MSI GE63VR / GE73VR Raider Laptops

this review is good i think, meanwhile the spec is GTX 1060. still waiting the user from this unit to appear and posting some news here.

 

Nope, not at all. I personally wouldn't want my CPU running close to or over 90. Just stating that Kaby Lake runs hot and I blame that on Intel becoming complacent due to having no mobile competition for the past decade.

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Before undervolting, i played BF1 single player in ultra preset and temperature for CPU peaked at 89C(average is around 78C-83C) while GPU temperature stays below 70C "WITH" cooler boost.
After undervolting cpu at -100mv, the same game, cpu stays below 82C(highest peaked) "WITHOUT" cooler boost. average temperature is 74-78C. Its not what i expected with the new cooler boost 5 and extra vents, i expected more. So dont expect a good cooling capacity like bigger and better GT series. One thing to remember. i have 28C as ambient/room temperature
1 other game i tried is BF4 multiplayer 64 players server. With cooler boost max temp 76C... It was maxed at 85C before undervolting.

 

Yea true it wont be as good as GT series in term of thermals, but this is what i paid for and this is what i get. So for now i am quite satisfied(not so much) with it. undervolting my cpu helps a lot and it reduces the temps about 8C. You can see my post above.

 

No, but the Alienware 15 thermal pads and total thermal solution out of the box is...well...ugly.

 

No, you can't have 2x PCIe NVMe SSDs. It supports 1x M.2 PCIe NVMe or SATA + 1x M.2 SATA + 1x 2.5" SATA. Three total, but only 1x PCIe NVMe.

 

There are no 'import' taxes, just your HST/GST/PST...whatever applies where you are. No different than buy it locally. Shipping is pretty cheap too. Just configure the model you want and click Add to Cart. Then enter your Ship To address as you Checkout and it will show you the available shipping options and their cost before placing your order. You can then decide whether you want to place your order.

 

I think @jrwingate6 works for Dell Tech support... "no sir, unless your CPU reaches 105C, we cannot send you a technician, it's perfectly normal, just put some eggs in a pan on your taptop and enjoy some Dellienware dinner...... thank you and try again..."

 

Well I've decided on this one I think and looking for some must do mods from the reseller. I'm doing a repaste, removing the hdd(don't need it, saves weight and battery) and I'm debating 16 or 32 ram. Also you can get an Evo 960 1tb for around 350 right now so I'll most likely go the cheapest sata as well. How's this sound? Anyone have any problems with pixels yet?

 

The final price on the cart doesn't include HST (I'm in Vancouver) though, correct?

So when will that be charged then?

 

Currently working on undervolt threshold and at -120mv under Intel CPU stress test the peak reach by the CPU was 60c. Maybe I just got lucky with this system but this is more than acceptable for me.

 

That's not just acceptable - that's incredible!

I cannot recall a 15" gaming laptop which comes even close to those temps

 

We do not collect taxes for Canada. You pay that to the shipper upon delivery.

 

I fix it for you, bruh

Why blame Intel for all the overheating problems, and not the OEMs who push out thinner, flimsy Apple designed laptop chassis with inadequate cooling? If this sick direction being reversed we could have something like This or this!!

Edit. This is a step in right direction. Just sad Asus don't changed the internal hardware when they finally understood they shouldn't follow AW,Razer, Aorus and Apple.

 

What are the temps playing The Witcher 3 on Ultra?

I found a comment on these forums pointing to this worrying review (googletranslate it from polish):

https://www.purepc.pl/notebooki/premierowy_test_msi_ge63vr_7rf_raider_nowa_jakosc_serii_ge?page=0,22

Any thoughts?

 

Surely there's no way GT62VR has cooler temps than GE63VR - this has a better cooling system compared to that laptop afterall

I suspect those temps are incorrect

p.s. Not to mention, GS63VR has even better temps according to that article. Rubbish

 

Correct...that is total rubbish...even with the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 or nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q the GS63VR temps are higher than the GE63/73VR with the full nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070!

Where to these people get this stuff...it is SO MUCH better to rely on users reports of temps in this forum.

 

Maybe I don't get it, but shouldn't the GT62VR run way cooler since it is way bulkier than the GE63VR?

 

Bulkier, but only has 2 huge exhaust vents from the rear while the Raider has 4. I'd say the temps would be identical.
The GE63VR immitates the cooling solutions seen in the GS63VR and the GT73VR even, cooling should be in between these two. The GT62 is however much quieter.

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Fact is, the GT62VR does not have lower temps than the GE63VR.

 

Damn. That's awesome. What paste are you using?

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Im currently on -130mv. aida64, 3dmark firestrike all stress done. no problem so far. You can try it if you want. We have the same laptop.

 

Here is a review of the GE73VR if you don't mind translating. It has some good quality photos too.

Rating gaming laptop MSI GE73VR Raider: Comprehensive upgrade, high price but reasonable

https://trangcongnghe.com/danh-gia-...-nang-cap-toan-dien-gia-cao-nhung-hop-ly.html

 

At the end of the day you are getting 2kg laptop with full keyboard num pad.

Reasonable heat numbers and can be modified, a 120hz screen, 1070gtx.

you can still gaming even in the toilet

saw that article on tomshardware it's rubbish comparing 17.3-inch laptop with 15 and alot of ****ty comparing.

can't wait to recive mine HIDevolution 4 more days left.

 

Do keep us posted. Until I can buy it myself, I am satiating my appetite through the user reviews here!

 

Okay. So I finally got a GE73VR in and so far its been...interesting.

For context, I'm coming from a MacBook Pro, after trying the GS63VR, GS73VR and Razer Blade with disappointing results. I wont go into thermals and benchmarks YET as I'm still testing out stuff but I want to look at the laptop from a usability standpoint.

Design is OK. Not as "good looking" as the GS63 and not as ugly as some others. I don't love it but it doesn't bother me much. The aluminum surface is a fingerprint magnet though. I don't like the plastic stoppers on the bezel but I understand they have to be there. I just think they cheapen the design.

Screen is...slightly disappointing. I got the 120hz TN panel and all the reviews and comments said it was "close to IPS quality" and "viewing angles are not like old TN panels". Sure, horizontal viewing angles are quite good, but vertical ones are not, which means that even when looking at the screen from dead center, solid color backgrounds will look like they're a gradient, brighter at the bottom and darker at the top. There is a bit of color bleeding on text when scrolling on darkish backgrounds and I can see some very slight interlacing on some colors only. I know I might be getting super picky, but coming from an MBP its quite a change. The 4K panel on the GS73VR was also very good, so if I keep this I might try to replace the panel later on. Gaming on 120hz is a dream though. There is also the chance that the GE63 has a better screen.

Speakers are "okay". Yes, they're loud and yes they're a million times better than the ones on the GS63, but since they fire downward through the chasis there is a slight metallic echo to them and even playing with the nahimic driver I can't quite get rid of it. Disabling nahimic makes them sound worse. Again, I'm coming from a MacBook Pro which has some of the most amazing laptop speakers I've ever heard, so I'm a bit biased. They're not bad, but I guess I was expecting a bit better after all the hype.

Noise is good. Activating cooler booster makes it go insane, but in Auto I can play PUBG and not be bothered much by it. I would compare it to the noise the GS73VR makes, but in a less whiny tone. I am happy with this part considering it has a 1070 inside. In terms of temps I was getting mid-80s on the CPU and high-70s on the GPU while playing PUBG. I'll do more tests.

Overall I'm still deciding what to do. On one hand I'm kind of regretting not going for an AW17 R4 with the QHD screen. Sure, viewing angles would probably be worse as well as colors (I do 3D/Video work) but at least the QHD resolution would make up for the issues or I could go for the 4k. Speakers on that are also forward firing so they should sound better. On the other hand the soft touch on the AWs gets ugly with time, the trackpad is smaller and it has its own set of thermal problems (although 7700hq+1070 less so). I'm going to keep this for the weekend and decide later.

Don't get me wrong, this is a pretty damn nice machine, but I'm spoiled from the perceived quality of the MBP (I've been a long time Apple user) so every time I decide to switch to a PC laptop I get super picky with everything. It has been a nightmare finding a PC laptop that checks all the boxes.

 

Only if the MBP checked the most important box of all. An actual GPU that can push demanding games at good frame rates. I also heard the thermals on the MBP aren't good at all.


Let us know what your thermals are after an undervolt. Just undervolting the CPU should also lower the GPU Temps.

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The issue is not the GPU itself, but rather the native OS which is hardly compatible with games. If you go with a MBP, a heavy restriction is made on gaming and CAD work. Editing could get away, but for that you'll need the expensive FCP. For sure, one would say "but but Bootcamp", but that makes the MBP more "crippled" for its insane price. Aside from what's mentioned above, and excluding the fact you can't even (or can hardly) perform upgrades or maintenance, it'a a great machine.

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Speaking of laptops, I just ordered my Raider today!

* Reseller: Rue du Commerce
* Model: MSI GE63VR 7RE-013XFR
* Country: France (Paris)
* Price (before rebate): 1650€
* Price (after rebate): 1499.95€
* Order date: 09/08/2017
* Expected delivery on: 09/14/2017
I'm travelling to Paris for studies on 09/27/2017, which means I'm most definitely finding the laptop sitting on my cousin's home!

Specs:

* Intel core i7-7700HQ
* Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 6GB
* 8GB DDR4 2400Mhz
* 15", 1080p, TN/AHVA, 120Hz 3ms
* 256GB SATA SSD
* 1TB HDD
* No OS
* Stock thermal paste

(RAM and 2nd SSD Upgrades will follow in a few months, as I'm broke AF now xD)

Once put to the test, I'll post the results here!



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It was 1724 for a month. I am pissed I didn't buy one then...

 

Damn. Also, they recently had a GE73vr with a 250gb NVMe upgrade for 1780. I know for a fact it was only on there for the weekend like that because I saw it pop up on Friday and then on Monday it was changed to 1908.

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I've never added ssds. If I were to get this: https://www.amazon.com/GE73VR-Noteb...ie=UTF8&qid=1504895600&sr=8-2&keywords=ge73vr

what would be the best bang for buck ssd arrangement to add for around 400 bucks? keep the 128 ssd which I'm assuming is just m.2 and get a 1 tb samsung? Or get 2 new ssds and throw out the 128 one. Also how would keeping windows work if I throw out the 128 one. Does the comp come with a bootable windows cd? If not then do I have to add windows to the new ssd in the second bay while the 128 one is still in. Sorry if this is really noob but its hard to find exact answers to this.

 

Yea I think I saw that too. The upgrade prices were much less. Is this the 1 tb samsung ssd a good buy? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...=samsung_nvme_1_tb-_-9SIA53D60S8967-_-Product

 

For those who are having a hard time like me deciding between the Raider and Stealth, @Donald@HIDevolution was awesome enough to get me some comparison pictures to help me decide.

 

I seriously almost bought the GS73VR Stealth Pro, but it was just too expensive for me. It would have been an additional +$650 for a similar configuration from the Raider to Stealth Pro.

 

Hey everyone,

I'm seriously thinking about buying the GE73VR with a gtx 1060.

I've had a GS73VR and the fan noise on it was awfull (getting around 62 db on that one). As the GE73VR is nearly one cm taller and has two instead of three fans,I'm thinking this laptop might be more quiet in terms of fan noise.

Can anyone give me a number on how loud the fans get whilst under load / using cooler boost?

This would be very appreciated

Thanks for the help

 

From what I've read, the Stealth fans are more of high pitched than the Raider fans. That being said, any thin and light notebooks with a GTX1060 or higher are going to be relatively loud.

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Does anyone know if GE63/GE73 Raiders have a DAC/headphone amp? How is your experience with headphones anyway?

 

The product page says it has a Sabre ESS HiFi DAC with sampling rate of 24 bit/192 kHz. I briefly used my ATH-M50s and it sounded okay. I don't have any other monitor headphones :/

 

I've had both previous 73s, GS and GT. GS with 1060 was hot and loud. GT with 1070 was stone cold, but huge and heavy. Is GE73 a good middle ground here?
That pricing seems weird: 1050TI costs $1.800, which is a bit too much IMHO, and difference between 1050,16GB and 1070, 32GB is $250....
Asus GL703 costs $600 less.
What you guys think?

 

I still don't own one, so I'm reliant on reviews and user's comments, but you can see in this polish video how its CPU temps goes up to 96°C while doing some game benchmarks (starting at 7:05). That's the only thing that keep me away from buying it right now, honestly.

 

Maybe got a bad one.

From what I've gathered from reviews and user reports, the CPU runs in the low to high 80's stock. With a good paste and an undervolt, it's running anywhere between the high 60's to high 70's.

Here is a review that can be easily translated. Thermals looks great while playing games.

https://trangcongnghe.com/danh-gia-...-nang-cap-toan-dien-gia-cao-nhung-hop-ly.html


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I agree. The pricing is definitely jacked up. They should have a model exactly like the $1899 one with the 1070 for $1599 with the 1060. Instead, they add larger SSD's and more RAM to the 1060 models in order to jack up their price.

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Anyones can see ESS sabre logo above volume control (in Nahimic2 program)?
I try to push my headphone in line out and selected hi fi headphone But notthing to see ESS Sabre logo dac. Help me please.

 

I'm not getting any ASUS because most of their designs are too flashy or bulky for me. MSI has a nice low key appearance without gigantic vents or fins (except GT series lol). Also, though their Strix laptops are pretty sleek and not too flashy, I was worried about cooling because some reviews I saw for older Strix models with same chassis ran hot. And I'm a fan of MSI's build quality in their higher priced machines.

 

MSI GE63VR 7RF Raider-075 w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 and 128GB PCIe NVMe SSD = $1,799...without the SSD = $1,749

MSI GE73VR 7RF Raider-045 w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 and 250GB SATA SSD = $1,899...without the SSD = $1,849

MSI GE73VR 7RE Raider-067 w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 and 2x 512GB SSD - $1,999...without SSDs = $1,849 - Now, this one does not make any sense.

MSI GE73 7RD Raider-008 w/ nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 and 512GB SATA SSD - $1,699...without the SSD = $1,624

ASUS GL703 only comes with nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 so is not really comparable. It also comes with an inferior screen, only 1x M.2 slot, inferior keyboard and audio, plastic case, not brushed aluminum.

 

man, how come on earth GTX 1060 is expensive compared to GTX 1070 LOL.

 

Someone posted that Asus will announce GL703VM with 1060 and 120 screen, sometime this week. I'm sure you guys know about it, but I understand that NDA thing as well)
Im gonna wait and see what's that is all about in therms of pricing.

 

We will have the nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 and nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 versions with just 16GB, 1x 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA III Hard Drive and Windows 10 Home...priced correctly. Probably starting in the 4th Quarter.

 

http://www.provantage.com/msi-ge73vr045~7MSTC03V.htm -- 1070 $1757.00

MSI GE73VR 1070 version with 256gb SSD and 1TB HD, 16GB DDR4. $1757 at time of posting, no tax and cheap or free shipping.

I've ordered from this warehouse in the past with a $2000 GT60 and it was a great experience. They called me up to verify the order same day and it was on my door step the next morning by 10am (cheap overnight AM shipping from them).