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mine maxes out at 39 while becnhing in cinebench

 

@sush33king change the turbo limits in fivr to 41 on 6 every core values and do that in bios too.

 

woooo....xciting... ok.. where in bios? Changing in TS alone is not doing it.

 

Probably in the menu somewhere before you get into power management try searching for something turbo....
Can't give exact name now as i'm running msi battery calibration software now.
Then run Cinebench a bunch of times.

 

It does't work on mine, also in the "current turbo settings" section of the bios, the modified values do not get applied. It shows the old turbo values

 

I'll send my values in an hour or two.

 

I thought the i7 8750H is multiplier locked, right? Basically you can't OC it above 3.9Ghz @ 6 cores. The 8850H has unlocked multiplier while the i9 has unlocked power limit.

 

What's excatly the battery calibration software does?

 

i heard the same... but just had to try it... changing the values to 41 don't stick.

 

I'm also trying it for the first time
When i bought the wear levels was 6%
As my battery wear levels were high in hwmonitor ≈22%
But sometimes it reduced to 15%
So thought of trying to solve that by that software hope it works.
Well there could be glitch too.

 

woha.... mine is at 1%

 

Don't stick as in?
It doesn't remain above 4ghz all the time?(it's the same for me then)
But sometimes it runs above 4.05ghz(for somesseconds or so)
In Cinebench

 

What's your projected battery time at 100% battery, battery saver on, brightness 0% and in dragon center eco mode + fans at basic, speed-slowest
Mine's 5.5hrs without throttlestop

 

My bios is not saving it, I see in the "current turbo settings" sections that the default values still remain even after changing it to 41 etc. and then saving it.

 

I dont think these values are accurate anyways

 

In advanced menu, cpu power management control
View/config. Turbo option
Then change them to 41, save
Try this.
Mine works that way.

 

Tried it already... it doesn't work. What does your "Current Turbo Settings" window show?

 

Your current turbo settings is still at default values, they are not set to your custom configured values

 

Yeah got it.

 

When idle, and not in benching mode, i.e. 1-2 cores running, it will run at 41.

 

Will this work?

 

Any guess to why it is happening?
i reset the imon values in the bios for an hour or so but now it is on flankentyne's values
my assumption- it may be due to the fact that my battery was at 70% and charging.

 

throttling vanished after battery was above 80%

 

My battery level never goes below 98 percent when on AC and BIOS settings is at normal charging.

 

Isn't there an overclocking menu too?
Will it help in something?

Played far cry 5 for 2 hrs max temp. 84° at a single thread and least max 79° at another thread
Max gpu 76°
After playing tried cinebench got maximum score of 1259.(it increased after playing )
Epp setting was at zero whole time.
Before under volting max. Temp was 96°.
Cpu, cache offsets -210
I/o -85
Gpu, agent -105

In tpl max turbo, pp0 time limit at 40s and
Tpl power long at 56
Power short at 70

 

No crashes.
Played Cinebench and
Unigine super position(at 4k optimised) simultaneously 2-3 times.

 

And after calibration
Battery wear level reduced to 4%

 

@Gursimran82956 Great!

 

Try Warframe on dual monitor. That one got me.

 

I don't have another monitor.
Well tv can be used but will have to buy a hdmi cable for that.

 

That 84° was when laptop was kept on table without any styrofoam kept beneath it.

 

"In tpl max turbo, pp0 time limit at 40s and
Tpl power long at 56
Power short at 70"

I dont think these settings get applied. You can confirm this by checking it in hwinfo.
Long and Short settings has limitations set by firmware. However you can change these settings in the bios and it will be applied.

 

@sush33king we can enable the overclocking setting in bios
Can it be used to increase the multiplier?

 

Turbos are locked. Intel sells unlocked versions which are more expensive.

 

It's not just that. It's also the fact that we have to do all sorts of tweaking and tuning to get the CPU to run as advertises, i.e. 6 cores @ 3.9GHz. Intel rates the i7 at 45W, and yet it needs about 60-70W to maintain full turbo, which can only happen because MSI is one of a few OEMs that lets us access to advanced BIOS setting.

 

Great results. 80C max is amazing. That Asus GL504 gets 95C while gaming in a recent review I saw (granted that was without undervolting)

 

MSI Afterburner reads CPU freqs is different from ThrottleStop (which is more correct). During Aida64 stress, Afterburner shown clocks 3.8-3.9GHz with small fluctuation, while TS show ~3.7GHz; all was during an hour of stability test. CPU temp gets 95C after 3 mins, hence thermal throttled and clocked as mentioned. GPU temps stablized at 72C with +200/+600 OC.

P/s: I still got system crashes after exiting Aida64. Almost certain it is because of the sudden drop in power cuz everything is stable during 1 hour stress test, yet system freezed when I clicked exit even only after 5 mins in. I didn't get this problem before unlocking PL in BIOS, so that could be the cause.

 

@sush33king
tried on my 1080p tv(duplicate)
played watch dogs 2 average fps 52
orignally it was 65.
Btw
Watchdogs 2 crashes when any event reminder(of the game) comes on the screen while playing normally.
When playing normally there's no glitch/crash whatsoever

 

How about you try increase the undervolt a bit. Your temps is well below 90 and crash while gaming isn't ideal at all.

 

I also do the soft reboot test... multiple times, quickly rebooting w/o the proper exiting of on going tasks (intensive ones). Note that i always include my ext monitor in these tests as i am planning to have 2. System behaves differently with an ext monitor as it directly influences the power draw curve.

Soft reboot is different from hard reboot as in a soft reboot, ThrottleStop's settings are maintained.

I used to experience when the volts were too low or inappropriate, soft rebooting hangs my laptop. I guess this is related to the sudden drop in volts as well.

Based on our experiences, we should intentionally include tests that examines both the upper end of the power draw curve (i can assume we have done this exhaustively) as well as the lower end, especially the sudden quick and substantial changes that ends up in the exteme ends of these power demand spectrums.

 

Great point. So is there any way so solve this? Should I increase the undervolt? Or is there a way to prevent this sudden dropin voltage?

 

I am thinking about using profiles in TS to have diff settings for diff situations, some profiles have diff offset than others, using them accordingly to suit my needs. If you need to game, just use the one that gives you the best temps for the long hours. As long as it doesn't crash for that scenario... then no worries.

 

Also, i am uncomfortable when my temps hit the 90C mark, which happens if bench loops are done, so i resorted to setting my thermal limit to 88C. I feel more secure this way. Also, this way, the freqs drops less if necessary, just 100 to 300 mhz - cinebench loops with no cooler boost.

In AIDA, it progressively dropped over time to 3200mhz, ending up at low 80'sC. I experience no crashing in aida. I got a cracked version . It came with a javascript bitcoin miner too, had to remove it from the startup and then did a malwarebytes scan to make sure everything is ok.

I find that the curves are much tighter this way compared to reliance on PL throttles, balancing closely between temp expectations and max possible freq.

 

Yeah, I'll try tuning down the thermal limit to see how it goes. It's in the BIOS settings right? I currently have 3 different preset in TS, one for Gaming, 1 for CAD design and 1 for when I using bettery.

 

In the BIOS Advance->Cpu Thermal Config-> ? activation offset

Its default value is 5, thats the limit offset from 100C. Change that value to you preference to alter the thermal limit

 

You shld see the new TL after "PROCHOT"