MSI GE63VR / GE73VR Raider Laptops

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https://us.msi.com/Laptop/support/GE63VR-Raider.html#down-driver (click on Audio) and,
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/support/GE63VR-Raider.html#down-utility (click on Nahimic VR)

Download, extract, install...but first, uninstall your older drivers using http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html, and firmware.

 

Have down as suggested and it does seem to have made a difference in volume. Cheers for that! There is still no bass compared to the ancient dell which could make the furniture vibrate with it's deep booming bass. The MSI sounds kind of tinny by comparison. The volume is broadly equivalent if I max all the sliders in the equaliser part of nahimic but no amount of fiddling can get the furniture shaking deep richness of the DELL. But it is better than before in terms of volume and I appreciate the advice. I suspect however the subwoofers in the MSI aren't capable of the same kind of sound that the DELL JBL sound system can do. Understandable I guess as the DELL is larger and heavier and has larger speakers presumably.

 

Well i am afraid i have to agree you on that. As i have said earlier, no problems in audio so far. Not an expert in this but i am suggesting what i know so far.
1. you need to play with the SMART LOUDNESS and CLAIRTY in the nahimic software for extra volume. select extreme if you want more volume. you might know this already
2. Open realtek software and change the default format to your desire.
And Yea Subwoofers in this MSI is meh..... I have this old samsung np550p5c-s02in with JBL speakers and 1 woofer(5W). The woofer is better in samsung. We have 2x3W woofer in MSI by the way.

 

Yeah the volume is adequate and if I'd never heard the DELL I'm sure I would be very happy with the sound quality. The main issue is lack of bass. I've fiddled with every possible setting but there is no software than can compensate for the physical differences between the JBL subwoofers of the DELL and the smaller ones in the MSI. I'm just used to feeling the ground shake and I miss that. In 5 years when I upgrade again, I will make sure I listen to it before I buy. Everything else is fine. (Though would be nice to have a little bump on the down arrow to easily locate it but I can fix that.)

 

please try out the settings I have here, I believe you will like the results. the settings are as follows
*bass boost 100%
*treble and voice clairy at 45%
everything else off.
on 2nd tab i have the frequencies adjusted in the following levels
0, 5, 4, 0, -2, -2, 1, 1, 2, 0
this should give some really nice bass and overall clarity. Of course if you need more loudness, adjust the smartloudness. these are the settings I have found to be the best on my ge62vr, the speakers on the ge63 may be a bit different but these should still make an amazing difference over default.
https://imgur.com/qQt6uaJ
https://imgur.com/Xvp42Wu

 

JBL speakers are so damn good. The only reason i am still keeping my old samsung is the speaker on it.

 

Thanks for taking the time to write that. I have copied those exact settings and it is probably the ideal setup for this laptop. I have a GE63VR and it sounds ok especially with the above settings but still a stark difference compared to my ancient DELL. The big booming bass I'm used to hearing just isn't there.

 

Damn, I was choosing the thicker GE over the GS for the speakers. If I need to use headphones for good sound anyway, might as well get the GS and have a thinner laptop.

I have a Dell with a JBL sub too!

 

Surprised to hear people aren't blown away by the sound with all the improvements that were made. It surely has to be way better than what clevo offers on the pa71hs. Has anyone heard both?

 

I must be the only one impressed. I mean I think my GEVR speakers sound better than my 49 inch LG tv speakers personally.

 

If audio is that important to you, I don't know that I'd be relying on a laptop for its speakers. Are the Raider speakers better than most? Probably. Are they the best ever? Probably not. They are good enough however, especially when you factor in the size of the chassis.

To the guy who said he mise well buy a GS if the Raider speakers aren't the best, I'd ask if you are willing to deal with the higher temperatures and possibly lower system performance due to throttling? If the answer is yes, then yea, sure. Go with the GS. Fact of the matter is that the Raider speakers are much better than the GS and the Raider isn't going to be drastically less portable.

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I'm sure the raider speakers are well above average. It's only if you have gotten used to the JBLs on a previous laptop that makes the raider's (and probably any other laptop's) sound disappointing. I never realised till now just how good the JBLs were. It's not a small difference.

 

I think a lot of people are under the impression that just because the Raider is a newer laptop than a 4 year old XPS, it should have better speakers.

Speaker technology moves at a snail's pace and hasn't significantly changed in decades.

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So if speaker tech doesn't change then why can't then remember it is important and put a real speaker system in a gaming laptop? The Dell was not that big!

 

I think the problem is the best sound needs bigger heavier speakers and that means bigger heavier laptops. One of the criteria in choosing the raider was the weight and thickness. I'm disappointed with the sound being worse than my 6 year old DELL. But the DELL was 3kgs and nearly 40mm thick. While I wish I could have both, I'm happy to settle for good (but not great) sound if it mean's a smaller device to carry around. The JBLs were the best but I think only the lenovos still use them, probably because people want lightweight more than they want the best sound possible.

My DELL was loud enough and bass enough to use as the sole source of music at parties without any additional peripherals. I think I was being unrealistic expecting the same from a thinner lighter laptop.

 

Its simple A B C because all gamers use headsets we are gamers not DJs

 

MSI probably did the best they could do with the amount of money they wanted to put into the speakers on the Raider. The Raider lacks two very important aspects. Mass and volume.

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Thanks for the feedback @hmscott

And thanks @Donald@HIDevolution will try out the drivers

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Managed to get even lower temps (from 88 degrees Celius max to 86) by going from -0.135 to -0.140 (temps again from GTA V max settings for 30+ mins)

 

wow that was very good temperature on stock paste? did u already undervolt with that result ? hows the GTX1070 temperature?

man, i think @Donald@HIDevolution doing his magic trick on your laptop thermal cooling LOL

 

No im on Coollaboratory/IC Diamond, didn't check gpu temps i thought it shown on that log.

my fans were not on maximum power and yes i was undervolt - 115 now i raise it up to - 130 maybe i can log later if someone interested.

 

Djs use headphones as well, certainly don't like any laptop speakers.

 

Don't know if this review was posted yet but it was done a while ago. All in all, it's a pretty good review. The real world temps are great.

https://www.hardwareheaven.com/2017/08/msi-ge73vr-7rf-raider-review/

 

2nd day using my Raider - Everything 'was' flawless!

While using my laptop today reading documents, a "long, blue line of pixels" just appeared out of nowhere (in the middle of the screen, a very thin blue line) and won't want to come off. Tried reinstalling drivers and it's still there. Stuck pixels fix didn't work as well. Are those dead pixels? Has anybody experienced this with their Raiders or am I just unlucky?

 

sounds like dead pixels/lcd issue. probably need a new lcd. the line is vertical correct?

 

Yes sir, vertical, very thing and light blue. It's absolutely frustrating because 1- It's in the absolute middle of the screen and 2-the laptop is flawless regardless. Does MSI accept dead pixel screens on warranty?

 

I believe they have a 3 dead pixel policy for warranty but dont quote me on that. If you have more than 3 dead pixels there, they should do warranty repair.

 

Lol, it's a whole line. I'll try contacting the reseller first and see what they can do. Thanks!

 

I didn't realize an entire line of pixels would just die out of nowhere. Sounds like it could be something else going on.

Let us know how the reseller handled it.

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It happens sometimes, the lines will either be blue, red, or green and vertical. Thats usually indicative of lcd itself. For EDP, like the msi, it would not be display cable unless lines were horizontal or there was flicker/flashing.

 

Sorry for the delay in responding. We had this visitor called "Irma" that kept the power off for longer than one would like it. You guys have been busy as I see I have many pages to catch-up on.

The paste I use is Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra. Yes i know the jury is still out on it's long term effects but will see what things look like with the annual repaste.

Any temp post that does not include ambient temperature has to be suspect. If your room temp is 85 or 65 degrees fahrenheit this needs to be know so the system temps can be put in perspective.

Currently running a -127 undervolt and have sytem lifted with the rubber furniture pads I posted about previously. Granted this is not the latest greatest game but here are my temps after 3 hours of gaming.

For the sake of clarity this is the 17" GE73VR. At it's current setting it runs quieter and cooler than my much larger GT72.

 

If your room temp is 85 or 65 degrees (°C), I expect yoo would be dead by now

 

Not sure if this has already been answered but when I asked about this I was told that it does not have a DAC. The DAC shown in most literature is for the large Titan series. I currently am using a BlasterX G5 with my GE73

 

True. Post corrected to indicate Fahrenheit in case there is any confusion.

 

Welcome back

Did you undervolt and tune the GT72? Maybe you can get some more useful life out of it with a little of the same tuning?

 

Yes, there is a MSI dead pixel policy that definately covers that many dead or malfunctioning pixels, don't worry

But, it can be a number of things, from the screen to the drivers feeding the screen to the GPU itself, you can RMA it and find out, or if you just bought it you can return it for another unit from the seller - or a refund to get it somewhere else if they have no more of that model in stock.

Please come back and let us know how it works out

 

Yes I did also with a repaste. It is currently serving as my media server / transcoder until I determine which family member is worthy of a still very relevant system.

 

See post #503 for screenshot and additional info

Bios Data -
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. E17C1IMS.102, 7/20/2017

 

Speaking of giving old systems to family members, I gave my 4 year old daughter my GT70 and she loves playing Minecraft on it. My daughter and I will sit next to each other, both in front of our notebooks and my wife will just shake her head and say....."Who didn't see this coming."


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So... No news yet. I was just hoping the screen will "fix" itself if I leave the laptop off for 9 hours. I guess I'll just give it a shot and check with the reseller.

Otherwise... No, it's hardly a drivers issue because the line shows in the Bios/Boot menus too, meaning it's definitely a faulty screen shipped by MSI. It's too sad because I'm loving the unit thus far.

 

I meant the physical hardware drivers, not the software drivers.

 

I very carefully replaced the 1TB drive with a 2TB, and added a samsung 960 PRO to the 2nd M.2 slot. After removing the 11 screws it was scary trying to coax the plastic cover to come off!

Anyway, what I want to do is clone the 256gb C drive to the 512gb samsung. Would super appreciate some guidance here.

1. What is the best free software to use to clone it?

2. After cloning it, how do I set the samsung as the new bootable C drive? I'm hoping I don't need to physically swap the M.2 drives around.

 

As you purchase Samsung, you can use Samsung's own tool... Samsung Data Migration software. The Software and guide is in the link http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html

 

Yeah I just rebooted after cloning the drive using the samsung utility and setting it in bios. I thought sheeettt it can't be that easy! I was right...

"The disk is offline because it has a signature collision with another disk that is online" Is what I get in Disk Manager. That's the samsung disk. Ok I will do some more googling but if anyone happens to know the simple answer, I would appreciate it muchly!

 

Ok it seems it was pretty simple. Final step was to set the samsung online in disk manager, then reboot. Apparently setting it online writes a new unique signature. I was expecting it to be harder than it was.

 

I'm going to be buying my laptop today once it's business hours on the west coast. Can someone really quick tell me what kind of battery length you are getting with just light work/browsing? Thanks!

 

More news!
I've just called RueDuCommerce's Customer Service. Everything went smooth and I should receive a replacement within 5-7 business days. Hopefully second time's a charm!

 

Battery Life run time is very dependent on your hardware configuration, applications, and OS power settings. To maximize your battery life your screen brightness should be turned down as low as you can make it while still being able to read it comfortably, and it should be set to turn the screen off after so many minutes of non use (this can be done automatically once you have adjusted your settings in Control Panel>Power Options>Power Saver), any unnecessary programs running in the background should be exited, your wireless and Bluetooth cards should be off if you are not using them. If you have your settings at max battery life you should expect around 3+ hours with normal computing.

 

do you still have the dell or did you sell it?

 

Can someone tell me the exact size and arrangement of the various partitions? I've messed things up and the image recovery wont work unless the partitions are precisely factory default. Which they no longer are on mine.

My 256GB ssd (after I messed it up):

cmd prompt (administrator)

diskpart
sel dis 0
lis par

Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Recovery 554 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 System 329 MB 556 MB
Partition 3 Reserved 128 MB 886 MB
Partition 4 Primary 237 GB 1015 MB

I'm certain the above is NOT the factory default!

Would super appreciate it if someone could do the above commands and paste the result. Assuming of course you have a GE63VR with 256gb ssd

 

how did you "mess things up" and what are you trying to accomplish with image recovery? This is the cloned disc correct? Did something go wrong in cloning that messed with partition sizes? they shouldn't have been changed at all through a cloning procedure.