MSI GS63VR Stealth Pro Owner's Lounge

Biggest downer for me is the battery , I've decided to go for the gigabyte Aero 14 after much deliberation and selling my gaming rig (gonna build a new one in january)

I value office and work productivity and i need it to last 5+ hours non gaming and it just falls short for me.. such a shame, surely they could have put a bigger battery in this!

 

Yes it is the gs63vr... But no problem of moving the cable to the back... Is in the exhaust but with a distance...

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Thank you... Same panel... Good news... It is what it is

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Is it? Because they have a panel with differing ending numbers that's ips (spb1 if I remember right). It honestly seems like an ips screen to me as well, although I could be wrong.

 

They are all IPS displays.. I find it strange when people say it's not.. When I had the laptop, it looked like the Samsung PLS (IPS) that was on the GS60 which is still an exceptional panel.. Because I had the GS60 for about 4 days and also found it to be a very warm panel in contrast to the LG 17" I have on my current G751.

 

Yeah I do believe ir it is IPS... But really is not as impressive as I would like it... I have another laptop for my GF (lenovo yoga pro) and a HP elitebook for my work ... And I feel that msi should have done a better job on the screen... The laptop is just amazing... But the screen should be amazing as well... And is not....

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Ok that makes sense. I'm not a video editor and most of the screens I've dealt with are normal TN panels, so I can see why you might not be as happy with it as me.

 

Also small update. The laptop will warm up in the back during light gaming, but it's not anything horrible. The keyboard stays cool. Also, before anyone on the blizzard forum says otherwise, it can run WoW at max settings

 

Quick question guys. My audio has been glitching out on me. I'll be playing music or games or videos and it will randomly break up and make these glitchy noises. I've tried troubleshooting the audio and reinstalling the realtek driver. Any ideas?

 

@Diversion i hear that youre considering the GT62VR? Well... Consider me in the same spot as you
The shop im going to buy from has a huge discount on the GT62. And i mean huge.
To explain the difference between what i was going to buy (GS63VR) , and the GT62 now.

GS63VR specs
GTX 1060 6GB
16GB RAM
128 NVMe SSD
1TB HDF

GT62VR
GTX 1070 8GB
32GB RAM
256 NVMe SSD
1TB HDD

And here is the catch. The price is nearly even! now im not sure of what i want... i going to go and check and play with both models myself first. The only thing is, GT62 is heavy and thick... Sometimes i feel like its totally worth it when you look at the specs. And then later ill be feeling like nah too heavy too thick...

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Where did u buy this laptop from. Coz in the US this sku is amazon exclusive and its not available on amazon and they don't know when it will be released.

 

I was going to make the same question.. It shows as not release yet...

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They've been shipping, but because of the people who pre-ordered, there aren't any in general stock yet. Seems like Amazon's only been getting 4 or so at a time.

 

You were going to buy the same one, weren't you?
Did you get it?

 

I've been trying to see one in person, but after trips to 2 bestbuys neither of them had a display unit. I put in a pre-order on amazon last night for the 512gb version since I'm tired of waiting.

 

Something very fishy is going on here in the software, because even my GTX 960m could play quite a few medium to less demanding (older) games at 4k with high settings while recording with shadowplay, and the gtx 960m is basically a little under half of what the gtx 1060 is. I am not one for conspiracy theories, but perhaps more mature drivers will really show what even the mobile variant GPUs are capable of. Again more shaders, ROP, TMU, higher VRAM capacity and much greater bandwidth, not to mention a smaller node process and more efficient design, something doesn't add up here. More than once, I have caught my Core boosting to 2.1ghz sustained while gaming and benchmarking, is this behavior observed by anyone else?

Portal 2 4k max settings


CS:S 4K max settings


RE5 Benchmark 4k


SFIV Benchmark 4k

 

Yep I am considering it based on the accounts of how quiet it is even under full tilt.. Being a machine that I plan to keep for about 1.5 to 2 years I think I'd value the quietness over having a lighter thinner machine and it also has the 1070 which is much much faster than the 1060. I don't think the weight and size will be much of a problem for me. The only thing that is holding me back is there's no 6820hk option and the new Alienwares are coming out and I want to wait and see what the reviews on thermals and prices are like first. So looking like ill be lurking around the forums until the Alienware reviews are out. I already know the MSI price will be much much less than a similarly equipped Alienware 15 but I can get the 6820HK at least in one.

 

^this. For some reason when they're out of stock they'll say preorder available instead of just saying out of stock. I just waited until they said it was in stock (middle of the week I believe) and ordered it.

Although, if I can't fix this cpu spiking issue, I'm going to return it, because it's getting really annoying.

 

What CPU spiking issue do u have?

 

My cpu keeps hitting 100% usage and it causes my whole system to lag. And this isn't from heavy tasks. I can literally just be watching a video on YouTube, or listening to Spotify or a podcast on iTunes and it happens and causes the audio and video to distort for a few seconds.

 

The GT62VR that has a 6820HK and a 4K panel is UK only right now. Unfortunately.

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GS63VR has intake on top, can see clean through the bottom panel


GS73/63VR fan intake (can actually see through the laptop)

Spoiler

 

Sounds like DPC Latency. MSI might need to update a driver.

 

I tried uninstalling the drivers that came preinstalled and updated to the latest drivers from the product websites. I'm down to 50% cpu usage with the majority coming from system. Any ideas on what else I could do?

 

I have the same issue with the unit I'm testing. Pretty sure the GS73VR had the same issue when I first tested it but I did a fresh install right away. Have you tried a fresh install? I might do that tonight and see. It's intermittent though. I haven't had it in gaming yet but it seems to be doing something in the background that I'm unaware of.

 

I'm also having this issue as well. Again, a fresh install will hopefully fix it. I was able to improve it a little by setting the sound to 16 bit 96000Hz quality in sound settings. It still happens in Youtube every once in a while though.

 

I'm a few days away from wrapping up my review on this but I wanted to throw out some caution over the FHD models. The model I have is IPS but it's pretty low quality. I only measured 65% sRGB, which is pretty lousy. If you have any interest in photo editing, this is not the laptop for you.

Panel model is here if you're interested in knowing more: http://www.panelook.com/LP156WF6-SPK1_LG Display_15.6_LCM_overview_27076.html

The good news is the viewing angles are good. I have some backlight bleed in the upper corner which is kind of ugly in dark rooms. In the end, I would not want this screen at all. The screen in the GS60 model was way nicer.

The 4k screen is surely better since they advertise 100% aRGB but you'll have to deal with scaling issues with Photshop(even with CC) and may need to turn the resolution down to 1080p.

 

Do you think you had a bad panel? Dave Lee put up spyder pro 4 results in his review with the 1080p display and found 91% sRGB and 70% adobeRGB.

See 2:17-2:20 here:

 

I doubt it's a bad panel because the specs on the panel even say it's not that great. He must have a different panel model. I'll reach out to him and see.

This one from Best Buy, which has a significantly lower price than anyone else out there. That could be the reason why...

 

I tried the fresh install, and unfortunately it didn't help the issue. I ended up calling U.S. tech support and they haven't heard of anything since it's such a new notebook. They're going to call global HQ and get back to me. I'll let you know what happens.

 

Wow, I didn't even know there was a 6820HK + 4K version overseas. Good to know but sadly the USA probably won't ever see it land here.

Looked it up, at 2299 pounds it would cost us about $3000 USD.. That's crazy expensive!

 

Moving to the GT62VR thread.

 

Welps fam.. Best Buy had stock to order and free 2day shipping.. Went ahead and ordered another in hopes the CPU fan isn't loud and noisy. This is my last shot and if I have to return another 1600+ dollar product this might get me blacklisted from Best Buy lol.. I always get scared when I have to return big purchases because they are quick to blacklist customers from future returns :/

Wish me luck!

If this isn't going to work for me, i'm waiting out for a GT62VR or new 15" Alienware.

 

Good luck, I'm looking at the same options as you and hope my GS63 turns out good as well. The GT62 looks great but I'm just worried it won't look as slick at meetings and work related events...

 

Any idea on when these are going to be regularly instock?

 

Thanks but I actually attempted to cancel the order because my heart isn't in the GS63VR but I missed the 30 min online cancel window so I guess i'll go ahead and try it and see if it's something I can deal with.. I really feel like money is better spent on a GT62VR (for me) because I *highly* value silence/quiet fans.. and G-Sync. I keep forgetting the GS63VR doesn't have it. And I feel like for a little more money I can at least get a 1070 + G-Sync and quiet fans at the cost of weight/thickness.

On the flip side, i'm SO in love with the 3.9lb .69" body of the GS63 it's like as close to a perfect laptop you can get with the immense power they pack in that size. But can I handle the heat blowing out the sides and the noise? Sigh. I'm just afraid i'm going to return this one, and possibly get blacklisted on future returns with BestBuy (I know people who got banned).

 

Stick a 'bro Pony sticker on it, they'll totally miss it's a Gaming, or Apple laptop.

Or, go for a full My Little Pony laptop skin:
http://www.redbubble.com/shop/my+little+pony+laptop-skins



Or, go for a darker 'Bro Pony theme, let'em know you mean business:

 

It's early days for all the newly released laptops, so it's gonna be months before you can just pick up one on a whim, unless you walk in lucky.

You can order from some retailers and they will transfer from other stores, or you can go pick up there.

Have the cash on hand and subscribe or watch the alert sites for stock...

 

Im in the same boat... the only difference is, i dont have to spend more money to get the GT62 as its the same as GS63 (from the shop which im buying)

But totally agree on the last point. Such a slim profile, such power. The downsides are inevitable i guess, heat and noise.... But as for me, i dont think it will be intolerable heat wise, im pretty optimistic. Having read alot of benchmarks and temps, im happy. Yes, it a cool running machine, but it handles internals acceptably.

All in all, its a really good notebook. Got the looks, the performance too. Except for that msi logo...

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If u wanna control the noise... Read this topic... Can be helpful...

http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?threads/795634/



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I thought I saw a video posted here about bloatware causing CPU usage spikes, specifically Norton. If you did a fresh install you probably removed it already but I figured 'd say something.

 

Unfortunately, I did. And MSI isn't getting back to me so I'm guessing they have no idea. If it was an infrequent problem, I'd be cool with it, but it's every few minutes, and when it does it's repeated a bunch within that span. It looks like I'm gonna have to return it, because it's getting to be unbearable.

 

It's rarely a hardware problem that causes these 100% cpu spikes

It's always some background process(s) that are starting on their own, usually a media app indexing videos/images on your drive, or a anti-spyware or anti-virus or even a scheduled Windows system process.

Start up a process viewer, like Windows Task Manager, click on the title of the CPU column 2x to get it showing the highest CPU user at the top, you can also do this for IO in case it's something indexing your system, and leave it running open on the desktop so when you get lag you can click it to see what the offending process is, then you can go into the Performance expansion to get more detail - like where the file is running from (name of the app) and the files it is opening (what it is looking at).

Once you know what the app is you can go into it and change it's settings to disable the function - I disable PowerDVD Media functions - remove each folder that it is indexing and disable the function - just in case an app update starts up the indexing again, removing the folders being indexed stops it cold.

Same for Norton, I turn off the community stuff, scheduled checks, checks on insertion of media - as I do a check once manually, and again on individual additions I make, it doesn't need to check the same files all over again every day. I do that manually once a week or so.

Google can find out more info for you if you don't know anything about the App or Windows service - find the articles on disabling Windows 10 services / settings - Optimizing Windows 10.

And, get O&O Windows 10 Shutup to disable background reports and much of what MS loads Windows 10 with that run in the background:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10071898

And, Ashampoo Anti-Spy is good too. I am sure others can recommend other Windows 10 tools to help.

So, don't throw out the baby with the bath water, keep the laptop and learn how to master the OS and control your software and hardware - it's gotta happen sometime, it might as well happen with a new laptop.

Have fun

 

Thanks for the advice, the problem is I've tried everything you've just said and I'm still getting those issues. The best I've been able to do is lower the CPU load to 50%, but I'm still getting the audio and video distortion, so the main problem I'm having hasn't been solved.

 

Well, you haven't done everything if you're still getting the problem, let's start there

What are the highest % CPU processes when it's using 50% CPU?

 

Fair enough. I've had multiple culprits, but when the spike happens it's usually just one of them overloading. System interrupts has been one (that one seems to have been fixed though, along with system.), service host has been another, and the most recent one is cefcom3(32bit)

 

Service host is a generic access called by other software, open the Performance dialog and select Disk IO and sort by top Read and/or Write and see what files are being opened, then you will have an idea what app or service is doing the deed.

 

I have two questions please:

1. Are the fans quiet while web browsing or watching youtube?

2. How loud are the fans under gaming load? How do they compare to something like the Asus GL502VM (1060)?

3. Does the power cord on the right interfere with your hand when using an external mouse?

4. I can't make up my mind. Which is better (ignoring weight and price) as far as build quality/longevity, screen, speakers, and other key factors -- the GS63VR or the Asus GL502VM (1060)?

Thanks!

 

Answered your questions in the quoted text above.

Also repasted:

1. Are the fans quiet while web browsing or watching youtube?
Fairly quiet.. sometimes the CPU fan spins up to ridiculous amounts for no good reason (especially when using Chrome because it's more a CPU/memory hog).. If you use MSI Dragon software to use Power Save feature it locks the CPU speeds to not go over 1100mhz each core and pretty much results in a super quiet machine, but you'll experience some stuttering due to the low clock speeds.
2. How loud are the fans under gaming load? How do they compare to something like the Asus GL502VM (1060)?
Well these are 40mm/30mm fans, they are a bit higher pitched than you'd probably hope for.. Slightly higher pitched than the GL502 i'd say but both laptops sounded similar under max load. Notebookcheck has a review of the 1070 version of the GL502 and they say it's a screamer under max load at around 50db! Unfortunately they haven't reviewed the GS63 yet, but they do have a GS73 review which I *believe* share the same exact fan setup as the GS63 so I would say 95% of their reports would cover the GS63 as well.
3. Does the power cord on the right interfere with your hand when using an external mouse?
No, since the plug has a 90degree angle, you can turn it out of the way and towards the back.. Not even close to getting in the way of my hand/mouse.
4. I can't make up my mind. Which is better (ignoring weight and price) as far as build quality/longevity, screen, speakers, and other key factors -- the GS63VR or the Asus GL502VM (1060)?
Honestly, I think the MSI is better this round because of it's all metal Magnesium chassis.. It feels MUCH lighter and is way studier... I'm a huge Asus fanboy and i'm using a GS63 right now and liking it more overall. Weird for me because I wanted to stay on team Asus but the GL502 is overly plasticy and cheap feeling.. The only good Asus laptops right now will be the "big boy" models such as the G752s.. but they are too heavy obviously to be portable.

 

Thanks for your reply.

--If anyone has more to add (or disagrees) I'd be curious to hear your thoughts too.

--If I go in the power settings and make the CPU power 90%, will that reduce fan noise?

--Also, any idea when Amazon (and other online stores) will have the GS63 back in stock? I have an AMZ gift card.