MSI GT75 TITAN 8RG-094 Review by Ultra Male

yes it's not sturdy like it was on my GT73. I was going nuts yesterday thinking why is my FPS capped at 30 FPS in 3DMark11, went through all the nVIDIA Settings, closed unnecessary programs, until I realized that I was on battery power. The cord was still connected but I hate to push it in

 

What BIOs is this? And is it needed?

 

If you want the gsync to work you likely need it. To check if that is the case simply open nvidia control panel and check if set up gsync is available. If it's not there you need to update. It is pretty easy though, in fact since my laptop is 100% factory stock I did not have to go back and change any settings either (but you should check either way to be sure).
@Phoenix that really sucks, I thought that if a power jack does not make proper contact it could get hot/burn to death...? It's scary! Do you think there is anything we can do about it?

 

It is definitely needed for the 056 variant as you won't have GSYNC in the nVIDIA Control Panel. The laptop which I have the 094 doesn't have this bug but I updated the BIOS still.

 

Mine came with gsync out of the box, may be I was lucky

 

Well I am really happy with the gt75 laptop now. I never thought I could say that of msi. Still haven't changed anything in bios, first testing out the stock settings to have a good baseline. I might need to get a cpu fan from msi eventually since it's making an annoying noise, but I will try to open it up and make sure its sitting well first (after some extra testing).
The gt75 8rg is nothing short of amazing. I regret not having this laptop to begin with, but tbh now I got it for an amazing price so I am really happy.

Some more AC:Origins gameplay from today, I started a new game to have a good experience playing it and not let the gt72vr stuff ruin it for me.
Min cpu speed was 3886GHz (the msi afterburner overlay is reading way too stable numbers for cpu frequency - any idea how to fix that if it even needs fixing? In reality it fluctuates between 3886 and 3985 or so) and min gpu speed I saw was 1835 I believe. Temps went max slightly over 80 with ambient temp at 22.5 degrees (factory goo does acceptable job). It is definitely a little less loud than me talking and my voice is not very loud so I guess it's ok for me noise-wise after all. I won't post more videos here, but with time I will add some on youtube ^^ it's fun.

 

It's because older os and newer Linux builds runs faster and problem free than win 10

Sent from my iPhone X Papusan edition using Tapatalk

 

I always take time to push a bit on the power connector when I start up the computer. Poor contact can cause failures in the end. And the power connector on MB isn't easy to replace (difficult to obtain).

 

Just came across an interesting bug: when using "office" preset in dragon center, the screen produces very bad green ghosting around black text when scrolling over white background. I was scared for a second there that it was broken damn msi software... but the office preset made it look most like white! Bah time to hunt for another preset.

 

I agree, power cord is not plugged in quite well. yesterday I was using it on my lap and all of a sudden the screen dimmed a little & finally I realized the cord was out & I was on battery

 

@Phoenix - have you done any serious overclocking yet? Maybe you can match these, and then we can shoot for 5.2GHz? (Ran these with my Clevo just for you my younger brother from another mother.)

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12776087

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15515656

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3766000

 

That is insane bro! I will try to overclock in a bit.

What is a good starting point to overclock my GPU?

 

Are you living next to Papusan's house?
19C on CPU means you have much lower ambient temps. 19C on air cooling is insanely impressive.

 

maybe he use an mobile air conditioner

 

Maybe +125 or 150 core clock and +200 on the RAM should work.

On my GT73VR i could run the GPU with +250 Core Clock and 400 for the RAM but it was a 1070

 

Maybe start with the 8950Hk BGA? How much can you increase clocks with the voltage you already run for stock? 2 or 3 bin?

Already a miss match on clock speed. 5.0GHz vs. 4.3GHz ain't 20.8% difference. You lack almost 2 bin


Even worse for Time Spy.

 

Didn't really know which thread to post to but wanted to give a big shout-out to @Phoenix for taking the time to provide his awesome tweaking session. Walking through step by step on what he's doing and why. Heck of a guy for providing such an awesome service! Thank you sir!

 

Thank you very much.

This is the feedback thread:
Review of Phoenix Windows 10 Optimizations

 

Same 2 bin miss match on clock speed from this 8950Hk.

 

Yep, looks like BGA is catching up but honestly they can't match LGA at all, unless Intel decides BGA is more profitable on desktops too.

 

Be you sure... Intel will never go for BGA desktop chips only as long AMD continue push out socketed chips. Would be the same as shoot themself in the head with a Cannon Or better a Missile!! I'm quite sure Intel won't follow Azor and Dell's prefered way to do things

 

I thought you will shoot me. If Phoenix was living in Norway, he can match yours and @Mr. Fox 's clk freq's. After benching successfully and beating every records, the BGA will be worn down and he will get GT77VR next year.

 

Damn Fox, no you didn't just come here to flex that 3 year old system's LGA muscle...

 

Hahaa. Any new mods for Mr. Fox to flex LGA muscle further to 6GHz?

 

Nope we seem to have hit a wall at 5.5Ghz in LGA land...


To stay OnTopic:

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/15431710

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3747098


https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12774718

 

Yeah, nothing beat 3 year old system's quality LGA systems and the Amazing Prema

The BGA chips run below 70C and then should give about correct physics scores vs. LGA. Not throw scores like 2 bin below.

See my post to Vasudev.

Edit... Almost as +25% more cores.

 

I just noticed the temps... 16C on cpu and 18C on gpu? Aren't you cold? When the temp in my house goes below 20 I start to freeze to death and end up putting on a jacket and thick socks! My ideal room temp so I am comfy is at least 25 degrees, I swear if my bf did not want to pay so much for heating we would have that all year round. We made a compromise and it's on 21 min all year round now... Still cold. I mean, what is your room temperature, like 10 degrees?

 

Thanks, bru. You can do +500 on memory with no issues. I have not seen a notebook 1080 (yet) that won't handle that.

Use MSI Afterburner's voltage curve tool. Max out the voltage. It won't go any higher than about 1.050V (give or take 10-15mV). Give it +115 on core and see if it passes a benchmark without a TDR or lockup. About +115-125 (2100MHz) on core is more or less the most I have seen any notebook or desktop 1080 capable of holding without hardware and firmware modding, and the few that can usually won't hold the core clock that high for very long because of their cancerous approach to things at the Green Goblin's dungeon.

Exactly. That's how I have been benching laptops for years now. Works fantastically. I live in the Phoenix area, so I cannot take advantage of cold weather (no such thing... EVER) like I used to in the PACNW. Mother nature works equally well during the winter. I think I might even start using it to augment my dual 360MM radiator cooling in the desktop.

He is a truly awesome brother, isn't he. Great guy.

Sort of. We thought it would be good to have a point of reference to see how the new hexacore BGA CPU can fare against an 8700K. Some companies that stand to make money off of their marketing lies would have us to believe it's equal to it, so that needs to be proven. (No room for liars at the table... need to pull their shorts down around their ankles in front of the girls playing volley ball.) We already know how belly button GTX 1080 GPUs run. Not much anyone can do with the retarded cookie cutter GPU crap any more unless they want to break out their soldering iron and undo some of the messes created by the NVIDIOTS.

 

Then you & ur bf should come to my place where temps are between 28-40C and you'd would melt like wax.
Phoenix: Where are ur benchmarks? wprime32m and 1024m are preferred for me. Can you beat a 7700K ?

 

My Zotac 1080 can't even do 475 on the memory before crashing.

Sad

Never buy zotac, advertise as overclocking card and give you the worst bins.

 

Really? Dang, they should start selling laptops. They'd make a killing. All they have to get right is the marketing, none of the other stuff is important.

 

Atm we have 25 till 30°. At the evening we get around 12-16° outside.
We have 20-22° room temperature...
Nice and cool

 

if you look at gamersnexus youtube, they have reviewed the zotac cards (highest hiearchy/most expensive) models, not very positive reviews

 

People that purchase products with BGA CPUs are not typically overclocking enthusiasts. Most are either ordinary end users or gamers that run their stuff stock or with a modest overclock.

Looks like the official world record for i9-8950HK is 5.2GHz (almost 5.3), so maybe @Phoenix can set a new record and beat that... http://hwbot.org/submission/3838475_warboy_cpu_frequency_core_i9_8950hk_5284.47_mhz

8700K official world record is 7.4GHz http://hwbot.org/submission/3670813_ren_kei_yang_cpu_frequency_core_i7_8700k_7405.12_mhz

My personal best is 5.6GHz (27th place in the HWBOT Hall of Fame) http://hwbot.org/submission/3839184_mr._fox_cpu_frequency_core_i7_8700k_5624.58_mhz

 

@Phoenix Hi it's embarrassing but I really need some help please. You are still on the killer card right? The 1550? I have this weird issue where my wifi will essentially drop connection to 100KB or less and stay that way till I disconnect and reconnect to the network again (which imo points to windows or drivers issue - I tried reinstalling drivers already and got rid of the killer control center, did not help). Idk if that would happen on cable since it does not reach to my desk, but I guess I could move to the other room for testing >.>. Do you have any idea what could be causing that or how do I troubleshoot this (it happens randomly)?

 

A lot of things to try in this thread.

 

What driver version are you using?

Don't forget this card has very weak signal, see the first posts in this thread:
Killer Wireless-AC 1550 Review

I am using this driver (INF only): Intel WLAN Driver v20.50.0.4

 

I just realized I am on an older driver... also for some reason some settings were off in the advanced tab. Going through that entire thread now and will be updating the drivers in a bit.
PS. atm it's the 20.30.1.2

 

I didn't touch any settings, all default

Killer 1550/Intel WLAN Driver v20.50.0.0/ BlueTooth v20.40.0

 

I just downloaded that exact file like 5 mins ago but thank you I hope it fixes the issue. I noticed the killernetworking.com only has the older drivers as "driver only" version which I installed but the newer ones in their package - seems pretty weird, they should totally update it.

 

@Killer_Networking your promise to give us updated drivers has not been kept. Killer Networking didn't update the drivers even once even after my communication with your manager and him promising to release a driver which fixes the connection issues with the Killer 1550 ASAP. Intel has since then released 2 driver updates, one was 20.40.0 and now 20.50.0.4 and Killer is still using the ancient drivers. Very bad customer support.

This is the last time I am buying a Killer product and will never recommend buying your products anywhere

 

So remember how my gpu was downclocking to 139mhz and games stuttered badly? It' the new drivers. They don' work for me. 390.94 drivers from msi website:all is good. Once I install new 397 drivers anything is pretty unplayable. Idk why, maybe dragon center interference or something? Since I have that stuff on.

 

This happened to me on my MSI desktop as well. Bad stuttering to the point that I thought my machine was going to crash. Ran DDU to whipe it out, went back to the previous driver, all is fine now.

 

Already thought I was the only one and my laptop was faulty after all since Phoenix runs the new driver and does not have issues with it.

 

I seen the problem while playing PUBG. It would drop from 130-144 fps to 60 fps immediately and start stuttering bad. It only happens in certain areas of the map (Smaller houses). I could run around outside no problem at all. Probably mixture of bad game optimization and bad driver.

But let's not derail Phoenixs thread with talk about bad Ngreedia drivers. I posted over on the Gaming GPU board under that particular driver thread.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-geforce-driver-v397-64.816699/page-2

 

I have a 66% of correct working usage of my GPU with nvidia drivers. It's annoying. I only update now if I absolutely must. Otherwise its a gamble between non proper clocks, fullscreen not working, or another issue.

 

Our old friend @BatBoy used to always say that when it comes to drivers, the latest often ain't the greatest. That is true and you are very wise to not update drivers just because there is a newer one available. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is good advice here.

 

So what's the best driver as of now? I got a few more 3DMarks out of the latest ones but maybe it's just margin of error

 

Remember, I don't play games so I'm not the best person to give advice about these issues but i love to hear feedback about it.

 

I am sorry about hijacking the thread with constant questions. But I just got back to the laptop on login screen, checked event viewer and sure enough: kernel power error. I tried hunting for other events that preceded the reboot and the only thing I found is "svchost (4000,G,98) The beta feature EseDiskFlushConsistency is enabled in ESENT due to the beta site mode settings 0x800000" which ran about 10 seconds before the reboot. Do you think I have a hardware issue or that there is something wrong in windows? I always get the weirdest stuff, I should not own any electronics.

PS. dump file points to nvidia drivers (at idle: driver power state failure... testing now after ddu reinstall)