*** MSI 16L13 (Eurocom Tornado F5)/EVOC 16L-G-1080 15.6" Owner's Lounge ***

It will be very interesting to see how a 150W GTX 1080 stacks up against a ~120W GTX 1070. I'm guessing the 330W power adapter will be required for the 1080 model?​

 

first time using passmark, but here : http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V9/display.php?id=73145855676

just keep in mind this was a 980M and some old HDD I had, not testing a M.2 and this is not my overclock, but rather what I run when on battery.

 

going to run another test on AC power... will just edit this post..

 

As long as the laptop can cool the 1070 effectively and as long as it's not power gimped, then this is a better gaming option than an i5-6600K desktop chip + 1060. This is also assuming that you won't be able to upgrade the GPU with future generations. GTX 1070 is a lot faster than GTX 1060 (see following links): 16704/11580*100 = 44% faster based on Firestrike Graphics Scores.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1070-Laptop.169549.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile...060-Laptop-Benchmarks-and-Specs.169547.0.html
This is a lot more important for better gaming performance than the CPU (as much as we hate BGA of course!). 6700HQ won't bottleneck GTX 1070 in most games if you're aiming for only 60fps on a 60Hz screen, I'm not sure I could name one (maybe BF1, but no personal experience in that one).

 

Now with a GTX 1080, I think it needs a new name...

FireStarter F5 !!

http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,384,0)ec

Spoiler: Fire Tornado

 

agree! also with 7700k seems best laptop in 15inc form factor!

 

Is this a good score with a i7 6700k at 4.4ghz. I just installed it last night and still messing with the undervoltage

-.70v undervolt when I did it

 

temps a bit too much, maybe with repasting they come down or with max fan. score is alot better thn what i have tho. do u have dual channel ram configuration?

 

Here's my F5 - http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V9/display.php?id=73149059272
That's with stock paste, 0.150 undervolt and a samsung evo 850 ssd, no overclocking, fans on auto. Interestingly the ssd is showing a max temperature of 53 celsius. I was thinking about thermal pads after reading the previous threads about high ssd temperatures but maybe I don't need to bother.... Max temp on the cpu on this test was 42 with a max core temp of 59 (I think I reached 68 on the XTU stress test).

 

weird your graphics score is less thn his 980m.

 

So I was playing gta 5 and temps were good. I turned off v sync and lolol I turned it back on. Temp on CPU was like 90


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Yeah it's quite a bit lower isn't it....

Also I think the cpu temperature was under-reported in passmark, when I checked in xtu it had reached a fair bit higher.

Has anyone else done passmark on a 1070?

 

Make sure u turn off g sync and vertical sync in nvidia control panel. Also make sure everything is in high performance mode like power options


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Ah yes, I had adaptive power on, maximum power gives 9290

 

Does anyone know how to access the bios menu on this?


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I might be one of the first brave folks to buy the 7700K/1080 version of this notebook. My last wish is if it had the 120hz 5ms 1080p TN panel that is currently available for the Clevo 750DM2.

 

yes but to be fair, I also know what I'm doing, lol. j/k yeah his score is low. considering my intial score your seeing was on battery too, LOL..

I could get a much higher score, i filmed it when i was on my cell, to prove this was on battery and such, and made it show me getting a much higher score plugged in too.. but I got busy when uploading and waiting for ages to upload it to youtube.

 

I haz full access to all menu's... mind you half this **** I have no idea what to do with...

 

I wish I had a M.2 drive and a 1080N or 1070N for testing... I would create a score no one could beat for a few years heheh

 

Well I now know who I'm going up against when I pick my 7700K/1080 F5 up.

Mind you, a certain OC'er, Mr. Fox, will be testing the machine with the same built. So the both of us are going to be going up against a mountain, hahaha.

 

"Delete" key

How is the "1070N" different from a standard 1070?

 

Sounds like fun, though I'm not going to really try and be competitive, if I do I will do it with another persons name and account, and send them my hardware.

For a moment,imagine if I was advertising perform +50% better then average performance, then when people purchase they are disappointed. But if they purchased from me, they will contact me, and ask me a bazillion questions on how to, etc.
They will also expect I am supporting such crazy configurations, I would just be stuck spending all day doing tech support for charity. Trust me, this is what happens if we really start trying. If your new and people don't know you, it cool, your inbox doesn't flood with 50+ messages overnight.
As it is I get like 10+ a day which is great. double that or more, and I'd stopped logging in and start ripping my hair out. LOL

 

Between this machine and the P870DM3, I'm going to have my hands full. I might be new to this community but I have a vast amount of experience with computing and I have no problem with helping others. I do get your point about the popularity and having people fill your inbox with questions/comments. My XBL account is still flooded with friend invites/messages after almost a year and a half when a famous youtuber trolled my friend and I.

 

lol you got trolled... got a link ? no shame in a good laugh now right ?

 

Good. I want to see some of those hardcore overclockers and tweakers to jump on the F5/F6 train.

 

What 120hz display? For a 15.6" inch?

 

The 1070 notebook has more cudas than the desktop variant but is clocked lower.

 

did some overclock, seems im power throttling, guess will need 330watt.

 

We are testing this week 7700K and DDR4-3200. We will publish results on our website.Please direct your questions to [email protected].

 

that's awesome good luck! hope you get excellent result and existing owners get bios unlock too!

 

when will the 7700k version be ready for sale?

another Q: will you guys ever consider a 17 inch version of tornado F5?

 

MSI builds the barebones model 16L13 that the Eurocom Tornado F5 is based on.

We would need to ask MSI to build the 17.3" version barebones model, a 17L13?

 

yeah it's true I don't know what I'm doing, it's the first time I've messed with any of this stuff! I'm actually really happy with the way the machine runs out of the box though, my main reason for running passmark was to have a look at the ssd temperatures under load and it looks like I don't have the problem others have described. Having said that I think I might have to get serious and see how far I can push this beast. I'd actually ordered the machine with the straight 6700 but eurocom upgraded me to a 6700K so it seems a shame not to take advantage of it

 

did u check nvidia setting? you may have g-sync enabled that will limit your your fps so better check that.

 

yeah I turned g-sync off. Running the dx12 test gives a 60% penalty for not having a 4k screen, not sure if that affects the overall score in any meaningful way? Anyway running the tests with the power settings set to full power gave a result in line with the global results for a 1070 ( which I guess include the desktop version ) so it doesn't look like there's anything particularly wrong.

 

Alright. So I sent the Goldmax guys an email, and they replied and told me they'd be very happy to assist me with a Tornado F5 purchase - I just had to send them screenshots of the specs I wanted from the Eurocom site and they'd give me a quote.

So I did that on November 23, and....never heard back. If they're this slow selling me a laptop, I can only imagine what a support/RMA situation would be like.

I guess I'll be waiting for Cyberpower UK to get the 1070 back in stock in January. Kaby Lake should be available at the start of the year as well, right?

 

Hey Kasper - I'm in the UK and I ordered one from eurocom in the states. It was all very fast and easy - I ordered on a saturday and it arrived 9 days later with no customs/import problems.

 

Yeah, I just realized the "N" stood for "Notebook"

Looking forward to the BIOS update

 

Hello Guys
Yesterday I received my new toy for 599 USD
MSI 16L13 GTX 970M 6GB / I bought a new MXM GTX1060 6GB for 190 USD, soon I will exchange.
i7 6700K - 285 USD installed
DDR4 2400MHz 16GB. -100 USD /on the way
15,4'' UHD 3840x2160
Samsung 960 EVO 250GB -125 USD /on the way
Delid die Guars +GC-Extreme -40 USD


Have tried someone before Delide this machine before?
I'll be doing it for the first time, I hope everything will be fine!

For now the i7 6700k at 4.2GHz 95W and 100% stress test max temp. 80'C Fan max speed.
CineBench 11,5 Score: 9,5

3Dmark Fire Strike score 7373. /Graphics Score 8354
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11063795

Cpu i7 6700K 4,2GHz/ temp 50-55'C (fan 70%) during plaing the Division 1920x1200 high setting (fps 50-60)
Gtx970m Gpu clock 1084Mhz/ Memory clock 3000 MHz temp 60-65'C (fan 70%) during plaing the Division 1920x1200 high setting (fps 50-60)

The Division at 3840x2160 looks amazing! even at low settings (FPS 50-60)

 

damn it msi!!! step up and make a 17 inch version!!!

 

I almost bought this deal as a back up/parts laptop. Hell I could have sold the 970m for $350-400 making it an very very good deal for a tinker bench.

Excellent deal you got, welcome to the club. In the mean time you should flash or get that vBIOS unlocked. Push the 970m to her limits since you have the cooling capability.

Where did you get a 1060 for so cheap?

 

nice deal!, where did u got 1060? its new? even desktop gpu is expensive lol great purchase. also mind telling where you got de-lid guard? i searched amazon/ebay but didnt find any.

 

Yes, we are working on Tornado F7 - it will be Coffee Lake platform with 6-core CPUs. Regarding 7700K please check with [email protected] for details.

 

Wow, Coffeelake? You guys sure plan super far ahead. 6 cores! I would love to see the cooling in that beast to be able to cool a ~120W CPU.

 

Talk about planning ahead.. that's not going to be released for another year.

 

Hey @Eurocom Support when will the bios update be released again? Also is the cooler boost button on the laptop the fastest the fan can go, or is there possibly higher rpms that it can spin at? I wouldn't mind the extra noise for extra cooling


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Yeah. But the thing is, if it's snatched in customs, I'll have to pay +25% of the total amount in sales tax (plus some minor custom and handling fees) - and then it's suddenly not such a good deal anymore. That's why I'm looking to buy it from somewhere within the EU.

 

I'm playing catch up with the thread but wanted to get some updates out to you all in case any one else is has the same questions.

Since I am running Windows 7 I am probably in the minority but maybe someone else can benefit.

For Soundblaster Cinema 3 I was able to use the same method posted in the thread already (Install the Realtek drivers off the disk and immediately afterwards (without a restart!!) install the Soundblaster Cinema 3 drivers, also from the disk. (Thank you!)

However, if I run SBC3 then my GPU clocks jump to their load clocks (1443mhz core 2000mhz memory) and remain there without boosting under load or downclocking at idle. If I start my computer and don't run SBC3 but leave the icon alone in the taskbar then my clocks act normally (downclocking at idle and boosting under load). But I don't know if I am reaping the benefits of SBC3 since I have not actually launched the program, but the icon is still present in the taskbar.

Also, regarding M2's and their heat issues, I have not had a temp over 55C on Windows 7 even when moving large files (Doom 2016) from an external HDD onto the M2 drive. I have both M2 slots occuppied with Samsung EVO 500 Gigs but I have NOT installed NVME drivers. I think if you want cooler temps and can do without NVME then thats the way to go but again, this may just be my experience with Windows 7 as opposed to 10.

 

my dream laptop right now is 7700k + 1070 + 17 inch 1080p between 1600-1800 usd. make it happen please. hell I am willing to forgo the 7700k for a 7700 if I need to to stay in the price range. 200-300 premium for a size increase + bigger screen should be fair?

 

well tbh tornado is perfectly size, also they have other laptops that offer 17inch and can be upgraded to 7700k.