative gpu upgrade for higher end just as 470m was offered for $300 or so more on top of 460m on ASus g73sw.

 

I think it would be nice if the GTX 570M was offered as an upgrade option, but from what I am seeing, this is probably unlikely..... a bummer for existing Owners who would have appreciated such an option.

I suspect we will continue to see the existing lower priced GT780 560M models, and sometime late July-August, new 570M SKU's appearing at significantly higher premiums, based on their overall configurations. If I were to take a guess at what these premiums might be, I'd say these new SKU's will be $300 to $800 above the cost of existing units.

We know the GT780R will be configured with the GTX 570M, but MSI has not officially announced this. What we have seen from MSI however, as of 27 June 2011 (a day prior the GTX 570M announcement), changes to their Product News article, HERE, and changes to their official GT780 page, HERE! In both of these locations, now higher versions WIN 7 are seen, and more storage configurations have appeared. As such, I suspect these new premium SKU's will likely see more than just the GTX 570M, but also 120GB Intel SSD's, along with other versions of WIN 7.

Also it would not surprise me, if MSI changes the designation of these new units..... A GT783 perhaps? If this be the case, I guess I (or some other soul) will be starting a new 'Owner's Lounge'.

Just a hunch, but I think a fair assumption.......

 

farcry 2 running on gt780

YouTube - ‪[MSI GT780R] Far Cry 2 (Core i7-2630QM, 16GB RAM, GTX 560M 1.5GB)‬&rlm;

 

A bit dated and DX10, but nice FPS nonetheless!

Thanks Lt.Ford, good find!

 

MSI must use the pre-production unit to take pictures, the sample unit I saw at MSI has long long line:

YouTube - ‪MSI GT780R Sample unit‬&rlm;


And the actual production unit has 2 short line.

The design won't change and it'll still be GT780 even with GTX570M.

 

can't wait for far cry 3 , really hope i can get a rig that could play it in high setting

 

Hmm, if it is able to handle BF3 on high(er) settings with the GTX 560m, should I just order the GT780R now? I'm looking to buy from GenTech PC, so Mr. Lee, if you could assist me in ordering, that would be greatly appreciated.

 

Contact him through his website. He is great and answers all your questions quickly.

 

Ok, so you are saying it's designation will not change? That it will remain the GT780R?

Thanks Ken!

 

I don't have BF3 yet but I can go buy one and test it.

 

Sorry, I meant Battlefield 3. It's not out yet, but that's the one game I'm really looking forward to this coming fall.

Thanks for answering my question Ken. How long is the start-up time with the stock HDD's? Is it worth getting a SSD and disabling RAID-0?

 

As soon as it's available, you can bet he will buy it, and test it anyhow, LOL!

 

It will be the GT780DXR with the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 570M

 

AHHhhhhhhh, Thanks Donald! (indelibly etched in my brain!) My NEW target! Any word on available configs?

 

Are there no other details about a proposed ETA? I don't want to order it with the 570m and have it be a close call with when I leave for school.

 

The best ETA we have now is August...sometime.

 

Hopefully they will have demo version to test, if not then I'll just wait for it release.

it take 1:10 from press power button to Windows desktop with stock HDDs and RAID-0.

SSD is worth it if money is not a issue. SSD on primary is getting very popular now.

 

GTX 485m price drop zzz

 

if compare gtx 570m with gtx 485m , gtx 485m still outperform gtx 570m , am i right??

 

Hmm, would it be safe to assume that the GTX 560m would be able to play Battlefield 3 on at least High settings? Or settings that at least surpass console graphics?

Does anyone have a time frame for how long it takes for a SSD on the 780 to boot up to the desktop? Would the stock HDDs in RAID-0 configuration perform similarly to having the OS on a SSD?

I think I might just buy the 780 now and use the leftover money to customize it with a SSD as a primary. Is the Bigfoot or the Intel Ultimate Wi-Fi chip better?

 

Unlocking GTX 465 ? own research » hw-lab.com

it'll be a blessing if we could do this to gtx 570m

 

OPTIMUS???

 

Yeah, Dang It!

OPTIMUS???

 

Reminds me that I gotta see the new transformers movie this weekend

Optimus would have been SO awesome. GTX 560/570M is shut off when watching movies etc and that would have meant the fan shut off which means less noise and cooler notebook. And longer battery life. Or Dolphin emulator with using only the IGP of Sandy Bridge. TONS of possibilities.
Zomg MSI. Just contact Alienware and they will tell you how it is done

 

Most likely yes but still waiting confirmation from Taiwan.

 

OMG then I will wait for the next revision with GTX 570M

Please tell us when you know more Ken.

 

I've already decided I'm going for the GT780DXR, but now this may be an added perk.

Thanks Ken!

 

*jaw drops*

What about your current GT780R?

 

LOL!

Heck, it hasn't even arrived yet! (tomorrow or Friday)

My eldest son is on his way to Afghanistan soon, and I'm sure he would enjoy taking it with him....... or I'll just sell it.

 

Ur son? How old is he already?

Gosh, u rich fella!!

Make me ur foster son! XD

I wan a GT780DXR too =x

U sure the Optimus would be good?
It tends to mess up the performance of the discrete GPU and causes stability problems, isn't it?

 

Optimus is something I'm not totally convinced on yet. On the one side, it does make the battery so much better... but I've heard too many people complain of flickering and slowdown when using the discrete GPU. I figure its something that still needs time to develop before I look too much into it