*** MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5)/EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Owner's Lounge ***

Have you tried Prime95? Bet you'll see what 90-100c looks like.

 

I already tried that though and it makes little to no difference.. The M2's still heat up past 76c and throttle like crazy :/

Edit: Oh wait, that's saying to thermal pad underneath the m2 before installation.. I don't think my system even came with thermal pads (going to check now).

I guess you only get thermal pads if you ordered m2's with the F5.

 

LOL..

 

at 5.0Ghz I start to hit 89C... I keep it lowered to 4.5Ghz to keep it under temps when being used.

 

If you like I can cut you some thermal pads to any thickness you like, using 3M pads. (7W/mK) at 0.5mm

 

89C doing what?

 

I was looking to buy some on Amazon but they are very pricey.. If you're selling, i'd do that!

 

Are these scores normal?

 

I was just offering you for free, since it's just two strips for the M.2

 

Honestly I do not know personally, haven;t started using timespy yet.

 

Sure bud, i'd love that!

 

Your scores are quite low.

1. Make sure G-SYNC and V-SYNC is OFF when running benchmarks, otherwise you will be capped to 60 FPS
2. Make sure NVIDIA ShadowPlay is OFF
3. Make sure game DVR in the Xbox App (if you're using Windows 10) is OFF
4. Make sure in the NVIDIA control panel, "Power management mode" is set to "Adaptive"

 

Thanks, I try to entertain! Yep, it was just a rough night, but the benefit of it was that I found out what to avoid my next time around. @ keftih sent me a link with the screws for the heat sinks. I'll research and find the sizes for the other screws. Will get a better vid out in the future.

 

Yeah, in hindsight I wish I would have run a bench first before my tear down and re-paste. The scores are still better than my desktop, so I'm still happy with that. But I do think the culprit is my re-paste.

Some additional info:
-MSI Silent Fans was set to Auto
-G-Sync was set to off
-Shadowplay was most likely on.

More testing later today.

 

send me a PM for your address etc..

 

wow thats too much OC, i was just stating stock clocks with stock volts/paste.
anyway, guys anyone know how to validate monitor Hz rate? i overclock to 75 and its display fine verticalsync detector website showing 75. games with vsync capping @75fps. but i cannot validate myself since using teamviewer its choppy anyway.

edit: nvm, it was working coz i was running thro teamviewer lol. asked my brother and he was seeing black screen only. got excited for nothing :/

 

started prime95 now, 30min and max core temp is 68c, i did undervolt in xtu offset to -150
edit: 1.30 hr prime95 maxed core 80.

 

Something is up with your CPU.. There's no way you can be running that cold with the latest version of Prime95.. Are you running the torture test and SMALL FPU? (Top option)

 

Holy sheeit 5.0ghz on this laptop? Are you using liquid metal? That is just an insane amount of heat for a 15" chassis to dissipate. While I feel the cooling on this laptop is close if not the best cooling in the 15" category, it's still running close to it's comfortable thermal limits with a 1070/6700k. If we used Alienware standards of 90-100c we could eek some additional overclocking out of it.

 

oh i didnt customized anything, just download prime95 and ran for ~1.40 hrs. will test with these option when i get another teamviewer session ^^. hopefully tomorrow morning.

edit: was blend test (third option)

 

no, stock, and Im not even using great tim either, lol. 6700K are crazy good cpu's I figure.

 

Validate 5.0GHz vs. run Wpime 1024M stress tests and Cinbench R15 on laptops with this clock speed is two different things Same with 3DM11/FireStrike

 

yeah I have it stable for an hour at 4.8Ghz but it crashes under full load after 10 minutes at 5.0Ghz. But I could game with it or do anything NOT at full load and it would be fine... superPi will kill it hahaha.

until there is a bios update or fix or we get more control or I decide to delid this or soemthing I am not going to try. I might also have to return this laptop..since it has no sound at all...hopefully the third time is good, right ?

 

Ignore

 

Even blend test though would have gotten past 68C easy.. What monitoring tools are you using? There's just no way that even with undervolt you could run that cold for 1.4 hours with Blend test. Something is up with the sensors/software or your CPU isn't running at 4ghz the entire time.

 

Yeah, All good things is 3
I haven't seen serious benching or gaming with 5.0Ghz. Only 4.8/4.9GHz is stable on laptops. Even with Prema firmware.
Maybe 5GHz and up will be possible when Kaby lake comes and we get a decent silicon. But not with Skylake.
My highest Wprime 1024M stress test with 4.8GHz is 131.918 sec http://hwbot.org/submission/3357625_papusan_wprime___1024m_core_i7_6700k_2min_11sec_918ms
I haven't seen higher Wprime 1024M score with laptops.
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_-...=processor_4012&cores=4#start=100#interval=50

 

@Diversion @keftih

I'm still getting low 5000s in Time Spy. Any more tips?

 

Did a -0.150 undervolt, changed power settings to High Performance, maxed out fans, I got 13,880-ish scores in FireStrike.

Daily Driver Settings:
-0.150 undervolt
3.4GHz 1 core
3.2GHz 2 cores
3.0GHz 3 & 4 cores
Auto Fans
13,760-ish FireStrike Scores.
That score will probably be lower once I re-enable G-Sync.

CPU temperature never got above 80C, GPU didn't go above 90C.

 

You already checked all of the settings I mentioned? The only other thing I can think of is to reinstall the graphics driver.

 

why is everyone undervolting or running the CPU so low ?
It also affects your FPS.

 

@keftih @Diversion

Are these better/good?

 

In my situation the undervolt improved my FPS, but I'm also doing it to improve temperature/energy management.

 

Your FireStrike score is right in the same ballpark as mine.

 

Can't really claim 5Ghz then in my eyes, only if it's 100% stable under full load. Your 4.8Ghz sounds more realistic.

 

Shame to run a 6700K at such reduced settings. :-( I'd imagine that you'd at least be able to run 6700K at stock settings with a good repaste.

 

Rather up voltage with 50mv from stock and go for 4.8/4.9GHz. All the talk about undervoltage is a blind mans work. Start with fixing thermal paste and tune your heatsink Gods name. You have a desktop chips... Not a low binned i7 BGA Crap with following heatsink intended for low TDP

 

That's genius!!

Raise the Clock rate to match the overvoltage setting in the BIOS!!

The stock voltage isn't too *high*, the stock Clock rate is too !!LOW!!

 

Thanks brother @hmscott You have understood this. +rep Maybe others could do it too? We have alread the Bios with more than stock settings. +TS and Xtu. Grab it Let the stones roll. I meant Benchmarks

 

it's actually (for some odd reason) 4.760Ghz like it says the blc is 100.00 but it's really not either. But that one is fully stable, it's been on for a day, and I even forgot to remove the overclock when flashing.

 

haven't seen you in ages...

I haven't touched the voltage at all yet. Not really sure which is what.... what I achieved was on stock voltage, just increased the potential power/Ampheres...

 

yes max was 80c, 68c was during 1st 30 min or so. average was ~74 it was 4008 mhz on all cores in open hardware monitor and xtu. also seeing how others are getting ~90c on gpu mine never exceeds 74 i did heaven benchmarks for continuos 2.30 hr yesterday max was 74. im not sure about fans but my brother claimed that it was quiet silent. i'll post a video tomorow.

 

i see no improvements in fps in stock voltage and undervolting but much better temps. with stock it reached 85 and 80c quit often with -150 its tocuh 80 for a sec thn back to ~75c never pas it. dont think i can overclock with 230watt anyway im getting over 100fps on games that i play so its plenty for now.

 

Seems about right. The voltage offset is 100% necessary if you plan to run stock. The default voltage for me was >1.3v which is ridiculous for a 4.ghz setting. That's close to what an overclocked desktop setup is using.

 

it's more then I use on my 5820K at 4.5Ghz all 6 x cores.

 

Although 4.4/4.5Ghz is probably gonna be the sweet spot for most chips I think, 4.8/4.9 usually requires quite a bit of voltage & then you're talking heat & power!

 

My desktop is at 1.29V for 4.5Ghz. 1.3V for 4Ghz is a lot!

 

>1.3v is more than enough for 4.7GHz

Something is terribly wrong with your XTU benchmark score. Several hundred marks lower than normal for 6700K@Stock clock http://hwbot.org/submission/3335915_mikiwolf19_xtu_core_i7_6700k_1317_marks + up to more than 1300 in XTU bench with stock 6700K!!

Your XTU score is even lower than from Crippled low powered fully locked 6700hq BGA trash http://hwbot.org/benchmark/xtu/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_4428&cores=4#start=0#interval=20

Please test with Wprime 1024M stress test. Run it a Admin. Select 8 threads and run wPRIME v1.5 [A good tool to benchmark and stress test]
Test also with CINEBENCH_R11.5 and CINEBENCH_R15

Run Hwinfo in the backgrund for monitoring cpu behaviour HWiNFO64 v5.40 Put up Hwinfo as in the pict.

Spoiler: Hwinfo64 setup

Use high performance in Win power plan

 

ah ok i'll do these today just waiting for US to wake up 1st ^^. that does seems quit low however i didnt had any problem with games.
edit: i think i had prime95 running in background when i did xtu bench. i clicked cross on prime but it was there in the system tray, not sure if thta affects.

 

HaHa, Yeah maybe the culprit... Because A fully functioning 6700K shall provide more than 836 marks in XTU bench. Being underperforming by a fully locked [email protected] TRASH is not fun

 

Yes it is a lot. I run my desktop 5820K 4.2ghz on all 6 cores at just 1.17v! This is why Eurocom needs to release an unlocked BIOS so hopefully we can fine tune the system. Right now using XTU to offset the voltage is fine but I find for whatever reason it won't stick after reboot or resume like it always has for me in the past. It's possible DragonnGaming Center is interfering and I need to test that later.

I'd rather just set it and forget it in the BIOS though.